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Arizona's new illigal ilien law. Good or Bad?

Started by The Troll, April 29, 2010, 10:45:23 AM

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followsthewolf

Quote from: Henry Hawk on July 01, 2010, 08:30:40 AM

and we are turning into a country where....a society where entrepreneurship was IS a crime..... :no:

we need to take a page from history from these other countries who have already been down that road of socialism....and they are ALL turning away from it, and slowly becoming back to more of a true democracy....

Trouble is, some people think they're being entrepreneurs, when they are actually thieves. (Old school -- Fisk, Gould, Rockefeller; New school -- Gates)

And that's why we need government intervention.
Ignorance and fanaticism are ravenous. They require constant feeding.

Henry Hawk

Quote from: followsthewolf on July 01, 2010, 01:25:04 PM
Trouble is, some people think they're being entrepreneurs, when they are actually thieves. (Old school -- Fisk, Gould, Rockefeller; New school -- Gates)

And that's why we need government intervention.

but the vast majority of the entrepreneurs is being punished, and then we ALL pay the price.....I am not against a reasonable amount of regulations against the BIG business....we got to not take out the small business in the process...
"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."
Ecclesiastes 10:2 - It all makes sense to me now...


"The future ain't what it used to be."– Yogi Berra

"Square roots are rarely found on any plant." FTW

followsthewolf

Ignorance and fanaticism are ravenous. They require constant feeding.

Henry Hawk

Quote from: followsthewolf on July 01, 2010, 02:01:01 PM
How are they being punished?

the WILL see a tax increase.....with a struggling economy....that is like pour salt on a wound.
"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."
Ecclesiastes 10:2 - It all makes sense to me now...


"The future ain't what it used to be."– Yogi Berra

"Square roots are rarely found on any plant." FTW

The Troll

Quote from: Henry Hawk on July 01, 2010, 03:06:17 PMthe WILL see a tax increase.....with a struggling economy....that is like pour salt on a wound.

  Counting your Hawk eggs before their hatched.  There has to be a tax raise.  But I bet the little man and woman and small business won't suffer like the poor, poor, wooo is me, :'( crying super rich who has recieved all of George W. tax cuts. :'( :'( :'( :'( :biggrin:

  The Troll, salt can clean out an infected wound, if you're poor and can't affford medical care.  :tiphat:  :biggrin:

LOsborne

Quote from: me on July 01, 2010, 11:30:25 AM
Hum, I noticed one of the things done was to cut taxes. ...

Damn. I just read the whole 19 page document again and didn't find anything about tax cuts. Point it out to me, me.

LOsborne

Quote from: me on July 01, 2010, 11:30:25 AM

I guess the woman I know who visited her sister who lives there last year is full of crap then about conditions in the real Russia that isn't seen by the rest of the world. 


Is the sister-in-law of the cousin of your chiropractor's next door neighbor a business owner? If not, how would she know?

me

Quote from: LOsborne on July 01, 2010, 07:39:29 PM
Is the sister-in-law of the cousin of your chiropractor's next door neighbor a business owner? If not, how would she know?
Go ahead and make fun of it if you like 'cause I know you'd rather take "documentation" by a magazine or newspaper as proof but sometimes that what you refer to as anecdotal evidence is actual proof and should be believed above all.  It is someone I know who went there to visit her sister who lives there.  She spent two weeks there and was not in areas visited by tourists, reporters, and media.  If you prefer to believe the reports they want us to see go for it.   
Trump 2020

Sandy Eggo

Quote from: me on July 01, 2010, 07:51:37 PMbut sometimes that what you refer to as anecdotal evidence is actual proof and should be believed above all.

Yeah, because people are always a reliable source. Whoever said that hearsay shouldn't be admissible in court was an idiot! and why do we have SO many criminals on the streets when there are SO many quality eye-witness reports? and what's so hard to believe about every body of water on earth being full of fish over 6 feet long?

Documentation indeed! Who needs standards?!? Some people are JUST amazing.
Only after the last tree has been cut down. Only after the last river has been poisoned. Only after the last fish has been caught. Only then will you find that money cannot be eaten. - -Cree Indian Prophecy

"Women who strive to be equal to men lack ambitition" -- anonymous

LOsborne

Quote from: me on July 01, 2010, 07:51:37 PM
Go ahead and make fun of it if you like ...

What? NO response to my request for the paragraph in my source that supports your allegation that Russians cut taxes to encourage private ownership of businesses?

LOsborne

Quote from: Sandy Eggo on July 01, 2010, 08:40:24 PM
Yeah, because people are always a reliable source.

Documentation indeed! Who needs standards?!? Some people are JUST amazing.

Whaddya think, Sandy? Would me be a valuable recruit to the Paranoid People of (Whatever) County? I'll present her name at the next clandestine meeting. But she's gonna have to show real skill to get a bid to join my Rapid Margarita Mixing Team.

Sandy Eggo

Quote from: LOsborne on July 01, 2010, 08:48:12 PM
Whaddya think, Sandy? Would me be a valuable recruit to the Paranoid People of (Whatever) County? I'll present her name at the next clandestine meeting. But she's gonna have to show real skill to get a bid to join my Rapid Margarita Mixing Team.

I think it sounds like a match made in he...er...somewhere.

Soooo, what qualifications does one need to be a member of the rapid Margarita drinking team? :biggrin:
Only after the last tree has been cut down. Only after the last river has been poisoned. Only after the last fish has been caught. Only then will you find that money cannot be eaten. - -Cree Indian Prophecy

"Women who strive to be equal to men lack ambitition" -- anonymous

LOsborne

Quote from: Sandy Eggo on July 01, 2010, 08:57:14 PM

Soooo, what qualifications does one need to be a member of the rapid Margarita drinking team? :biggrin:


Well, duh... you have to be able to mix Margaritas very quickly. Impress me and I'll tell you the secret ingredient.

LOsborne

Ooops. I didn't read the fine print. You asked about drinking, not mixing.

Rapid margarita drinkers? Sounds unamerican. Mine must be sipped. I don't care how fast you sip.

Sandy Eggo

Quote from: LOsborne on July 01, 2010, 08:59:48 PM
Ooops. I didn't read the fine print. You asked about drinking, not mixing.

Rapid margarita drinkers? Sounds unamerican. Mine must be sipped. I don't care how fast you sip.

Bartending was a great way to suppliment my income for about 8 years starting in college so I'm a fairly fast mixer, buuuut I prefer drinking sipping. ;D
Only after the last tree has been cut down. Only after the last river has been poisoned. Only after the last fish has been caught. Only then will you find that money cannot be eaten. - -Cree Indian Prophecy

"Women who strive to be equal to men lack ambitition" -- anonymous