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Palehorse

Quote from: Henry Hawk on July 13, 2010, 04:19:30 PM
and just WHAT exactly are the democrats doing to change things?....HOW, are they keeping jobs from leaving here?

They can't because of the republican obstructionist political campaign!  :mad:
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LOsborne

Quote from: me on July 13, 2010, 02:09:28 PM
And where do you think the jobs come from to put in our pockets so we can have the money to spend genius? 

I'm still waiting for you or Henry to provide us with a report (or a link to one -- factual data only, please) which will quantify all the wonderful jobs that were created as a result of the ten years of Bush tax cuts for the wealthy. Our expectations of the jobs which would be created by suspending the capital gains tax should be similar.

The Troll

Quote from: LOsborne on July 13, 2010, 06:56:52 PM
I'm still waiting for you or Henry to provide us with a report (or a link to one -- factual data only, please) which will quantify all the wonderful jobs that were created as a result of the ten years of Bush tax cuts for the wealthy. Our expectations of the jobs which would be created by suspending the capital gains tax should be similar.

  Don't hold you breath.  I still waiting for him to tell me if cutting capital gains tax would bring jobs  and the small business back to Anderson.  Remember all the fine small business there were in Anderson.

  Another thing that bothers me about Henry.  He want to give the rich money, with tax cuts, who don't need it and are really doing fine.  But he don't want to give a single penny to a out of work middle class worker who has had his job out sourced.  I think that if he has a heart, it's cold and black and pumps piss.

LOsborne

Quote from: The Troll on July 13, 2010, 07:52:20 PM
   I think that if he has a heart, it's cold and black and pumps piss.

I think you're getting too personal in your attacks. If you want to question his conclusions, go for it. If you want to question his character, this ain't the place. By the way, are you still beating your wife?

Palehorse

Quote from: The Troll on July 13, 2010, 07:52:20 PM
  . . .  I think that if he has a heart, it's cold and black and pumps piss.

Naw. . . It pumps purple Kool Aid just like Cheney's!  :biggrin: (Only Cheney has a battery back up!)  :icon_twisted:
R.I.P. - followsthewolf - You are MISSED! 4/17/2013

That which fails to kill me. . .should run!

Any "point" made by one that lacks credibility, is only as useful as toilet paper; and serves the same purpose. ~ Palehorse 4/22/2017

May you find charity when it is needed, and the ability to extend it when it is not. ~Palehorse 7/4/2012

To the last, I grapple with thee; From Hell's heart, I stab at thee; For hate's sake, I spit my last breath at thee.~Herman Melville

LOsborne

Quote from: Palehorse on July 13, 2010, 07:57:23 PM
Naw. . . It pumps purple Kool Aid just like Cheney's!

Cheney's heart doesn't pump anything. He is undead.

Palehorse

Quote from: LOsborne on July 13, 2010, 07:58:47 PM
Cheney's heart doesn't pump anything. He is undead.

Then what is the battery for????
R.I.P. - followsthewolf - You are MISSED! 4/17/2013

That which fails to kill me. . .should run!

Any "point" made by one that lacks credibility, is only as useful as toilet paper; and serves the same purpose. ~ Palehorse 4/22/2017

May you find charity when it is needed, and the ability to extend it when it is not. ~Palehorse 7/4/2012

To the last, I grapple with thee; From Hell's heart, I stab at thee; For hate's sake, I spit my last breath at thee.~Herman Melville

LOsborne


Palehorse

R.I.P. - followsthewolf - You are MISSED! 4/17/2013

That which fails to kill me. . .should run!

Any "point" made by one that lacks credibility, is only as useful as toilet paper; and serves the same purpose. ~ Palehorse 4/22/2017

May you find charity when it is needed, and the ability to extend it when it is not. ~Palehorse 7/4/2012

To the last, I grapple with thee; From Hell's heart, I stab at thee; For hate's sake, I spit my last breath at thee.~Herman Melville

followsthewolf

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Exterminator

Quote from: LOsborne on July 13, 2010, 06:56:52 PM
I'm still waiting for you or Henry to provide us with a report (or a link to one -- factual data only, please) which will quantify all the wonderful jobs that were created as a result of the ten years of Bush tax cuts for the wealthy. Our expectations of the jobs which would be created by suspending the capital gains tax should be similar.

You'll be waiting a long time...neither Henry or 'me' will address the elephant in the room.
Arguing with Christians is like playing chess with a pigeon.  No matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock over the pieces, shit on the board and strut around like it's victorious.

The truth is slow, but relentless. Over time it becomes irresistible.

Exterminator

Quote from: Henry Hawk on July 13, 2010, 02:42:25 PM
I have posted SEVERAL links over the years with PROOF, hell, we LIVED through some great economic times BECAUSE of stimulated growth due to the cutting of taxes....that quote was FROM YOUR SOUCE...EX, and it says,  reductions in the overall taxation of capital income can measurably increase economic growth....PERIOD.....from THE CBO....I never claimed that other factors COULD not also contribute......bu the fact remains, The CBO, admits, it CAN measurably increase economic growth...where as YOU and your liberal friends on here, claim that is does NOT...IT DOES!!

Dear god...it is pointless to continue to attempt meaningful discussion over this or any other issue until you learn how to read.
Arguing with Christians is like playing chess with a pigeon.  No matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock over the pieces, shit on the board and strut around like it's victorious.

The truth is slow, but relentless. Over time it becomes irresistible.

Henry Hawk

Quote from: Palehorse on July 13, 2010, 05:05:09 PM
They can't because of the republican obstructionist political campaign!  :mad:

bullshit!!!.. :rant: ..that is the lamest excuse I have EVER heard.. :rant: ..if it had NOT been for a few strong hearted republicans, we would have been in even WORSE mess... :rant: .....





i just deleted the rest of my rant, only because I have way too much respect for a few on here..........as God as my witness, I don't know why I waste my time here... :no:
"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."
Ecclesiastes 10:2 - It all makes sense to me now...


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Henry Hawk

Quote from: Exterminator on July 14, 2010, 07:48:14 AM
Dear god...it is pointless to continue to attempt meaningful discussion over this or any other issue until you learn how to read.

I have read EXACTLY what it meant to say....and I proved to YOU that YOU was wrong.....with the emprical facts as you called it....and I can careless if this discussion continues any further...........I have laid out enough of a case by some of the top economist who ALL agree that the first thing that SHOULD be done is cutting or suspending the Capital Gains tax.....Lolly do you need a few pie charts or what?.......


the bottom line is, it is just common sense......you allow business' that are struggling to keep MORE of it's money to continue operations, to move forward, NOT backwards......it would allow companies who would LIKE to expand, to expand....right now, they are terrified to expand....I know of two companies right now, who are holding off ALL spending, that we normally would be doing work for, until this economy show signs of improving....there are companies who are laying off, IF, they had NO taxes to pay this year, they would NOT be laying off......WALL STREET alone would rocket, if such a move was made to suspend the Capital Gains tax...folks would begin to reinvest into the stock market.......

just read some of the links I provided instead of looking at how to degrade the writers, and prove them wrong, because they don't line up with YOUR way of thinking.....

I'm wearing thin, and this is not really much fun anymore around here, it is the same old same old everyday...
"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."
Ecclesiastes 10:2 - It all makes sense to me now...


"The future ain't what it used to be."– Yogi Berra

"Square roots are rarely found on any plant." FTW