Federal Judge rules National Day of Prayer statute unconstitutional

[Moonglow]

I agree. let us burn some witches.

[Henry Hawk]

  You know, I don't give a damn what happened way back, when.  This is the Twenty-First Century.  The people from the bible and the founders of this country didn't know about germs, stem cells, automobiles, electrical power, atomic power, computers. science and on and on and on.

   We can't base our lives on what people thought way, way back then.  We know one thing, the founding fathers wanted freedom from religion and the Pope and the Church of England.

  We can pretty well guess that most of the people in the bible, the multitude was illiterate, except the the religious who was conning them.

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Our Constitution is/was the same back then as it is now...........the principals that are in it are the same then as they are now....it is not a "changing" document.....it is a timeless peice of art that was very well crafted.........and there is a reason for that........because they put God first and foremost in their lives as they was designing that document.

at least that is how I clearly see it.

[The Troll]

Our Constitution is/was the same back then as it is now...........the principals that are in it are the same then as they are now....it is not a "changing" document.....it is a timeless peice of art that was very well crafted.........and there is a reason for that........because they put God first and foremost in their lives as they was designing that document.

at least that is how I clearly see it.

                                                               


The Troll, enough said. 

[Palehorse]

Our Constitution is/was the same back then as it is now...........the principals that are in it are the same then as they are now....it is not a "changing" document.....it is a timeless peice of art that was very well crafted.........and there is a reason for that........

AHEM! Amendments. . .

[LOsborne]

In 1782, the United States Congress voted this resolution: "The Congress of the United States recommends and approves the Holy Bible for use in all schools."

Nope.

http://fakehistory.wordpress.com/2009/06/15/fake-quotations-congress-on-school-bibles/

Did you forget to check it out, Henry? I thought I taught you better.

[LOsborne]

And here's another TJ quote, just to even things up.

"To the corruptions of Christianity I am, indeed opposed; but not to the genuine precepts of Jesus himself. I am a Christian, in the only sense in which he wished any one to be; sincerely attached to his doctrines, in preference to all others."

And, of course, I will give you the source.

http://www.faithofourfathers.net/jefferson.html

So it looks like Jefferson liked the philosophy, and thought the mysticism was a bunch of crap. I kind of agree.

[Henry Hawk]

Nope.

http://fakehistory.wordpress.com/2009/06/15/fake-quotations-congress-on-school-bibles/

Did you forget to check it out, Henry? I thought I taught you better.

Wiki says...In November 1781, Hanson became the first President of Congress  to be elected for an annual term as specified in the Articles of Confederation...http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Hanson

Barton says so, so THAT is all you got?......not even a youtube?  and there are many sources siting HE is a liar also.

and for the record, it was actually the Continental Congress that did this, right after the Declaration of Independence was created..  http://www.rockymountainchristian.org/HTML/onlinestudies/HISTORY.pdf

I have several sources to back up my claim......all you have is Barton's word?...who clearly misconstrued it?

c'mon lolly...I got hundreds of quotes to support my beliefs and my statements....there is plenty of evidence to support the Godly tone that our forefathers had... would you like me to post every States preamble to their constitution?......ALL of them mention their respects to the Lord, or God, or Almighty or a distinct reference to God....some of them even mentions Jesus in their Constitution.....

Those guys BELEIVED...THAT is all I am saying...and based upon those strong beliefs...I believe we was Blessed by God, to deliver us the most free and liberty driven country in world history...and why we became the greatest Nation this earth has known....and why I think we are on the downfall, because of our lack of faith in the Almighty.....but, that is just the ol Hawks conclusion.... and one that I will NOT back down from.    this is one area where I have NO doubts that I am 100% correct....and feel good about it.

g'nite

Hank

[Moonglow]

God does not love our country anymore than he loves the least of the nations. We, as a nation are at our golden age. We have been the only super power now for over 20 years and still going strong. I, as a veteran, will never accept the thought that losers like to spread about the decline of the American Empire.

[LOsborne]

... and for the record, it was actually the Continental Congress that did this, right after the Declaration of Independence was created..

Hawk, I would probably have given you a pass on this if you had said Continental Congress. It was that phrase "In 1782, the United States Congress..." that blew the whistle. There was no United States Congress in 1782. A good con always gets the details right.

[Henry Hawk]

Hawk, I would probably have given you a pass on this if you had said Continental Congress. It was that phrase "In 1782, the United States Congress..." that blew the whistle. There was no United States Congress in 1782. A good con always gets the details right.

lets not lose site of the point...........Bibles WAS distrubuted by "congress" .... AFTER the Dec of Indp was signed....THEY, at that time, seen the significance of the Bible and what it meant for the integrity of this nation.

[Sandy Eggo]

Conjecture

[Henry Hawk]

Conjecture

based upon facts?...

[The Troll]

  What is so great about the bible.

  A book of lies, porn, killings, sacrifices people, genocide, about a so called god who is absolutely crazy.

  A god who was have made two people.  Who put them in a garden with an apple tree and a snake.  Told the woman not to eat the apples.  The snake talked them into eating the apples.  Then god threw them out into a cold, cold world with a curse upon them and all of the future generations.  Then having himself killed on a cross to forgive them for eating the apples, which would have not been a sin if he hadn't make it a sin.  Go figure.  Let us



                                                         

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[Henry Hawk]

I get way more out of it than that.....as a mater of fact it is one of the most amazing books ever written....just because you chose not to TRY to understand it, makes me sad...but, that is just another choice we ALL have to make....

it has helped me through some hard times....and I thank God for it.   

[The Troll]

I get way more out of it than that.....as a mater of fact it is one of the most amazing books ever written....just because you chose not to TRY to understand it, makes me sad...but, that is just another choice we ALL have to make....

it has helped me through some hard times....and I thank God for it.   

   God, didn't write the Bible.  King Constintine gather all of the religious leaders together, 400 years after Jesus died.  In order to keep his people under his control, they made up the bible then and they left out a whole lot of books that we don't get to see.

   Since then, the bible has been rewritten and rewritten and exists to day in over 100 different ways.  It wasn't written by God.

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