Global Warming

[The Troll]

Dan, that picture just about makes me sick.  I was reading about old Lonesome Roads Beck.  It showed a Goggle air view of his $4.5 million house with a 8 foot concrete wall around it and and big iron gate.

  Did you see the YouTube where they were putting Vick Salve under his eyes.  It was taking a little time to build up some tears.  He told the woman who was putting Vick's on his cheeks.  "I'm almost getting use to this stuff."  What a fraud and phony sham.  Just think there are two people on this forum what worship him.  We know who it is.  I won't mention any names.  

   Try to find so great Democrat's picture that would make these people sick.  Make them

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[dan foster]

I can't help but find myself simply not trusting this whole thing when folks such as Al Gore and his Generation Investment Management (GIM) is worth close to 4 Billion dollars....and the IPCC, sponsored by the UN, (another group I distrust)....it IS politcally motivated and would love nothing more than to cripple Big Oil companies...

Big oil needs to be crippled.  We need to move on from our oil empire, or be left behind.  China leads the world in renewable energy; technologies and resources.  They WILL replace us with a renewable energy empire, as we replaced the UK coal empire, as they replaced the Dutch wind/water empire.  But, as we all know; the only lesson learned from history is that no one learns the lessons of history...

[dan foster]

I can't help but find myself simply not trusting this whole thing when folks such as Al Gore and his Generation Investment Management (GIM) is worth close to 4 Billion dollars....and the IPCC, sponsored by the UN, (another group I distrust)....it IS politcally motivated and would love nothing more than to cripple Big Oil companies...

Here ya go, hank. 

[dan foster]

because the scientist YOU relied on admitted to hiding evidence and tampering with data.......why SHOULD I believe them?

there are plenty of significant information that leads me to my stance on this....

here is another very good article that supports WHY I have taken my stance...

http://www.heritage.org/Research/Reports/2010/04/EPAs-Global-Warming-Regulations-A-Threat-to-American-Agriculture

This seems to fit your online referencing capabilities.  Sorry.

[The Troll]

Poor socialist France generates over 80% of their electricity with nuclear energy.  But here in a America the big chickens are afraid of it.  Just how do you deal with that.

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[Anne]

They need to talk to someone who actually works at a nuke power plant. So much wrong information out there about storing the waste, etc.It takes years to get permits to build a new plant the the waiting list for the parts (reactor chamber etc) is years long. If we started today and had all the permits in hand it would be 20-30 years to build enough plants to replace fossil fueled electricity.

[Henry Hawk]

only because our land is loaded with liberal lawyers who hold up the process with lawsuits and appeals just to get permits.....people bitch about big oil...but I say crooked, money grubbing lawyers are just, if not more, destructable to this great nation...they are screwing us hard working americans, while THEY get richer and richer, and stopping REAL progress from happening.... at least that is my 2 cents worth.

[Anne]

If you ever want to see a good presentation of how nuclear power actually works, the power plant near Clemson, SC has a visitor ccenter that I think is free that is very nice. The area where they discharge their cooling water (no it is not radioactive) keeps that area of the lake warm and it has excellent fishing in the winter. The plant in Crystal River FL attracts baby manatees in the winter because of the warm water around the plant.

[The Troll]

They need to talk to someone who actually works at a nuke power plant. So much wrong information out there about storing the waste, etc.It takes years to get permits to build a new plant the the waiting list for the parts (reactor chamber etc) is years long. If we started today and had all the permits in hand it would be 20-30 years to build enough plants to replace fossil fueled electricity.

   Anne, we got to start some where, in the past when we got the first one built. they seem to come a lot faster.  In World War II,  Kaiser was building one Liberty ship a month in one ship yard.  Before the war was over, they were building, in that same ship yard, one a day.

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[Anne]

I agree, we should be building them now, the trick is to get the government and the people to allow it. It won't be a quick fix and it doesn't address planes, trains, and automobiles (sorry couldn't help myself) but it needs to be done. The administration, both this one and the last, seem to turn to jelly everytime someone mentions nuclear power like it was some kind of death sentence.

[dan foster]

They need to talk to someone who actually works at a nuke power plant. So much wrong information out there about storing the waste, etc.It takes years to get permits to build a new plant the the waiting list for the parts (reactor chamber etc) is years long. If we started today and had all the permits in hand it would be 20-30 years to build enough plants to replace fossil fueled electricity.

It will take a long time to get a return on building, but its the same amount of time we will get from increased drilling.  We need to do both, for national security reasons, but for the environment and our future, we need to have a 10yr "moon-shot" type approach to eliminate all imported energy needs, especially oil.  We don't need to drill and burn MORE oil, we need to eliminate it from our energy resource pool and that will take a bold, 10yr plan to replace all oil/coal consumption with renewable energy sources.  Otherwise, it won't matter how much we drill, or how many nuclear plants are constructed; whether by global warming/catastrophic failure or from armegeddon (not the biblical one, but the potential all out war we tend to make on each other) brought on by fighting over oil from the middle east.

[Palehorse]

One of the many cultural shocks I was dealt when I moved from Illinois to Indiana, was the fact that Indiana still generates electricity with coal. . . I found that fact to be unbelievable considering the fact that Illinois has a number of nuclear generating stations.

Each one of them has a cooling lake or lakes as mentioned above, and I have personally fished many of them. Dresden, Byron, Heidke Lake, Braidwood, LaSalle, and Clinton, and these plants generate 48% of all the electricity used in the state each year.

Indiana has one that I am aware of, (Turtle Creek) that is near Terra Haute. I've fished that one as well.

All of these facilities have some of the best year round fishing I have experienced outside of the great states of Wisconsin and Minnesota.

[Anne]

Want to bet there are people wou there who wouldn't eat those fish because they are probably radioactive and you can get radiation poison from them?

[Palehorse]

Want to bet there are people wou there who wouldn't eat those fish because they are probably radioactive and you can get radiation poison from them?

Thats alright. More for me! 

[The Troll]

Want to bet there are people wou there who wouldn't eat those fish because they are probably radioactive and you can get radiation poison from them?