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Should the US Continue Off Shore Drilling Despite The Spill?

Started by Palehorse, May 04, 2010, 01:38:32 PM

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Palehorse

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me

And that bill passed today....what a coincidence... :wink:
Quote from: Palehorse on July 15, 2010, 05:02:47 PM
It is stopped. . . for the time being. . .
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Palehorse

The horse has left the state, but hey, at least we finally got the barn door closed!  :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:
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Any "point" made by one that lacks credibility, is only as useful as toilet paper; and serves the same purpose. ~ Palehorse 4/22/2017

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LOsborne

Did y'all see this?

http://www.dailyfinance.com/article//bps-altered-photo-distorts-spill-center/1174728/?cid=11&flv=1

OOPS!

Palehorse

Quote from: LOsborne on July 21, 2010, 06:39:55 PM
Did y'all see this?

http://www.dailyfinance.com/article//bps-altered-photo-distorts-spill-center/1174728/?cid=11&flv=1

OOPS!

Yeah. . . not surprising though. . . :mad: :mad: :mad:

I hear Tony the Liar is getting ready to officially resign his position too. . .
R.I.P. - followsthewolf - You are MISSED! 4/17/2013

That which fails to kill me. . .should run!

Any "point" made by one that lacks credibility, is only as useful as toilet paper; and serves the same purpose. ~ Palehorse 4/22/2017

May you find charity when it is needed, and the ability to extend it when it is not. ~Palehorse 7/4/2012

To the last, I grapple with thee; From Hell's heart, I stab at thee; For hate's sake, I spit my last breath at thee.~Herman Melville

The Troll

Quote from: Palehorse on July 21, 2010, 06:47:48 PM
Yeah. . . not surprising though. . . :mad: :mad: :mad:

I hear Tony the Liar is getting ready to officially resign his position too. . .

  I wonder what his Golden Parachute is worth.  I'll bet it is worth several Million Pounds.

Henry Hawk

IF The Gulf Was A Football Stadium...

     If the Gulf of Mexico - the 7th largest body of water in the world, containing approximately 660 quadrillion gallons of water (that's 660 with 15 zeros) - was represented by Cowboys Stadium in Dallas - the largest domed stadium in the world - how would the spill stack up?

In this example, the amount of oil spilled - if the Gulf of Mexico was the size of Cowboys Stadium - would be about the size of a 24 ounce can of beer.

Cowboys stadium has an internal volume of approximately 104 million cubic feet, compared to the just over 50 cubic inches of volume in a 24-ounce can.

Just like the can, the spilled oil represents only .00000002788% of the liquid volume present in the Gulf of Mexico, although as the oil is dispersed, the amount of water affected becomes substantially greater.


   

http://www.cnbc.com/id/38294088/What_Does_184_Million_Gallons_of_Oil_Look_Like?slide=9

Wed Jul 21, 2010
WASHINGTON (AFP)

Some 750 boats drafted in to scoop up oil from the Gulf of Mexico are having "trouble" finding any crude in the sea, a top US official said Wednesday, almost a week after a busted well was capped.

"We are starting to have trouble finding oil," US pointman [sic] Admiral Thad Allen, who is in charge of handling the government's response, told reporters.
The boats, which have been drafted in to skim oil off the surface of the Gulf, are "really having to search for the oil in some cases" around the area of the capped well, he added.
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Bo D

Quote from: Henry Hawk on July 22, 2010, 12:38:10 PM
IF The Gulf Was A Football Stadium...

That isn't a fair representation at all! You're comparing volume. Try comparing surface area.

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Henry Hawk

Quote from: Olias on July 22, 2010, 12:52:39 PM
That isn't a fair representation at all! You're comparing volume. Try comparing surface area.

http://www.ifitwasmyhome.com/

but it is all not on the surface....even Admiral Thad Allen says they are starting to have trouble finding oil....

look, I am in no way tring to make light of this issue, I just find this news very interesting.
"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."
Ecclesiastes 10:2 - It all makes sense to me now...


"The future ain't what it used to be."– Yogi Berra

"Square roots are rarely found on any plant." FTW

The Troll

Quote from: Henry Hawk on July 22, 2010, 01:29:40 PM
but it is all not on the surface....even Admiral Thad Allen says they are starting to have trouble finding oil....

look, I am in no way tring to make light of this issue, I just find this news very interesting.

  The amount of oil to the volume of the Gulf really is no way to compare the damage.  The main reason you don't see any oil on top is BP is not stupid.   They put dispersant's in and made is sink so the public wouldn't see it.  In my opinion is stupid.  Now it can't be collected.

  But if you put that oil a few molecules thick (oil sheen) on the surface you cut of the oxygen transfer.  Put an oil sheen on fish, shrimp, oysters and other sealife gills it will die.  If you had 1/8 of a spoolfull of crude oil forced into you lungs, you probably would die.

  Also the location of that oil was another problem.  Wind and currents push that oil into the marshes and beaches.  If that oil spill was out in the middle of the pacific ocean, hardly no damaged would have been done.   So lyers figure and those figures lie.

Palehorse

I speculate here, but I am thinking that "Bonnie" is going to find all that lost oil for us and toss it onshore!  :rant: :rant: :rant:
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Palehorse

(CNN) -- My mother, Ms. Nippy Carville, was a woman of many talents. Two in particular stand out. She was a superb cook (the author of a successful cookbook), and she was an excellent bridge player.
She always cautioned me that it was important that one "review the bidding" before the play. Now that it's becoming apparent that the efforts to cap the well at Deepwater Horizon are going to be successful, we should pause and pay homage to Ms. Nippy's advice by reviewing the bidding.
Any fair assessment would have to conclude that in spite of some people's criticism of the early response, (and by "some people" I mean Ms. Nippy's firstborn son James), one also must give credit to a much improved and vigorous response to the environmental catastrophe in the Gulf.
So, let's review the bidding: First, the decision to keep the unflappable retired Coast Guard Adm. Thad Allen in place as national incident commander, in spite of considerable opposition from some local politicians, has proven to be wise.
Second, when Attorney General Eric Holder announced a criminal investigation into the BP disaster, it was a demonstration that the Obama administration meant business in dealing with this catastrophe.
Third, the establishment of the $20 billion restitution fund administered by Ken Feinberg was the ultimate statement of the seriousness with which this situation was being addressed by the administration.
Fourth, people who have deep knowledge of the events in the Gulf give substantial credit to Energy Secretary Steven Chu and other experts from government labs who were brought in to assist with the successful capping of the well.
We in the Gulf region, in particular those of us in Louisiana, have a long way to go. We need our government to remain vigilant in addressing this. We need a lot of research into the science of the effects of the spill. And in the words of Interior Secretary Ken Salazar, we need to continue to have the heel of our boot on the neck of BP.
All of us in the region need to stay vigilant and aggressive in being sure that the inevitable "It's time to move on" mentality does not set in. Trust me. The last thing we need to do is move on until our precious coastline is both restored and renewed.
I don't know many people -- and no Democrats -- who were as tough on the Obama administration as I was when the oil started gushing.
But for now I'll take Mississippi governor -- and chairman of the Republican Governors' Association -- Haley Barbour saying President Obama has "done more right than wrong." In fact, I'll up Gov. Barbour's bid one and say that as of late, President Obama has done a lot more right than wrong.


http://www.cnn.com/2010/OPINION/08/05/carville.obama.bp/index.html?hpt=T1

An opinion piece I can agree with!  :yes:
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Any "point" made by one that lacks credibility, is only as useful as toilet paper; and serves the same purpose. ~ Palehorse 4/22/2017

May you find charity when it is needed, and the ability to extend it when it is not. ~Palehorse 7/4/2012

To the last, I grapple with thee; From Hell's heart, I stab at thee; For hate's sake, I spit my last breath at thee.~Herman Melville

The Troll



  Hey BP, what do you get when you pump in cement into the top of a pipe and pump in cement into the bottom of the same pipe?

                          Dumbass, you get a large air bubble in the center of the pipe line.

  You say you sealed it forever, we'll see.  Another question, if you complete the releif wells are you going to pump that oil now or waite until thing cool down and then pump.  What if the new wells blow out.  Hummmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.

Palehorse

I believe they would have to obtain a permit to pump that oil from the relief wells. . . and no one is getting one until they come up with a validated remediation plan for catastrophic failures!!!
R.I.P. - followsthewolf - You are MISSED! 4/17/2013

That which fails to kill me. . .should run!

Any "point" made by one that lacks credibility, is only as useful as toilet paper; and serves the same purpose. ~ Palehorse 4/22/2017

May you find charity when it is needed, and the ability to extend it when it is not. ~Palehorse 7/4/2012

To the last, I grapple with thee; From Hell's heart, I stab at thee; For hate's sake, I spit my last breath at thee.~Herman Melville

me

Quote from: Palehorse on August 06, 2010, 09:48:38 AM
I believe they would have to obtain a permit to pump that oil from the relief wells. . . and no one is getting one until they come up with a validated remediation plan for catastrophic failures!!!
Would they look at it as necessary since they are relief wells though?  You know, if we don't pump it will blow again type of song and dance.  Could it possibly blow again if they don't pump the relief wells?
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