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Should the US Continue Off Shore Drilling Despite The Spill?

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Quote from: The Troll on June 25, 2010, 01:27:09 PM
  Oh, don't get me wrong, we have some bad ones.  But, nothing compared to the super rich, predatory capatilist and corporation whorshipping assholes your party it.

  I suppose you agree with one of the Tea Party canidates for govenor who want to put a cap of what the victims of the BP oil spill can get and let the taxpayer pick up the rest.  Republican Dogma :bs: and :bs:  and :bs:.  The Troll   :tiphat:
Troll, I realize you don't see any need for a cap to be put on what the victims can get from BP but you aren't thinking about those who would take advantage of the situation and try to claim more than they would ever earn just because they can.  Yes, it would make it hard on the honest people but there needs to be some restrictions rather than just paying any amount to any and everyone.  Look at what happened with Katrina.  There were people who didn't even live in the state getting checks because they, the state, were just handing them out to everyone who asked at first.
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Quote from: The Troll on June 25, 2010, 01:27:09 PM
  Oh, don't get me wrong, we have some bad ones.  But, nothing compared to the super rich, predatory capatilist and corporation whorshipping assholes your party it.

  I suppose you agree with one of the Tea Party canidates for govenor who want to put a cap of what the victims of the BP oil spill can get and let the taxpayer pick up the rest.  Republican Dogma :bs: and :bs:  and :bs: .  The Troll   :tiphat:


No, and I don't think there are many (if any) of us who WANT BP to get off with anything....I want them to do as they say they are going to do....and pay for ALL legitimate claims.
"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."
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Henry Hawk

Quote from: Palehorse on June 25, 2010, 01:31:15 PM
as a gesture of good faith; demonstrating his willingness to work with anyone?

my ass!!!!!!! :mad:

he did it because BP and big oil had him on their payroll during the last election.....PERIOD.

let me remind you that obama was the biggest recepient of CASH BY BP during this last election.....

be careful WHO you call morons..... ;)  maybe a look in the mirror would be called for before you start calling OTHERS names. ;)

I'm sick of liberals who won't look at what is going on.....you keep on blaming "tea party" folks for a mess that has been created and stimulated by your very own.....I have never been more serious as I am right now about a group of people who have drank the "kool aid"...as I am now.

wake TFU!!!

quit watching MSNBC............for God's sake!!!

it is going to be the hard working folks of this country who is going to vote AGAIN this November, that will swing the pendulam BACK in the direction it needs to go, to save this country..........

don't believe me?...........just wait and see.... ;)
"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."
Ecclesiastes 10:2 - It all makes sense to me now...


"The future ain't what it used to be."– Yogi Berra

"Square roots are rarely found on any plant." FTW

Palehorse

Quote from: Henry Hawk on June 25, 2010, 01:47:41 PM
my ass!!!!!!! :mad:

he did it because BP and big oil had him on their payroll during the last election.....PERIOD.

let me remind you that obama was the biggest recepient of CASH BY BP during this last election.....

That statement right there exemplifies exactly how desperate and low you idiots will go. Despite being PROVEN wrong elsewhere within this forum, you keep on spewing this LIE! You have told it so many times you now believe it despite the fact it has been proven a lie. . . :rolleyes:


Quote from: Henry Hawk on June 25, 2010, 01:47:41 PM
be careful WHO you call morons..... ;)  maybe a look in the mirror would be called for before you start calling OTHERS names. ;)

I'm sick of liberals who won't look at what is going on.....you keep on blaming "tea party" folks for a mess that has been created and stimulated by your very own.....I have never been more serious as I am right now about a group of people who have drank the "kool aid"...as I am now.

wake TFU!!!

quit watching MSNBC............for God's sake!!!

it is going to be the hard working folks of this country who is going to vote AGAIN this November, that will swing the pendulam BACK in the direction it needs to go, to save this country..........

don't believe me?...........just wait and see.... ;)

I call them like I see them; if it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck, and waddles like a duck. . .

If you think this mess was created in the last 18 months you are seriously delusional. . . Which explains a lot. . .
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Palehorse

Quote from: Palehorse on June 25, 2010, 01:31:15 PM
. . .

And now mother nature is brewing up a special treat for everyone along the gulf coast, the big blow surprise! It's anyone's guess which way it will shove the oil but one thing is certain, its coming ashore in quantities NO ONE is ready to deal with.  :mad: :mad: :mad:

Interesting that you two avoid this portion of my previous post, but not surprising. You aren't the ones being forcefully administered a crude oil enema are you?  :rant:

And lets all act surprised when BP weasels out of their responsibilities by attributing it to an "act of god"!  :rolleyes:
R.I.P. - followsthewolf - You are MISSED! 4/17/2013

That which fails to kill me. . .should run!

Any "point" made by one that lacks credibility, is only as useful as toilet paper; and serves the same purpose. ~ Palehorse 4/22/2017

May you find charity when it is needed, and the ability to extend it when it is not. ~Palehorse 7/4/2012

To the last, I grapple with thee; From Hell's heart, I stab at thee; For hate's sake, I spit my last breath at thee.~Herman Melville

The Troll

Quote from: Henry Hawk on June 25, 2010, 01:47:41 PM
my ass!!!!!!! :mad:

he did it because BP and big oil had him on their payroll during the last election.....PERIOD.

let me remind you that obama was the biggest recepient of CASH BY BP during this last election.....

be careful WHO you call morons..... ;)  maybe a look in the mirror would be called for before you start calling OTHERS names. ;)

I'm sick of liberals who won't look at what is going on.....you keep on blaming "tea party" folks for a mess that has been created and stimulated by your very own.....I have never been more serious as I am right now about a group of people who have drank the "kool aid"...as I am now.

wake TFU!!!

quit watching MSNBC............for God's sake!!!

it is going to be the hard working folks of this country who is going to vote AGAIN this November, that will swing the pendulam BACK in the direction it needs to go, to save this country..........

don't believe me?...........just wait and see.... ;)

  I will continue to watch MSMBC because I have never caught them lying.  If you watch Fox you're going to be lied to or they forget to tell you something you should know.

  Rupert Murdoch, Bill O'riely, Hannity, Glen Beck and one newreader on the morning show who said this week, her job was as important as the POTUS  :rotfl: :rotfl:  You got to be kidding me. 

  I have tried to watch Fox News, I just don't have the guts too.  :puke:  It's that bad.

Henry Hawk

Quote from: Palehorse on June 25, 2010, 02:01:43 PM
Interesting that you two avoid this portion of my previous post, but not surprising. You aren't the ones being forcefully administered a crude oil enema are you?  :rant:

And lets all act surprised when BP weasels out of their responsibilities by attributing it to an "act of god"!  :rolleyes:

who is ignoring it?......why would you even THINK I would ignore it?.......but it seems to me like it is the government that is going to allow this to wash up ashore.....it is the gov that is stopping gov jindall from doing what he needs to protect his beaches......it was obama that told other countries we didn't need any help with skimmers........what the hell?
"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."
Ecclesiastes 10:2 - It all makes sense to me now...


"The future ain't what it used to be."– Yogi Berra

"Square roots are rarely found on any plant." FTW

Palehorse

Quote from: Henry Hawk on June 25, 2010, 02:12:10 PM
who is ignoring it?......why would you even THINK I would ignore it?.......but it seems to me like it is the government that is going to allow this to wash up ashore.....it is the gov that is stopping gov jindall from doing what he needs to protect his beaches......it was obama that told other countries we didn't need any help with skimmers........what the hell?

Spin baby, spin. . .  :rolleyes:

Asked and answered at least a dozen times. . . And I'm not in the mood for leftovers.

R.I.P. - followsthewolf - You are MISSED! 4/17/2013

That which fails to kill me. . .should run!

Any "point" made by one that lacks credibility, is only as useful as toilet paper; and serves the same purpose. ~ Palehorse 4/22/2017

May you find charity when it is needed, and the ability to extend it when it is not. ~Palehorse 7/4/2012

To the last, I grapple with thee; From Hell's heart, I stab at thee; For hate's sake, I spit my last breath at thee.~Herman Melville

Henry Hawk

Quote from: Palehorse on June 25, 2010, 02:15:00 PM
Spin baby, spin. . .  :rolleyes:

Asked and answered at least a dozen times. . . And I'm not in the mood for leftovers.



your answers was the same as the white houses.....BS.

There is not ONE good reason that we should not have EVERY available ship from ANY country that is willing to help our there RIGHT now....cleaning the best we can to stop it from reaching the beaches..
"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."
Ecclesiastes 10:2 - It all makes sense to me now...


"The future ain't what it used to be."– Yogi Berra

"Square roots are rarely found on any plant." FTW

Exterminator

This crisis was caused by BP and BP is responsible for handling it.  I thought you were against government intervention into the affairs of corporations but now you're bitching about them not doing enough?  Which is it?
Arguing with Christians is like playing chess with a pigeon.  No matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock over the pieces, shit on the board and strut around like it's victorious.

The truth is slow, but relentless. Over time it becomes irresistible.

Henry Hawk

Quote from: Exterminator on June 25, 2010, 03:18:39 PM
This crisis was caused by BP and BP is responsible for handling it.  I thought you were against government intervention into the affairs of corporations but now you're bitching about them not doing enough?  Which is it?

I want to accept help that anyone can offer, this cirsis is bigger than we can handle ourselves....as it is becoming more and more obvious.....BP cannot allow other countries into this area.....BP cannot allow work to be done that Jindall is begging our Government to help with.....it is no different that asking for the UN to help during time of war....this IS what our government is supposed to do.....defend our borders, and right now our borders is under attack.....with crude oil.
"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."
Ecclesiastes 10:2 - It all makes sense to me now...


"The future ain't what it used to be."– Yogi Berra

"Square roots are rarely found on any plant." FTW

The Troll

Quote from: Henry Hawk on June 25, 2010, 02:42:19 PM
your answers was the same as the white houses.....BS.

There is not ONE good reason that we should not have EVERY available ship from ANY country that is willing to help our there RIGHT now....cleaning the best we can to stop it from reaching the beaches..

  Henry, let me explain to you something so simple about this oil spill.

  Say you have a building that is 1000 ft long and 1000 ft wide, that's a 1 million square feet of floor space.  In the middle of it you have a 50 horse power Gordon Rupt pump pumping 1200 gallons of water per minute onto the floor.  You could take a 1000 people with 1000 mops and 1000 buckets and you aren't going to get the mess clean up until someone shut off the damn pump.

   Well, we have a oil well, out in theGulf, pumping out around 10,000 barrels of oil per day (who knows how much) that  550,000 gallons of crude per day or 22,917 gallons hour of crude oil, (one nasty piece of crap) and it's still flowing.  Nothing humanly possible can clean up this mess until the damn flow is stopped.

  You know damn well the White House can't stop the damn well.  Hell, you wonderful BP can't get it stopped and you know they have ask all of their buddies in the oil business for some way to stop it, what are we going to do :pray:  That hasn't worked so far.

Henry Hawk

Quote from: The Troll on June 25, 2010, 03:31:36 PM
  Henry, let me explain to you something so simple about this oil spill.

  Say you have a building that is 1000 ft long and 1000 ft wide, that's a 1 million square feet of floor space.  In the middle of it you have a 50 horse power Gordon Rupt pump pumping 1200 gallons of water per minute onto the floor.  You could take a 1000 people with 1000 mops and 1000 buckets and you aren't going to get the mess clean up until someone shut off the damn pump.

   Well, we have a oil well, out in theGulf, pumping out around 10,000 barrels of oil per day (who knows how much) that  550,000 gallons of crude per day or 22,917 gallons hour of crude oil, (one nasty piece of crap) and it's still flowing.  Nothing humanly possible can clean up this mess until the damn flow is stopped.

  You know damn well the White House can't stop the damn well.  Hell, you wonderful BP can't get it stopped and you know they have ask all of their buddies in the oil business for some way to stop it, what are we going to do :pray:  That hasn't worked so far.

I'm not bitching at the WH about stopping the well........I'm bitching that they are not getting everyone possible with a mop, to start the clean up.....and you analysis is not a good one.....we CAN skimm oil.....are you seriously just saying that we should do NOTHING until the leak is stopped!?.....if so, that is about as dumb as I have ever heard you respond to any question.....we should be sucking and skimming with every available boat and/or contraption that is available......no mater WHO or WHERE they are from......sitting back and watching a few more McCartney concerts will NOT do anytnhing to contribute to fixing this mess.....
"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."
Ecclesiastes 10:2 - It all makes sense to me now...


"The future ain't what it used to be."– Yogi Berra

"Square roots are rarely found on any plant." FTW

Exterminator

How do you simultaneously allow foreign nationals close enough to our shoreline to effect any meaningful cleanup and protect the integrity of our border?
Arguing with Christians is like playing chess with a pigeon.  No matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock over the pieces, shit on the board and strut around like it's victorious.

The truth is slow, but relentless. Over time it becomes irresistible.

me

Quote from: Exterminator on June 25, 2010, 03:59:21 PM
How do you simultaneously allow foreign nationals close enough to our shoreline to effect any meaningful cleanup and protect the integrity of our border?
How were they allowed after Katrina.  Didn't harm anything then.  It's the friendly countries offering help not the ones we have problems with.
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