Federal Judge rules National Day of Prayer statute unconstitutional

[Palehorse]

It comes down to that old adage- "Give them an inch and they'll take a mile". And so it works within the legal system.

The problem is once the elephant in the room is acknowledged, which now has been achieved via legal action, it must be addressed or it can become a legal foothold for additional challenges. In this respect our legal system works akin to playground rules; and once a kid is caught breaking a rule, then he/she points out others who are breaking the rules as some kind of twisted means of validation for his/her own actions. The whole thing snowballs and can get out of control without a decisive course of action, (or legal ruling in the case in question here).

Christianity counts a high number of individuals within its leadership across the country, that take a militant approach toward their chosen religion; on both sides of any given argument. Each one of these has demonstrated a clear affinity for attempting to meld religion and government, and they recognize no limitation toward engaging in acts of zealotry anywhere, anytime. (A certain Baptist Church comes to mind as an example of this).

Another example is in today's headlines surrounding a hospital in Florida refusing to allow the partner of a terminally ill patient into her room just because they lead an alternative lifestyle, and because that state has come out as an officially unsupportive one surrounding those leading alternative lifestyles. (This little piece of religious zealotry is a prime example of the undue influence religion exercises within government today, simply due to a precedent set a couple of hundred years ago during a period when humanity still believed in witches and was burning witches at the stake).

Religion has remained in the dark ages while the rest of the world has evolved. The post Locutus made quoting a Christian stating the fact that religion doesn't need governmental endorsement or validation to work, is probably the most sane approach I have seen coming from a Christian in a very long time. Religion doesn't need government and government doesn't need religion; its the reason they are supposed to be kept separate!

[followsthewolf]

Nothin' like a good ol' scrap about religion to huff up "patriot" feelings (you know, god and country stuff) so we can set the stage for electin' a god and country patriot to be senator/congress person/state representative/mayor/county executive/ad infinitum, ad nauseum.

Smoke and mirrors, much-ado-about-nothing stuff.

[pariann]

exactly.....because I most certainly don't need one day a year devoted to prayer.  I can pray anytime I feel like it, and I do.

[Henry Hawk]

exactly.....because I most certainly don't need one day a year devoted to prayer.  I can pray anytime I feel like it, and I do.

It's main point is to take one day in particular, where citizens can unite and pray for the nation....of course we can all pray anytime, but rarely do we, as a nation, pray for a common issue, and that is this country....I like the idea myself.

[pariann]

Henry....with the internet, you can make anything national without having the government create it.   You know...you dream something up and tell two friends...they tell two friends, who in turn tell two friends...next thing you know.....June 17, 2010 the nation knows that something is happening in unity.  (just pulled a random date out of thin air for the illustration)   I'm seeing it done all the time.   

[Henry Hawk]

Henry....with the internet, you can make anything national without having the government create it.   You know...you dream something up and tell two friends...they tell two friends, who in turn tell two friends...next thing you know.....June 17, 2010 the nation knows that something is happening in unity.  (just pulled a random date out of thin air for the illustration)   I'm seeing it done all the time.   

I agree, and that is what I have pretty much stated....I really don't care one way or the other, there is STILL going to be a National Day of Prayer.....I said I admire a POTUS who stands behind it and encourages it.

[Sandy Eggo]

So you want LESS government 'cept in the prayer bidness.

[Henry Hawk]

So you want LESS government 'cept in the prayer bidness.

Nope, not at all.....to me, it just shows some charactor, imo....for a potus to recognize the significance of honoring such a day..........but, for the zillionth time, prez or no prez approval, there is STILL going to be a national day of prayer....

don't make anything out of that statement other than what it is....

[Sandy Eggo]

No I get it...

*In my best Dana Carvey impersonating Bush Sr voice*

A president who interferes in the American public's right to be screwed by corporate insurance companies by promoting healthcare reform which is for the good of all Americans.....baaaaaaad


But a president who interferes in the American public's religious process by promoting prayer which is only good for those who assume that a national prayer day is beneficial b/c it endorses Christianity is ......goooood

Bad....Good...see it right there? Bad...Good... a huh

[LOsborne]

I can't believe y'all are swallowing this smoke-screen. Who gives a rat's ass whether National Day of Prayer is constitutional? Nah.... like Quayle's nomination was meant to distract us from the Silverado cluster-f***, this adjudication is meant to keep the public from paying attention to something else. My guess is this:

http://www.politicsdaily.com/2010/04/15/top-vatican-official-praised-bishop-who-covered-for-child-molest/?icid=main|

[The Troll]

I can't believe y'all are swallowing this smoke-screen. Who gives a rat's ass whether National Day of Prayer is constitutional? Nah.... like Quayle's nomination was meant to distract us from the Silverado cluster-f***, this adjudication is meant to keep the public from paying attention to something else. My guess is this:

http://www.politicsdaily.com/2010/04/15/top-vatican-official-praised-bishop-who-covered-for-child-molest/?icid=main|

   Loly, its Charlie Foxtrot.  Charlie Foxtrot.

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[Sandy Eggo]

Good point, Lolly. About as important as the war on Christmas

[Henry Hawk]

again, I haven't seen any Christians getting all out of sorts on this........I'm sure there are some evagelicals that are working the media for attention....but as God as my witness, people are going to have a national day of prayer with or without any gov approval....and life goes on.

[Sandy Eggo]

I can just picture you w/the back of your hand on your forehead...looking off into the distance...semi-swooning...."As god as my witness....."

[The Troll]

  Would somebody please say, Amen!  Ever seen an lost arm, leg, eye, bad heart or a deformed baby fixed with prayers.  It should be an easy job for God!

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