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Should the US Continue Off Shore Drilling Despite The Spill?

Started by Palehorse, May 04, 2010, 01:38:32 PM

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Palehorse

Quote from: Anne on June 23, 2010, 11:28:20 AM
The oil rigs are not airplanes, apples to oranges.

So workplace and environmental safety threats are worthless??  :rolleyes:
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Henry Hawk

Quote from: Palehorse on June 23, 2010, 11:38:57 AM
So workplace and environmental safety threats are worthless??  :rolleyes:

who said they was worthless...
"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."
Ecclesiastes 10:2 - It all makes sense to me now...


"The future ain't what it used to be."– Yogi Berra

"Square roots are rarely found on any plant." FTW

The Troll

Quote from: Anne on June 23, 2010, 11:28:20 AM
The oil rigs are not airplanes, apples to oranges.

  This BP oil rig did more damage than an air plane crash.  A plane go down and 200 to 300 poor people lose their lives and the families suffer.  Well this oil rig only killed 19 men and millions and millions of animal and sea life and the place the replunish themselves of years were destroyed.

  Now were just getting to the damage to the people and property of the people on the coast.  Naaah, to you that's nothing.  Airplanes and oil rig are different.  Not in pain or damage.  Wake up girl and breath the fresh air we have here, they don't have it on the coast.

  Don't you think they should find out what caused this explosion and oil leak.  We know one thing that the Blow- Out Preventer had a failure rate of 50%.  Hummmmmm could the other rigs have the same thing.  Hell No, Just drill baby, drill.

Locutus

Now it looks like the 'effin containment cap has blown off.  There is a marked increase in the flow of oil from the leak today and BP is preparing a statement.


:mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:


http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/37841204/ns/disaster_in_the_gulf/?ns=disaster_in_the_gulf
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Anne

How long can it take to check the blow out protectors. Don't you think the people on the other oil rigs are looking at everything on those rigs, unless of course they have a death wish. Don't you think the other companies are checking all their equipment, maybe they don't have as deep pockets as BP.

Of course the damage to the environment means something, my son lives on the FL coast. I never said it didn't matter.

I said I thought and still think President Obama had a knee jerk reaction and as someone in his administration says, never let a good crisis go to waste, advance your agenda.

Where did the other 7 people get killed or did more die from injuries from the fire? Last I heard it was 11.
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Henry Hawk

Posing a moritorium on ALL wells in the Gulf is acinine...they should only impose them on rigs that are high risk wells in deep waters....and allow them to start immediatly after a proper inspection...Imposing a 6 month moratorium will endanger 800 to 1,400 jobs per rig, including third-party associated service jobs...there are over 4,000 rigs in the gulf of Mexico...you guys do the math....this COULD effect over 3,000,000 jobs....

THEN, there is a threat of more transporting tankers coming into our area because of OUR decreasing production in the Gulf...we will have to have more imported oil .....and historically THEY have accounted for far more oil spillage than well blowouts....

also, many of these rigs will simply move to other area's where they CAN drill....once they are gone, it may be years before they come back...

my thought is, there has to be political motives behind this IF this stands.....and it could very well be extemely detrmental to those Americans who depend on this industry as a way of life....


http://sec.wltx.com/article/0bEXgUagFA5Hk?q=Louisiana

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Gulf_Coast_Platforms.jpg
"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."
Ecclesiastes 10:2 - It all makes sense to me now...


"The future ain't what it used to be."– Yogi Berra

"Square roots are rarely found on any plant." FTW

Palehorse

Quote from: Palehorse on June 22, 2010, 08:28:53 PM

There are presently 1,426 ON shore rotary drilling rigs in operation within the US as of April 2010 - of the 1,816 total active rigs. Of these 508 currently target crude oil only, with the balance drilling for oil and gas.
http://www.eia.doe.gov/dnav/pet/hist/LeafHandler.ashx?n=PET&s=E_ERTRR0_XR0_RUSON_C&f=M

Alaskan oil fields accounted for 20,030 (thousand of barrels) in the month of April this year, with the entire lower 48 producing 288,060 (thousands of barrels) during the same month.

http://www.eia.doe.gov/dnav/pet/pet_sum_crdsnd_k_m.htm

The US owns less than 2% of the proven oil reserves in the entire world, and accelerating the removal of that oil from the earth will do nothing except move the date we are screwed forward in time, leaving our children and their children to deal with the fact we (in general) are too greedy and ignorant to have considered alternative energy sources and implemented them before we depleted our oil reserves.  If production averages continue to increase as they are currently averaging, US oil reserves will be depleted ( according to some estimates from within the industry itself) within the next 8 to 12 years. Then what?



Quote from: Henry Hawk on June 23, 2010, 12:30:27 PM
Posing a moritorium on ALL wells in the Gulf is acinine...they should only impose them on rigs that are high risk wells in deep waters....and allow them to start immediatly after a proper inspection...Imposing a 6 month moratorium will endanger 800 to 1,400 jobs per rig, including third-party associated service jobs...there are over 4,000 rigs in the gulf of Mexico...you guys do the math....this COULD effect over 3,000,000 jobs....

. . .

You'd better check your sources and do a little research before you swallow that kool aid. . .

http://www.eia.doe.gov/dnav/pet/pet_crd_drill_s1_m.htm

According to the Energy Information Administration and Department of Energy, there were a total of 51 offshore rigs in operation as of March of this year. . . of those 76% were classified as deep water, (depths greater than 200 meters).
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Any "point" made by one that lacks credibility, is only as useful as toilet paper; and serves the same purpose. ~ Palehorse 4/22/2017

May you find charity when it is needed, and the ability to extend it when it is not. ~Palehorse 7/4/2012

To the last, I grapple with thee; From Hell's heart, I stab at thee; For hate's sake, I spit my last breath at thee.~Herman Melville

Palehorse

Quote from: Anne on June 23, 2010, 12:20:20 PM
How long can it take to check the blow out protectors. Don't you think the people on the other oil rigs are looking at everything on those rigs, unless of course they have a death wish. Don't you think the other companies are checking all their equipment, maybe they don't have as deep pockets as BP.

Of course the damage to the environment means something, my son lives on the FL coast. I never said it didn't matter.

. . .

4 of the 5 top profit generating entities last year were oil companies. . . Only Walmart prevented them from obtaining 5 of 5. . .
R.I.P. - followsthewolf - You are MISSED! 4/17/2013

That which fails to kill me. . .should run!

Any "point" made by one that lacks credibility, is only as useful as toilet paper; and serves the same purpose. ~ Palehorse 4/22/2017

May you find charity when it is needed, and the ability to extend it when it is not. ~Palehorse 7/4/2012

To the last, I grapple with thee; From Hell's heart, I stab at thee; For hate's sake, I spit my last breath at thee.~Herman Melville

Henry Hawk

No kool aid being drunk, those are my own research results....based upon what is being told to us....

you may be right, but based upon wikipedia's results and The Louisiana Mid-Continent Oil and Gas Association...

none of the media is getting anything right these days....so, I did my own investative journalism during lunch, and THIS is what I came up with.....

along with articles such as:
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=127942449&ft=1&f=1006
"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."
Ecclesiastes 10:2 - It all makes sense to me now...


"The future ain't what it used to be."– Yogi Berra

"Square roots are rarely found on any plant." FTW

Palehorse

Quote from: Locutus on June 23, 2010, 12:18:37 PM
Now it looks like the 'effin containment cap has blown off.  There is a marked increase in the flow of oil from the leak today and BP is preparing a statement.


:mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:


http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/37841204/ns/disaster_in_the_gulf/?ns=disaster_in_the_gulf

Yup!  :rant: The oil is back to flowing as it did from the start.

2 additional deaths are now being reported. . . one of them an operator aboard a vessel of opportunity. . . :mad: :mad: :mad:
R.I.P. - followsthewolf - You are MISSED! 4/17/2013

That which fails to kill me. . .should run!

Any "point" made by one that lacks credibility, is only as useful as toilet paper; and serves the same purpose. ~ Palehorse 4/22/2017

May you find charity when it is needed, and the ability to extend it when it is not. ~Palehorse 7/4/2012

To the last, I grapple with thee; From Hell's heart, I stab at thee; For hate's sake, I spit my last breath at thee.~Herman Melville

Locutus

One of the gravest dangers to the survival of our republic is an ignorant electorate routinely feeding at the trough of propaganda.   -- Locutus

"We are all connected; To each other, biologically. To the earth, chemically. To the rest of the universe atomically."  -- Dr. Neil deGrasse Tyson

Locutus

^^  It's pouring out faster now that I've seen it since the start of this 'effin nightmare.   

:mad:
One of the gravest dangers to the survival of our republic is an ignorant electorate routinely feeding at the trough of propaganda.   -- Locutus

"We are all connected; To each other, biologically. To the earth, chemically. To the rest of the universe atomically."  -- Dr. Neil deGrasse Tyson

Palehorse

R.I.P. - followsthewolf - You are MISSED! 4/17/2013

That which fails to kill me. . .should run!

Any "point" made by one that lacks credibility, is only as useful as toilet paper; and serves the same purpose. ~ Palehorse 4/22/2017

May you find charity when it is needed, and the ability to extend it when it is not. ~Palehorse 7/4/2012

To the last, I grapple with thee; From Hell's heart, I stab at thee; For hate's sake, I spit my last breath at thee.~Herman Melville

The Troll

Quote from: Palehorse on June 23, 2010, 01:33:42 PM
Damned!  :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:

  It is damn bad, but we all know that it's the Democrats and Obama who caused this, so he can get on with his socialized "Agenda"   We're on the road to hell.  Let us :pray:

me

Well, I know this is gonna make some of you jump up and down and yell source...proof.....lie but I would say the oil leak might be fixed soon because the detraction will no longer be needed.



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