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The Troll

Quote from: kimmi on July 29, 2010, 02:13:46 PM
Troll if you don't like smart people and you don't like poor people, who do you like?

  There you go again Me, oh I sorry, Kimmi,  a dumb question out of a smart mind.  Read back 7 posting from this one and read what I have to say about smart people.

  The people I dislike are stupid people with college degrees who get the first chance at good jobs be cause of that degree.  Like Brownie, "Good job Brownie" said by George W. about the dumbass in the Katrina disaster.  College degree, no brains.  Tony Hayward of BP, college degree, no brains in drilling for oil or safety.  Knowing how to make money and cut corners.  But not smart enough to know when to stop cutting corners and stop making stupid mistakes.

  And the people I absolutely hate, are authority figures that abuse that authority to gain more power and money for themselves.  Show me a authority figure and I'll show you a liar.  That's is a fact.

The Troll

  Hey, what's up.  I waiting for some more criticism.  Criticism for my racist views.  Criticism for my smart people feelings.  Criticism of my feeling of college educated people with degrees.  Criticism of my feeling on authority figures.

  Oh, one more thing I might be criticized for.  The white race here in the United States is now a minority.  We now have more Latinos than blacks and with the other races they have the white race out numbered.  How?  They out bred us.  The same thing would happen in Israel and Palestine if the two people were to be made into one country.  What do you think would happen to the Jews when they took power.  I don't think it would be good for the Jews.

  Come on, let's have more intelligent criticism.  What your coming up with isn't making sense.

Sandy Eggo

^ So?
Why should anyone care about race?
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The Troll

Quote from: Sandy Eggo on July 29, 2010, 09:11:45 PM
^ So?
Why should anyone care about race?

  "Me" said I was making racist remarks and you said the the smart would beat the strong.

  Hell, just read the posts about what I said and the answer I received.

dan foster

Quote from: The Troll on July 29, 2010, 09:35:56 PM
 

  "Me" said I was making racist remarks and you said the the smart would beat the strong.

  Hell, just read the posts about what I said and the answer I received.

There are plenty of educated idiots; bush (w, shrub, et al) had degrees from yale and harvard and was the dumbest president that ever held the office (orifice).
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me

Quote from: dan foster on July 31, 2010, 10:10:34 PM
There are plenty of educated idiots; bush (w, shrub, et al) had degrees from yale and harvard and was the dumbest president that ever held the office (orifice).
No, that would have been Carter. 
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The Troll

Quote from: me on August 01, 2010, 02:16:45 AM
No, that would have been Carter.

   Carter would not appeared bad if it wasn't for Paul Volcker raising interest 29%, the way he did.

  If George W. would have had Volcker instead of Greenspan.   He would have been a one term president.  Greenspan keep lowering the interest, keeping the Republicans looking good.  He knew he was doing wrong.  He admitted that, after he retired.

  This lowering of the interest rates lead to the realestate bubble burst and the robbing of the American middle class.

  I just have to laugh when I think of all the dumbasses that voted for George W.  twice.  :rotfl:  :rotfl:  As the young people would say to day.  "That's just plain sick". :sick: :puke:

Palehorse

Russians are not used to heat waves. When the high temperatures that have overwhelmed Russia over the past six weeks first arrived in June, some 1,200 Russians drowned at the country's beaches. "The majority of those who drowned were drunk," the Emergencies Ministry concluded in mid-July, citing the Russian habit of taking vodka to cool off by the sea. But while overconsumption of vodka is a familiar scourge in Russia, extreme heat is not, and as the worst heat wave on record spawns wildfires that are destroying entire villages, Russian officials have made what for them is a startling admission: global warming is very real.
At a meeting of international sporting officials in Moscow on July 30, Russian President Dmitri Medvedev announced that in 14 regions of the country, "practically everything is burning. The weather is anomalously hot." Then, as TV cameras zoomed in on the perspiration shining on his forehead, Medvedev announced, "What's happening with the planet's climate right now needs to be a wake-up call to all of us, meaning all heads of state, all heads of social organizations, in order to take a more energetic approach to countering the global changes to the climate.". . .


http://www.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,2008081,00.html?hpt=T2

Well. . . if the Russians are waking up to the fact, how long do you think it is going to take the rest of the world???
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me

Would that be why it was just cooler than normal in northern Cal last week?  Global warming I mean.
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Exterminator

I know this'll be difficult for you to wrap you little brain around but sometimes the effects of global warming cause lower than usual temperatures from cooler water resulting from ice melt off in the arctic.
Arguing with Christians is like playing chess with a pigeon.  No matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock over the pieces, shit on the board and strut around like it's victorious.

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me

Quote from: Exterminator on August 03, 2010, 04:19:24 PM
I know this'll be difficult for you to wrap you little brain around but sometimes the effects of global warming cause lower than usual temperatures from cooler water resulting from ice melt off in the arctic.
Wonder what caused the ice age....must have been pretty warm in some places according to that line of thinking. 
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Palehorse

Quote from: me on August 03, 2010, 05:09:05 PM
Wonder what caused the ice age....must have been pretty warm in some places according to that line of thinking.

You really should have paid a bit more attention in Earth Science. . .
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me

Quote from: Palehorse on August 03, 2010, 06:00:53 PM
You really should have paid a bit more attention in Earth Science. . .
Probably dinosaur dung pollutin' the atmosphere.  I know it couldn't have just been a cycle of the weather 'cause that don't happen. 
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Palehorse

Quote from: me on August 03, 2010, 07:59:46 PM
Probably dinosaur dung pollutin' the atmosphere.  I know it couldn't have just been a cycle of the weather 'cause that don't happen.

Global climate is determined by the radiation balance of the planet (see FAQ 1.1). There are three fundamental ways the Earth's radiation balance can change, thereby causing a climate change: (1) changing the incoming solar radiation (e.g., by changes in the Earth's orbit or in the Sun itself), (2) changing the fraction of solar radiation that is reflected (this fraction is called the albedo – it can be changed, for example, by changes in cloud cover, small particles called aerosols or land cover), and (3) altering the long- wave energy radiated back to space (e.g., by changes in green- house gas concentrations). In addition, local climate also depends on how heat is distributed by winds and ocean currents. All of these factors have played a role in past climate changes.
Starting with the ice ages that have come and gone in regu- lar cycles for the past nearly three million years, there is strong evidence that these are linked to regular variations in the Earth's orbit around the Sun, the so-called Milankovitch cycles (Figure 1). These cycles change the amount of solar radiation received at each latitude in each season (but hardly affect the global annual mean), and they can be calculated with astronomical precision. There is still some discussion about how exactly this starts and ends ice ages, but many studies suggest that the amount of sum- mer sunshine on northern continents is crucial: if it drops below a critical value, snow from the past winter does not melt away in summer and an ice sheet starts to grow as more and more snow accumulates. Climate model simulations confirm that an Ice Age can indeed be started in this way, while simple conceptual models have been used to successfully 'hindcast' the onset of past glacia- tions based on the orbital changes. The next large reduction in northern summer insolation, similar to those that started past Ice Ages, is due to begin in 30,000 years.
Although it is not their primary cause, atmospheric carbon di- oxide (CO2) also plays an important role in the ice ages. Antarctic ice core data show that CO2 concentration is low in the cold gla- cial times (~190 ppm), and high in the warm interglacials (~280 ppm); atmospheric CO2 follows temperature changes in Antarctica with a lag of some hundreds of years. Because the climate changes at the beginning and end of ice ages take several thousand years,
FAQ 6.1, Figure 1. Schematic of the Earth's orbital changes (Milankovitch cycles) that drive the ice age cycles. 'T' denotes changes in the tilt (or obliquity) of the Earth's axis, 'E' denotes changes in the eccentricity of the orbit (due to variations in the minor axis of the ellipse), and 'P' denotes precession, that is, changes in the direction of the axis tilt at a given point of the orbit. Source: Rahmstorf and Schellnhuber (2006).
most of these changes are affected by a positive CO2 feedback; that is, a small initial cooling due to the Milankovitch cycles is subsequently amplified as the CO2 concentration falls. Model sim- ulations of ice age climate (see discussion in Section 6.4.1) yield realistic results only if the role of CO2 is accounted for.
During the last ice age, over 20 abrupt and dramatic climate shifts occurred that are particularly prominent in records around the northern Atlantic (see Section 6.4). These differ from the gla- cial-interglacial cycles in that they probably do not involve large changes in global mean temperature: changes are not synchro- nous in Greenland and Antarctica, and they are in the opposite direction in the South and North Atlantic. This means that a major change in global radiation balance would not have been needed to cause these shifts; a redistribution of heat within the climate system would have sufficed. There is indeed strong evidence that changes in ocean circulation and heat transport can explain many features of these abrupt events; sediment data and model simula- tions show that some of these changes could have been triggered by instabilities in the ice sheets surrounding the Atlantic at the time, and the associated freshwater release into the ocean.
Much warmer times have also occurred in climate history – during most of the past 500 million years, Earth was probably completely free of ice sheets (geologists can tell from the marks ice leaves on rock), unlike today, when Greenland and Antarc- tica are ice-covered. Data on greenhouse gas abundances going back beyond a million years, that is, beyond the reach of antarc- tic ice cores, are still rather uncertain, but analysis of geological
(continued). . .

http://oceanservice.noaa.gov/education/pd/climate/factsheets/whatcause.pdf
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(CNN) -- A piece of ice four times the size of Manhattan island has broken away from an ice shelf in Greenland, according to scientists in the U.S.
The 260 square-kilometer (100 square miles) ice island separated from the Petermann Glacier in northern Greenland early on Thursday, researchers based at the University of Delaware said.
The ice island, which is about half the height of the Empire State Building, is the biggest piece of ice to break away from the Arctic icecap since 1962 and amounts to a quarter of the Petermann 70-kilometer floating ice shelf, according to research leader Andreas Muenchow. . .

. . .Environmentalists say ice melt is being caused by global warming with Arctic temperatures in the 1990s reaching their warmest level of any decade in at least 2,000 years, according to a study published in 2009.. . .


http://www.cnn.com/2010/WORLD/americas/08/07/greenland.ice.island/index.html?hpt=T1

Naw. . . its not gettin warmer!  :rolleyes:

Wonder if you will be thinking about Al Gore when you are frying in your house like a piece of bacon???? :angel:
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Any "point" made by one that lacks credibility, is only as useful as toilet paper; and serves the same purpose. ~ Palehorse 4/22/2017

May you find charity when it is needed, and the ability to extend it when it is not. ~Palehorse 7/4/2012

To the last, I grapple with thee; From Hell's heart, I stab at thee; For hate's sake, I spit my last breath at thee.~Herman Melville