The Supreme Court Is Wrong!

[Locutus]

it comes down to simply acting according to our Constitution....McCain/Fiengold was constitutionally wrong...and it go revoked...period.

that is the pros and cons of this issue.....the scotus did what was right.

I reiterate. 

------V

Henry, I'd love to hear just one cogent explanation as to how this decision by the SCOTUS benefits you, me, the members of the forum, and the American people.  Please tell me how this decision, which extends corporate influence into the political process of this country can possibly benefit you or anyone else.

Please show me just once that you can weigh the pros and cons of an issue such as this. 

What are the pros of having unbridled corporate influence into elections in this country? 

[followsthewolf]

See Rollerball with James Caan (1975)

[Exterminator]

There are no words to describe the absolute ignorance displayed in this thread.

[Palehorse]

There are words, but most of us would be chastised for using them! 

[Sandy Eggo]

Snobs! *sob sob*

[dan foster]

so that makes it okay for our government to stifle a company from spending it's money what THEY think is not fair...such as GM or Ford endorsing a candidate, but yet it is okay for the Media (MSNBC or FOX) to do the same thing?...

I think the law that was overturned was a bad law in the first place.....

Actually,  I don't particularly like ANY corporations or unions as far as that goes, to tell us who or who we cannot voter for.........but I like it even less that our government is telling us what we can and cannot say! 

You really are a fucking moron.  You really do suck beck for your ideas and philosophy.  The tobacco industry lied to the American people for years about the hazards of smoking, but you would defend their right to do so as free speech, wouldn't you?  Corporations have NO INDIVIDUAL RIGHTS under our Constitution and you are dumber than I thought you were in defending them as having any.  We got 8 years of bush because trailer trash such as yourself thought he was out for YOU, while sucking this country dry of it's wealth right into the hands of corporations because YOU think they have that right, as well. 

It is easy to understand your ignorance.  Your religion is just a symptom of it.  You are easily swayed into the conservative ideals which is only a cover for making their rich friends even richer on the backs of the middle class.  Funny thing is; they wouldn't even let you clean their pool, let alone have YOUR best interests in mind.  One has to be born into the wealth that controls this country and they are the friends of the corporate wealth that you think has RIGHTS.  Absolutely fucking sad and a sign there is little hope for the future of this country.  You represent too many, uneducated, moronic tools that salivate like a Pavlovian dog at the very terms "conservative", "god and country", "glen beck's on", ...

[Exterminator]

A point that Henry seems to be missing here is that this opens the door for foreign interests to influence our electoral process.  Congratulations!   

[dan foster]

You really are an f'in moron.  You really do suck beck for your ideas and philosophy.  The tobacco industry lied to the American people for years about the hazards of smoking, but you would defend their right to do so as free speech, wouldn't you?  Corporations have NO INDIVIDUAL RIGHTS under our Constitution and you are dumber than I thought you were in defending them as having any.  We got 8 years of bush because trailer trash such as yourself thought he was out for YOU, while sucking this country dry of it's wealth right into the hands of corporations because YOU think they have that right, as well. 

It is easy to understand your ignorance.  Your religion is just a symptom of it.  You are easily swayed into the conservative ideals which is only a cover for making their rich friends even richer on the backs of the middle class.  Funny thing is; they wouldn't even let you clean their pool, let alone have YOUR best interests in mind.  One has to be born into the wealth that controls this country and they are the friends of the corporate wealth that you think has RIGHTS.  Absolutely f'in sad and a sign there is little hope for the future of this country.  You represent too many, uneducated, moronic tools that salivate like a Pavlovian dog at the very terms "conservative", "god and country", "glen beck's on", ...

Sorry for the language, but this strikes at the heart of the problems we face in this country; an ignorant electorate.

[Palehorse]

The sad part is this decision has only put the problem on steroids; what this does is guarantee that the problem now is going to be an even bigger problem for decades to come.

Interestingly enough the media, also part of corporate Amerika, is also drawing the lines of separation between themselves and their customers, by supporting this crap and furthering their own interests. And the sheeple bleat and follow their masters. (I say masters because now you have millions of them in the guise of the major corporations that are going to dictate your future).

It is bad enough when a corporation tramples all over your individual and constitutionally protected rights, and there isn't a damned thing you can do about it because the law says that constitutional rights are not protected from major corporations. They are not applicable because corporations are not subject to the constitution. (As happened to me here recently) But now it would seem the SCOTUS is saying that simultaneously corporations are protected and granted these rights even though they do not have to abide by them? Bullshit! You cannot have your cake and eat it too. If the protections apply to them then so does the responsibility to abide by them!

If I could find a lawyer with large enough balls, and had a small fortune to waste. . . but the fact is I don't; and THAT is the problem. Most of us don't. And the only ones that do are major corporations!

[dan foster]

The sad part is this decision has only put the problem on steroids; what this does is guarantee that the problem now is going to be an even bigger problem for decades to come.

Interestingly enough the media, also part of corporate Amerika, is also drawing the lines of separation between themselves and their customers, by supporting this crap and furthering their own interests. And the sheeple bleat and follow their masters. (I say masters because now you have millions of them in the guise of the major corporations that are going to dictate your future).

It is bad enough when a corporation tramples all over your individual and constitutionally protected rights, and there isn't a damned thing you can do about it because the law says that constitutional rights are not protected from major corporations. They are not applicable because corporations are not subject to the constitution. (As happened to me here recently) But now it would seem the SCOTUS is saying that simultaneously corporations are protected and granted these rights even though they do not have to abide by them? Bullshit! You cannot have your cake and eat it too. If the protections apply to them then so does the responsibility to abide by them!

If I could find a lawyer with large enough balls, and had a small fortune to waste. . . but the fact is I don't; and THAT is the problem. Most of us don't. And the only ones that do are major corporations!

...only the ACLU has the balls, but they don't have enough money.  I give when I can.

[followsthewolf]

Well, somebody could just go out and shoot those who are lobbying for major corporations.

[Palehorse]

Well, somebody could just go out and shoot those who are lobbying for major corporations.

There isn't enough ammo. . .

[followsthewolf]

And the number of major lobbyists is about to increase exponentially.

[Palehorse]

I expect a big sign to be erected at the boarders and upon the statue of liberty saying:

"Welcome to The United States of America, Inc."
Brought to you by XYZ LLP, Inc. The official sponsor of The USA, Inc.

[Sandy Eggo]