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[Henry Hawk]

BTW, your arrogant attitude that the whole country is based on and here to serve Christians is exactly the problem that people like me have with your religious beliefs.  That you simultaneously attempt to prove that our rule of law is based on your bible and say you're not trying to shove your beliefs down the rest of our throats is bullshit.

Exterminator...if I am coming across as arrogant, then i honestly do apologize....and it is NOT my motivation to prove that the whole country is based on and here to serve Christians...because I do NOT believe that myself for one minute....I am being defensive, because I am tired of everyone saying that God was NOT an important aspect in our forefathers daily lives....and it is tit for tat on WHOSE GOD we are talking about..that can be argued a different day...I'm saying that these guys believed that religion WAS very important in their governing affairs and in peoples daily lives....and I have proved that....

again IF, you honestly feel I am trying to shove Christianity down your throat or anyone Else's here....I will gladly STOP!

[Palehorse]

Why don't you just replace the word "god" with "allah" in this thread moving forward? (just for giggles.) See how that sits. . .

[Henry Hawk]

Why don't you just replace the word "god" with "allah" in this thread moving forward? (just for giggles.) See how that sits. . .

if that is what it takes...okay

[Henry Hawk]

 

[Exterminator]

Isn't it about time for you to head downtown so you and your fellow neocon sheep can teabag each other?   

[Henry Hawk]

Isn't it about time for you to head downtown so you and your fellow neocon sheep can teabag each other?   

naw, that is not until 4:30.....a great day in American history!!!!...

so are you going to reply to my last post?....I honestly think I have made valid points.

[Exterminator]

naw, that is not until 4:30.....a great day in American history!!!!...

It's a laughable day in American history but just goes to show how easily led gullible people are by a rant from some numb-nuts loud-mouth like Rush Limbaugh or Rick Santelli (from CNBC...isn't that part of the 'liberal' media you're always going on about?). 

At least you don't dispute that the purpose of the event is teabagging.   

so are you going to reply to my last post?....I honestly think I have made valid points.

There were no inquiries in your last post.

[Henry Hawk]

It's a laughable day in American history but just goes to show how easily led gullible people are by a rant from some numb-nuts loud-mouth like Ruch Limbaugh or Rick Santelli (from CNBC...isn't that part of the 'liberal' media you're always going on about?). 

At least you don't dispute that the purpose of the event is teabagging.   

There were no inquiries in your last post.

this is a grassroots campaign...and it is NOT just a right-wing ordeal....it is for ANYBODY tired of the wreckless spending in Washington....and I assure you....there will be NO TEABAGGING going on... (a very sick mind you have)...

and I was referring to my last post..to you!...

btw...it's Rush...not Ruch..

[Exterminator]

this is a grassroots campaign...and it is NOT just a right-wing ordeal....it is for ANYBODY tired of the wreckless spending in Washington...

Bullshit.  And I'm right across the street from there and think it's hysterical to see how much money they're spending to protest how much money is being spent.

...and I assure you....there will be NO TEABAGGING going on... (a very sick mind you have)...

Are you sure because I'm pretty sure I just saw Larry Craig over there.

[Henry Hawk]

Bullshit.  And I'm right across the street from there and think it's hysterical to see how much money they're spending to protest how much money is being spent.

Are you sure because I'm pretty sure I just saw Larry Craig over there.

but it is NOT the TAXPAYERS dollars being spent!!!...and THIS is about as grassroots as it gets...and they are expecting about 8,000 people to attend.

and I think you need to get a hold of Barney Frank for the kind of teabag that you seem so interested about...

[Exterminator]

but it is NOT the TAXPAYERS dollars being spent!!!...and THIS is about as grassroots as it gets...and they are expecting about 8,000 people to attend.

Grassroots, hayseed...it's all the same. 

[Henry Hawk]

so i ask...it seems nobody can answer my question....but in 1800, Congress enacted naval regulations requiring that Divine service be performed twice every day aboard `all ships and vessels in the navy,' with a sermon preached each Sunday...it think that this very congress, who was very in tune to how our Constitution works....would find it okay IF the military wanted to sponser a Boy Scout event, without disrupting 'religious freedom or infrindging upon our constitution..'...

[Exterminator]

Continue to take things out of context and spin them to mean whatever you'd like, Henry.  And BTW, you keep telling us how your source is the Library of Congress but your 'proof' can be found all over the internet on right-wing sites, almost verbatim and presented in exactly the same order as you present it.  Coincidence?  Do you really think we're all that freakin' stupid?

[Palehorse]

so i ask...it seems nobody can answer my question....but in 1800, Congress enacted naval regulations requiring that Divine service be performed twice every day aboard `all ships and vessels in the navy,' with a sermon preached each Sunday...it think that this very congress, who was very in tune to how our Constitution works....would find it okay IF the military wanted to sponser a Boy Scout event, without disrupting 'religious freedom or infrindging upon our constitution..'...

And they still employ nonsecular Chaplin's in most branches of the military as a "service" to the military membership; much as I am sure these "iconic and precedent setting" moments in history were meant throughout history. (Toward the citizens of this new country back then).

Why did they include "In God We Trust" on currency when our founding fathers targeted the ideal of total separation of church and state?
ANSWER: In earlier times when society was more gullible and innocent, as was the government, it was never thought of as being against the Constitution. Back in those days we didn't have a virtual cornucopia of religions to deal with in this country either, and the population was not as diverse. (For a very long time the only people voting were white males, including at the start so factor that into your logic as well.)

Times change, society changes, and with it the importance of adhering to those attributes as they were set back then. With the growth of religions, cultures, and society in general, came the magnification of conflicts within current practices and the intent of the founding documentation; and religion is a big one these days bucko.

Our money doesn't say in Muhammad we trust or In Allah we trust, or in the bleeding chicken we trust, so it has to come off of there.

Any endorsement, display, or action that can be interpreted as supportive of one religion over another is discriminatory in nature and libels the government. You're so hot to stop the financial bleeding, how yah going to feel when followers of the grunting pig religion successfully sue the government for a cool billion over religious discrimination because we displayed the sweet baby jeebus nativity on the capital grounds and not the wallowing pig?

And the BSA cannot be sponsored because THEY exercise religious and racial discrimination on a regular basis! How you gonna feel when the Abdul ah and Abdel successfully sue the government to the tune of a cool billion over the fact that they financially sponsored an entity that repeatedly infringed upon their right to religious freedom?

Now get the BSA to drop the religious dogma and all that goes away. Simple really.

The law is the law, and it must be followed.

[me]

There is one problem with your examples PH that I can see.  God is all inclusive and we are talking USA and citizens not immigrants or illegals rights.  No other country gives up their heritage for another countries or do they give a rats ass about it.  When you are in their country you adapt to their ways or don't stay if you don't like it they don't change to suit you.