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Should the US Continue Off Shore Drilling Despite The Spill?

Started by Palehorse, May 04, 2010, 01:38:32 PM

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Palehorse

Quote from: Anne on June 26, 2010, 05:13:28 PM
Right now it looks like the storm isn't going to affect them.

I'm sorry. . . when did you get your degree in meteorology and what about it makes you able to predict the path of this storm when no one else seems to be able to?  :rolleyes:
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Anne

"A discontented man will find no easy chair." Ben Franklin

Palehorse

R.I.P. - followsthewolf - You are MISSED! 4/17/2013

That which fails to kill me. . .should run!

Any "point" made by one that lacks credibility, is only as useful as toilet paper; and serves the same purpose. ~ Palehorse 4/22/2017

May you find charity when it is needed, and the ability to extend it when it is not. ~Palehorse 7/4/2012

To the last, I grapple with thee; From Hell's heart, I stab at thee; For hate's sake, I spit my last breath at thee.~Herman Melville

Anne

So now the weather channel isn't a worth watching? What do you watch for weather?
"A discontented man will find no easy chair." Ben Franklin

Palehorse

This is one of my favorite songs by BJ; and it contains a taste of what our Gulf Shore fishermen and shrimpers are now living:

http://www.youtube.com/v/LVlDSzbrH5M
R.I.P. - followsthewolf - You are MISSED! 4/17/2013

That which fails to kill me. . .should run!

Any "point" made by one that lacks credibility, is only as useful as toilet paper; and serves the same purpose. ~ Palehorse 4/22/2017

May you find charity when it is needed, and the ability to extend it when it is not. ~Palehorse 7/4/2012

To the last, I grapple with thee; From Hell's heart, I stab at thee; For hate's sake, I spit my last breath at thee.~Herman Melville

Doc

Quote from: The Troll on June 23, 2010, 08:25:36 PM
  Of all of the quack and jokers we have here in the Unknown Zone, Doc is right at the top.  So full of religious, Republican :bs:

Since the onset of the Spill their have been no rational decisions made by the Administration. Never convened a panel of experts with the knowledge to give sound advise. Has stated BP is running the show their the only ones that know how Get serious this isnt Community Organizing theirs more than 1 way and their is more than 1 opinion.

Failure to bring these experts in has added to the time we are over 60 days with no end in sight. The president is the CEO maybe its your turn to go before congress and explain why you and your staff are not able to come together and deal with Emergencies.

Explain why though offered help from countries who have dealt with thse situations that you didnt waiver the Jones act. Give a logical reason if you can pull it out. Were any of thse countries asked for advice. You might be book smart but your mechanicaly chalenged. Dont call a professor to fix your Air condtiong do you. At time Common sense is more important than a dgree this is one of those times.

The commision to investigate the tradgedy has no one who has any working knowledge of the system give me a break. Quit bragging about the Scientist with the Peace Prize we know how hard they are to come by.

Obama, a pretty good speaker while reading from a teleprompter -- impresses not as a uniter of all U.S. citizens --- but as a leader of a gang (like Acorn), who cares little about the intelligence of average citizens -- who are too dumb to understand his lofty ideas -- hoping that the stupid U.S. citizens will someday worship his superior intellect and simply FOLLOW his majesty.

God help us all.

Henry Hawk

Quote from: Palehorse on June 26, 2010, 05:40:27 PM
I'm sorry. . . when did you get your degree in meteorology and what about it makes you able to predict the path of this storm when no one else seems to be able to?  :rolleyes:

wasn't YOU making a prediction also?...I heard the same thing, BY meteorologists, that this storm brewing does not indicate any problems in the gulf, at this time.
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Sandy Eggo

Quote from: Henry Hawk on June 27, 2010, 10:45:34 AM
wasn't YOU making a prediction also?...I heard the same thing, BY meteorologists, that this storm brewing does not indicate any problems in the gulf, at this time.

At the time that he posted that, BP was sending workers home and preparing for the storm. Thankfully conditions changed since then, but it's only a matter of time in hurricane season. 
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The Troll

Quote from: Doc on June 27, 2010, 09:58:12 AM
Since the onset of the Spill their have been no rational decisions made by the Administration. Never convened a panel of experts with the knowledge to give sound advise. Has stated BP is running the show their the only ones that know how Get serious this isnt Community Organizing theirs more than 1 way and their is more than 1 opinion.

Failure to bring these experts in has added to the time we are over 60 days with no end in sight. The president is the CEO maybe its your turn to go before congress and explain why you and your staff are not able to come together and deal with Emergencies.

Explain why though offered help from countries who have dealt with thse situations that you didnt waiver the Jones act. Give a logical reason if you can pull it out. Were any of thse countries asked for advice. You might be book smart but your mechanicaly chalenged. Dont call a professor to fix your Air condtiong do you. At time Common sense is more important than a dgree this is one of those times.

The commision to investigate the tradgedy has no one who has any working knowledge of the system give me a break. Quit bragging about the Scientist with the Peace Prize we know how hard they are to come by.

Obama, a pretty good speaker while reading from a teleprompter -- impresses not as a uniter of all U.S. citizens --- but as a leader of a gang (like Acorn), who cares little about the intelligence of average citizens -- who are too dumb to understand his lofty ideas -- hoping that the stupid U.S. citizens will someday worship his superior intellect and simply FOLLOW his majesty.

God help us all.

  Doc, do you really know what the Jones Act of 1920 is.  I don't think you got the slightest idea.  I think you're parroting the talking points of the Republican Party.

  The Jones Act is to protect the American shipping industries from being taken over by foriegn shipping companies.  The Republicans are working on repealing it right now.  All of our manufacturing, now our shipping is going over seas.  What a damn bunch of rats these Republicans are.

  The Jones Act exempts oil spills.  #55113 Jones Act.  Use of foreign documented oil spill response vessels, Notwithstanding any other provision of law, an oil spill response vessel documented under the law of a foreign country a may operate in waters of the United States on a emergency and temporary basis, for the purpose of recovering, transporting and unloading in a United States port discharged as a result of an oil spill in or near those waters.

  Do you have an unknown source in Washington for all of you information.  If you do, they lying to you.

  Obama and his team have talked to all of the other oil companies Exxon, Shell and Texaco and all kinds of oil well expert, and engineers overseas and here.  "Never convened a panel of experts with the knowledge to give sound advise".  You're talking out of your ass.  You're talking your :bs: and the Republican "Talking Points".  I was listening to Fox News when they came out with the same :bs: your saying.  Fox News, Fox new, Rush Limbaugh and the other Republican Bull Shitters.

  It is absolutely amazing how you Republicans can take out of contex, misspeak and just flat lie about everthing.  Lying just like BP, when they wrote down that they could handle any oil spill.

Anne

Quote from: Sandy Eggo on June 27, 2010, 11:07:15 AM
At the time that he posted that, BP was sending workers home and preparing for the storm. Thankfully conditions changed since then, but it's only a matter of time in hurricane season.

Goodness, can't anyone take a little good news without throwing doom and gloom around.
"A discontented man will find no easy chair." Ben Franklin

Henry Hawk

The ONE and ONLY reason WHY Obama has not waived the Jones act is because of his cozy  relationship with labor unions...it needs to be waived as did Bush during Katrina, for the purposes of allowing foreign ships to get in here and help us clean up this spill.......the labor unions are wanting to capitalize themselves during a catastrophe....and that is low........we need the worlds help right now, this is potenially the biggest ecological and possibly very massive economical event to in modern lifetimes in the US.

that my buddy Troll, is a fact. ;)

there is no logical reason why we cannot have some of the help that has been offered here to assist this mess....NONE!!.....there are political motives involved, that is the only reason why, and that is about as unpatriotic as it gets.....we should have every ship know available that has skimming powers on its way here, or already here....working....it sickens me the more I think about why they are NOT here.
"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."
Ecclesiastes 10:2 - It all makes sense to me now...


"The future ain't what it used to be."– Yogi Berra

"Square roots are rarely found on any plant." FTW

Sandy Eggo

So, Anne, what's so bright and cheerful about the oil leak?
Only after the last tree has been cut down. Only after the last river has been poisoned. Only after the last fish has been caught. Only then will you find that money cannot be eaten. - -Cree Indian Prophecy

"Women who strive to be equal to men lack ambitition" -- anonymous

Anne

Nothing, but the storm missing it is a good thing, right? Why not take it for the piece of good news that it is?
"A discontented man will find no easy chair." Ben Franklin

The Troll

Quote from: Henry Hawk on June 27, 2010, 12:40:25 PM
The ONE and ONLY reason WHY Obama has not waived the Jones act is because of his cozy  relationship with labor unions...it needs to be waived as did Bush during Katrina, for the purposes of allowing foreign ships to get in here and help us clean up this spill.......the labor unions are wanting to capitalize themselves during a catastrophe....and that is low........we need the worlds help right now, this is potenially the biggest ecological and possibly very massive economical event to in modern lifetimes in the US.

that my buddy Troll, is a fact. ;)

there is no logical reason why we cannot have some of the help that has been offered here to assist this mess....NONE!!.....there are political motives involved, that is the only reason why, and that is about as unpatriotic as it gets.....we should have every ship know available that has skimming powers on its way here, or already here....working....it sickens me the more I think about why they are NOT here.

                                      IS THERE NO SMART, INTELLIGENT REPUBLICANS ANY MORE!

   First the anti-union logic.  Second, no knowloge of the Jones Act #55133.  Third the anti-Obama thing.  Forth,  no knowledge of skimmers.  Fifth, know everything about stabbing Obama and America in the back.

  Henry, go back up 4 post and read Jones Act #55113 on exemption on oil spills.  Foreign skimmer can come in on oil spill.  The union as nothing in it.

  In the United States there are 2000 skimmers, only 400 are in operation.  Why hasn't BP hired them.  This is one thing the government shouldn't have to do.   It's BP's mess, let them clean it up.

  Every day you get more and more like a baby Robin.  You have no reason in what you say.

Exterminator

Quote from: The Troll on June 27, 2010, 02:14:47 PM
Henry, go back up 4 post and read Jones Act #55113 on exemption on oil spills.  Foreign skimmer can come in on oil spill.

Why would he?  If he educates himself, he loses the foundation for his baseless arguments and has nothing.
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