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Started by Mom, January 05, 2009, 07:19:26 PM

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dan foster

Quote from: awol on January 21, 2009, 08:58:56 PM
someone needs a timeout! ;D

seriously, if you are letting this affect your health, you might wanna step back from it for a while, dan.

i did for a couple weeks, posted only fluff for a while, and now i feel rejuvinated.


hookt on foniks werkt fer mee.

No worries.   :smile:
"Wherever morality is based on theology, wherever right is made dependent on divine authority, the most immoral, unjust, infamous things can be justified and established." -- Ludwig Feuerbach, The Essence of Christianity, 1841

"A bottle of wine contains more philosophy than all the books in the world" Louis Pasteur

"It is a truism that almost any sect, cult, or religion will legislate its creed into law if it acquires the political power to do so." -- Sir Arthur C. Clarke

Doc

Quote from: Exterminator on January 21, 2009, 07:42:59 AM
:rolleyes:  I wouldn't expect anyone who believes that to be able to create a complete sentence and you didn't disappoint.

What do you mean...you say below that Bush already won those wars?

Which two...the one in Iraq that is ongoing or the one in Afghanistan in which the Taliban currently control over 70% of the country?  Were there others?

OMFG!  You'd better go hide; quick!   :eek:

You are kidding me! There has not been an attack on our soil since 9-11. That attack was planned and put together under the watchful eye of Bungling Bill Clinton and addled algore. I don't expect this democrap to be any better.


Doc

Quote from: dan foster on January 21, 2009, 08:41:36 PM
You join the ranks of right wingers as one of the funiest I have seen, beyond the oreallys and manity's.  To claim those "liberals" were wanting terrorist attacks is just about as outrageous as one can get.  Bush was the least learned president to take office.  Now, please, go join the other 19 percenters that think he was "a nice guy" and leave the actual running of THIS new democracy to the smart people that won.

Might I point out that bush actually lost both Afghanistan and Iraq, not to mention the rest of the world.

Completely irresponsible. If Bill Clinton had even a fraction of the conviction of George Bush, we probably wouldn't have been attacked on 9/11 because he would have taken the fight to the terrorists after the first WTC bombing. What would the country be like today if we hadn't had to live through 9/11, the hundreds of billions it cost us, the war in Iraq. Just think about it....people like to call Bush an idiot, when they should really be pointing the finger at Clinton. Not to mention that Clinton's forced legislation and strong arming the lending institutions into giving mortgages to people who have no business borrowing money is the root of what got us into the Mortgage Crisis which is not a total economic fiasco. So, say what you want about Bush....you moron, it's miss guided and irresponsible. Just shut up and be happy you have had someone protecting you these past 7 years.....and that it wasn't Bill Clinton.

Exterminator

Quote from: Doc on January 22, 2009, 11:21:58 PM
You are kidding me! There has not been an attack on our soil since 9-11. That attack was planned and put together under the watchful eye of Bungling Bill Clinton and addled algore. I don't expect this democrap to be any better.

There have been plenty of attacks on our soil since 9/11, granted, not by Al Queda but a student shooting up a college or someone shooting up a shopping mall is proof positive that nothing can ever be done to prevent terrorist type attacks.

As far as your contention that the 9/11 attack was planned and put together during Clinton's tenure, you are partially correct.  Planning did start in 1999 but pretending that everything was in place prior to Bush taking office is nothing short of dishonest and the level of activity and "chatter" would have been significantly higher (ergo, significantly more detectable) in the months leading up to the attack.  In fact, that date wasn't even chosen until 3 weeks prior to the attack and the plane tickets weren't purchased until two weeks beforehand.  The specifics of the plan were hashed out while Bush was in office and he had prior knowledge; the responsibility for failing to act falls squarely on his shoulders.
Arguing with Christians is like playing chess with a pigeon.  No matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock over the pieces, shit on the board and strut around like it's victorious.

The truth is slow, but relentless. Over time it becomes irresistible.

Exterminator

Quote from: Doc on January 22, 2009, 11:49:03 PM
Completely irresponsible. If Bill Clinton had even a fraction of the conviction of George Bush, we probably wouldn't have been attacked on 9/11 because he would have taken the fight to the terrorists after the first WTC bombing.

Ridiculous.  It isn't as though there are people wandering around wearing "I'm a terrorist" t-shirts making them easy to identify.  Willingness to act without listening to advisors or considering consequences is not conviction; it's stupidity.

QuoteWhat would the country be like today if we hadn't had to live through 9/11, the hundreds of billions it cost us, the war in Iraq.

A lot richer.

QuoteJust think about it....people like to call Bush an idiot...

Because Bush is an idiot although I'm sure he seems like a pretty smart guy to you.

QuoteSo, say what you want about Bush....you moron, it's miss guided and irresponsible.

Classic...an illiterate who can't even spell 'misguided' calling someone else a moron. 


Arguing with Christians is like playing chess with a pigeon.  No matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock over the pieces, shit on the board and strut around like it's victorious.

The truth is slow, but relentless. Over time it becomes irresistible.

dan foster

Quote from: Doc on January 22, 2009, 11:49:03 PM
Completely irresponsible. If Bill Clinton had even a fraction of the conviction of George Bush, we probably wouldn't have been attacked on 9/11 because he would have taken the fight to the terrorists after the first WTC bombing. What would the country be like today if we hadn't had to live through 9/11, the hundreds of billions it cost us, the war in Iraq. Just think about it....people like to call Bush an idiot, when they should really be pointing the finger at Clinton. Not to mention that Clinton's forced legislation and strong arming the lending institutions into giving mortgages to people who have no business borrowing money is the root of what got us into the Mortgage Crisis which is not a total economic fiasco. So, say what you want about Bush....you moron, it's miss guided and irresponsible. Just shut up and be happy you have had someone protecting you these past 7 years.....and that it wasn't Bill Clinton.

You really are funny.  9/11 was on Bush's watch, under the careful eye of his Nat'l Sec Advisor, Candy Rice.  They both missed the "bin laden determined to attack the US" in the intel briefs as neither one of them could read.

As for clinton; he did take the fight to bin laden with cruise missiles, Dr Dolt.
"Wherever morality is based on theology, wherever right is made dependent on divine authority, the most immoral, unjust, infamous things can be justified and established." -- Ludwig Feuerbach, The Essence of Christianity, 1841

"A bottle of wine contains more philosophy than all the books in the world" Louis Pasteur

"It is a truism that almost any sect, cult, or religion will legislate its creed into law if it acquires the political power to do so." -- Sir Arthur C. Clarke

dan foster

Quote from: Doc on January 22, 2009, 11:49:03 PM
Completely irresponsible. If Bill Clinton had even a fraction of the conviction of George Bush, we probably wouldn't have been attacked on 9/11 because he would have taken the fight to the terrorists after the first WTC bombing. What would the country be like today if we hadn't had to live through 9/11, the hundreds of billions it cost us, the war in Iraq. Just think about it....people like to call Bush an idiot, when they should really be pointing the finger at Clinton. Not to mention that Clinton's forced legislation and strong arming the lending institutions into giving mortgages to people who have no business borrowing money is the root of what got us into the Mortgage Crisis which is not a total economic fiasco. So, say what you want about Bush....you moron, it's miss guided and irresponsible. Just shut up and be happy you have had someone protecting you these past 7 years.....and that it wasn't Bill Clinton.

Do you write the news for Fox Noise?  I bet you are under the desk when Manity is on.
"Wherever morality is based on theology, wherever right is made dependent on divine authority, the most immoral, unjust, infamous things can be justified and established." -- Ludwig Feuerbach, The Essence of Christianity, 1841

"A bottle of wine contains more philosophy than all the books in the world" Louis Pasteur

"It is a truism that almost any sect, cult, or religion will legislate its creed into law if it acquires the political power to do so." -- Sir Arthur C. Clarke

Sandy Eggo

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WVaGAL

They have already started Sandy..Obama will be blamed for most of the mess that we are in..economy,the war etc.. :yes:

Quote from: Sandy Eggo on January 20, 2009, 03:23:15 PM
My prediction? That won't be the case. Next week, the same people who has been claiming that the shrub did a great job and everything is peachy-keen will be blaming Obama for the mess our country is in.
Learn to laugh at things..you'll live longer....Humor is a good thing...

me

Quote from: WVaGAL on January 27, 2009, 02:40:53 AM
They have already started Sandy..Obama will be blamed for most of the mess that we are in..economy,the war etc.. :yes:

Try the Democrapic Congress...same ones that have been there for the last two years screwing things up.
Trump 2020

Exterminator

Quote from: me on January 27, 2009, 04:09:24 AM
Try the Democrapic Congress...same ones that have been there for the last two years screwing things up.

People this dumb should not be allowed to vote.
Arguing with Christians is like playing chess with a pigeon.  No matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock over the pieces, shit on the board and strut around like it's victorious.

The truth is slow, but relentless. Over time it becomes irresistible.

Ghost of Jaco

Quote from: me on January 27, 2009, 04:09:24 AM
Try the Democrapic Congress...same ones that have been there for the last two years screwing things up.

You have a point there. Most of the time they are too busy racing to the nearest open microphone so they can hear themselves talk, for which I am grateful. Unfortunately, when they actually DO something it's, typically, exactly the wrong thing.
"I contend that we are both religious. I just believe in one more god than you do. When you understand why you believe that a spontaneous "big bang" created all of time, space, and matter out of nothing, you will understand why I believe in a creator." -GoJ

me

Quote from: Ghost of Jaco on January 27, 2009, 10:00:05 AM
You have a point there. Most of the time they are too busy racing to the nearest open microphone so they can hear themselves talk, for which I am grateful. Unfortunately, when they actually DO something it's, typically, exactly the wrong thing.

Like handing 12m over to Barney Franks.   :rolleyes:
Trump 2020

Ghost of Jaco

Quote from: me on January 27, 2009, 10:03:51 AM
Like handing 12m over to Barney Franks.   :rolleyes:
Hey, it takes a lot of money to keep homosexual prostitutes a secret!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barney_franks

Interesting info re: Franks, the Bush administration, and the Fannie Mae/Freddie Mac debacle at that url as well, btw.
"I contend that we are both religious. I just believe in one more god than you do. When you understand why you believe that a spontaneous "big bang" created all of time, space, and matter out of nothing, you will understand why I believe in a creator." -GoJ

Exterminator

Arguing with Christians is like playing chess with a pigeon.  No matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock over the pieces, shit on the board and strut around like it's victorious.

The truth is slow, but relentless. Over time it becomes irresistible.