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The Supreme Court Is Wrong!

Started by Exterminator, January 22, 2010, 08:11:35 AM

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Palehorse

#45
February 01, 2010, 03:42:54 PM
R.I.P. - followsthewolf - You are MISSED! 4/17/2013

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Any "point" made by one that lacks credibility, is only as useful as toilet paper; and serves the same purpose. ~ Palehorse 4/22/2017

May you find charity when it is needed, and the ability to extend it when it is not. ~Palehorse 7/4/2012

To the last, I grapple with thee; From Hell's heart, I stab at thee; For hate's sake, I spit my last breath at thee.~Herman Melville

Y

#46
February 03, 2010, 02:40:57 PM
Hank, since you appear to be the main one here - if not the only one - making the claim (and vehemently at that) the Supreme Court was correct in their ruling, I truly wish to hear your (not just a bunch of C/P links - except for evidence and NOT from the usual suspects, if you know what I mean) legal arguments that they arrived at the proper conclusion.

For you to have gotten as steamed as you did over this topic, you must have some sound and compelling argument - right?   :confused:

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Law of Logical Argument - Anything is possible if you don't know what you are talking about.  ;)

"You've probably noticed that opinion pollsters go out of their way to include as many morons as possible in surveys ... I think it's dangerous to inform morons about what their fellow morons are thinking. It only reinforces their opinions. And the one thing worse than a moron with an opinion is lots of them." -- Scott Adams

In other words: Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups.  ;)

"It is difficult to get a man to understand something when his salary depends upon his not understanding it." -- Upton Sinclair

"Hitler is gone, but if the majority of our fellow citizens are more susceptible to the slogans of fear and race hatred than to those of peaceful accommodation and mutual respect among human beings, our political liberties remain at the mercy of any eloquent and unscrupulous demagogue." -- S. I. Hayakawa

Exterminator

#47
February 04, 2010, 10:26:34 AM
Did you mean to post that in the 'bad jokes' thread, Y?   :biggrin:
Arguing with Christians is like playing chess with a pigeon.  No matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock over the pieces, shit on the board and strut around like it's victorious.

The truth is slow, but relentless. Over time it becomes irresistible.

Doc

#48
February 05, 2010, 09:06:42 AM
This would allow traceability and end under the table cash infusions to one candidate from overseas investors... OOps poor Obama :)

Sandy Eggo

#49
February 05, 2010, 09:36:21 AM
I might be off-base here, but you don't seem to like Obama very much :biggrin:
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Y

#50
February 06, 2010, 07:30:11 PM
Quote from: Exterminator on February 04, 2010, 10:26:34 AM
Did you mean to post that in the 'bad jokes' thread, Y?   :biggrin:

:biggrin:  No.

You know me, I expect people to hold logical and persuasive reasons for advancing the 'opinions' they do.  I also expect them to be intellectually honest and bow to facts, evidence, logic, and the superior argument based on those things.  I expect honest discourse, and I don't expect people to spew BS just to play with people's minds.

I seriously doubt we'll ever see a healing of the divide in this nation until we can have honest discourse and an honest evaluation of the differences between us.

The adage 'All sides of an issue cannot be true' comes to mind here.
©  Whamma-Jamma - all rights reserved

Law of Logical Argument - Anything is possible if you don't know what you are talking about.  ;)

"You've probably noticed that opinion pollsters go out of their way to include as many morons as possible in surveys ... I think it's dangerous to inform morons about what their fellow morons are thinking. It only reinforces their opinions. And the one thing worse than a moron with an opinion is lots of them." -- Scott Adams

In other words: Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups.  ;)

"It is difficult to get a man to understand something when his salary depends upon his not understanding it." -- Upton Sinclair

"Hitler is gone, but if the majority of our fellow citizens are more susceptible to the slogans of fear and race hatred than to those of peaceful accommodation and mutual respect among human beings, our political liberties remain at the mercy of any eloquent and unscrupulous demagogue." -- S. I. Hayakawa

dan foster

#51
February 07, 2010, 11:43:04 AM
Quote from: Doc on February 05, 2010, 09:06:42 AM
This would allow traceability and end under the table cash infusions to one candidate from overseas investors... OOps poor Obama :)
I would really like to hear an explanation of such a stupid remark.
"Wherever morality is based on theology, wherever right is made dependent on divine authority, the most immoral, unjust, infamous things can be justified and established." -- Ludwig Feuerbach, The Essence of Christianity, 1841

"A bottle of wine contains more philosophy than all the books in the world" Louis Pasteur

"It is a truism that almost any sect, cult, or religion will legislate its creed into law if it acquires the political power to do so." -- Sir Arthur C. Clarke

dan foster

#52
February 07, 2010, 11:44:43 AM
"In other words: Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups.  ;)"

Yes, the teabaggers are a good example.
"Wherever morality is based on theology, wherever right is made dependent on divine authority, the most immoral, unjust, infamous things can be justified and established." -- Ludwig Feuerbach, The Essence of Christianity, 1841

"A bottle of wine contains more philosophy than all the books in the world" Louis Pasteur

"It is a truism that almost any sect, cult, or religion will legislate its creed into law if it acquires the political power to do so." -- Sir Arthur C. Clarke

Henry Hawk

#53
February 10, 2010, 11:58:39 AM
Here is an article that I support, along the recent SCOTUS decision...

http://www.cato-at-liberty.org/2010/02/02/when-individuals-form-corporations-they-dont-lose-their-rights/

if you even give a flip of my point of view... :razz:

I just read this and thought I would pass it on to those who want to know WHY?
"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."
Ecclesiastes 10:2 - It all makes sense to me now...


"The future ain't what it used to be."– Yogi Berra

"Square roots are rarely found on any plant." FTW

Exterminator

#54
February 10, 2010, 12:03:12 PM
Quote from: Y on February 03, 2010, 02:40:57 PM
Hank, since you appear to be the main one here - if not the only one - making the claim (and vehemently at that) the Supreme Court was correct in their ruling, I truly wish to hear your (not just a bunch of C/P links - except for evidence and NOT from the usual suspects, if you know what I mean) legal arguments that they arrived at the proper conclusion.

I told you so.   :razz:
Arguing with Christians is like playing chess with a pigeon.  No matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock over the pieces, shit on the board and strut around like it's victorious.

The truth is slow, but relentless. Over time it becomes irresistible.

Palehorse

#55
February 10, 2010, 02:08:33 PM
R.I.P. - followsthewolf - You are MISSED! 4/17/2013

That which fails to kill me. . .should run!

Any "point" made by one that lacks credibility, is only as useful as toilet paper; and serves the same purpose. ~ Palehorse 4/22/2017

May you find charity when it is needed, and the ability to extend it when it is not. ~Palehorse 7/4/2012

To the last, I grapple with thee; From Hell's heart, I stab at thee; For hate's sake, I spit my last breath at thee.~Herman Melville

Y

#56
February 11, 2010, 04:45:18 PM
Quote from: Exterminator on February 10, 2010, 12:03:12 PM
I told you so.   :razz:

I know.  One of these days I have to stop being the eternal optimist. 
©  Whamma-Jamma - all rights reserved

Law of Logical Argument - Anything is possible if you don't know what you are talking about.  ;)

"You've probably noticed that opinion pollsters go out of their way to include as many morons as possible in surveys ... I think it's dangerous to inform morons about what their fellow morons are thinking. It only reinforces their opinions. And the one thing worse than a moron with an opinion is lots of them." -- Scott Adams

In other words: Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups.  ;)

"It is difficult to get a man to understand something when his salary depends upon his not understanding it." -- Upton Sinclair

"Hitler is gone, but if the majority of our fellow citizens are more susceptible to the slogans of fear and race hatred than to those of peaceful accommodation and mutual respect among human beings, our political liberties remain at the mercy of any eloquent and unscrupulous demagogue." -- S. I. Hayakawa

Y

#57
February 11, 2010, 04:49:30 PM
Quote from: Henry Hawk on February 10, 2010, 11:58:39 AM
Here is an article that I support, along the recent SCOTUS decision...

http://www.cato-at-liberty.org/2010/02/02/when-individuals-form-corporations-they-dont-lose-their-rights/

if you even give a flip of my point of view... :razz:

I just read this and thought I would pass it on to those who want to know WHY?

Hank, what is the matter with you?  Can't you even tell from the title of that link/article that it's BS/propaganda?

I mean, really.  You can't look at this:

"When Individuals Form Corporations, They Don't Lose Their Rights"

...and see the problem with their premise?

You know I like you, but good grief!
©  Whamma-Jamma - all rights reserved

Law of Logical Argument - Anything is possible if you don't know what you are talking about.  ;)

"You've probably noticed that opinion pollsters go out of their way to include as many morons as possible in surveys ... I think it's dangerous to inform morons about what their fellow morons are thinking. It only reinforces their opinions. And the one thing worse than a moron with an opinion is lots of them." -- Scott Adams

In other words: Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups.  ;)

"It is difficult to get a man to understand something when his salary depends upon his not understanding it." -- Upton Sinclair

"Hitler is gone, but if the majority of our fellow citizens are more susceptible to the slogans of fear and race hatred than to those of peaceful accommodation and mutual respect among human beings, our political liberties remain at the mercy of any eloquent and unscrupulous demagogue." -- S. I. Hayakawa

Henry Hawk

#58
February 11, 2010, 04:53:41 PM
So you just stopped with the title?...........and BANG! it's propaganda?

Did you actually read it or just assumed it to be another Big Business propaganda story?...

THIS is what cracks me up....there is NO amount of ANYTHING, that I could provide that will EVER convince any of you to think any differently....your minds are made up.

but, when someone on the RIGHT is strong opinionated...they are mere victims of propaganda..
"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."
Ecclesiastes 10:2 - It all makes sense to me now...


"The future ain't what it used to be."– Yogi Berra

"Square roots are rarely found on any plant." FTW

followsthewolf

#59
February 11, 2010, 04:56:20 PM
Corporations don't have human rights.

Otherwise, Ford would have been convicted of  premeditated murder for the Pinto scandal.
Ignorance and fanaticism are ravenous. They require constant feeding.
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