Global Warming

[Exterminator]

LMFAO!  Is anyone erally stupid enough to believe thsi bullshit?

[Bo D]

LMFAO!  Is anyone erally stupid enough to believe thsi bullshit?

Evidently! 

And what exactly are Lord Christopher Monckton's qualifications?

Reporter?
Lead writer?
Editor of a tabloid?
Secretary?

He has "referred to himself as a "peer of the House of Lords" but is not a member of that body. In fact, when he ran for election to the House of Lords, he got NO VOTES! 

[Henry Hawk]

http://wattsupwiththat.com/2010/03/31/arctic-sea-ice-about-to-hit-normal-what-will-the-news-say/#more-17970

Arctic sea ice grows back to 'normal' for first time since 2001...[/font][/b]

By Steven Goddard and Anthony Watts

Barring an about face by nature or adjustments, it appears that for the first time since 2001, Arctic Sea ice will hit the "normal" line as defined by the National Snow and Ice Data Center (NSIDC) for this time of year.
NSIDC puts out an article about once a month called the Sea Ice News.  It generally highlights any bad news they can find about the disappearance of Arctic ice.  Last month's news led with this sentence.

In February, Arctic sea ice extent continued to track below the average, and near the levels observed for February 2007.

But March brought good news for the Polar Bears, and bad news for the Catlin Expedition and any others looking for bad news.  Instead of ice extent declining through March like it usually does, it continued to increase through the month and is now at the high (so far) for the year.

[Bo D]

For goodness sakes, Henry. Yet another report from a TV weatherman, who readily admits on the site you linked to - "I'm not a degreed climate scientist" and he does this "just for fun."

And if the read the site "Sea Ice News" it states ... "The average ice extent for February 2010 was the fourth lowest February extent since the beginning of the modern satellite record." ... "The linear rate of decline for February is now 2.9% per decade."

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What? You think we don't read this stuff?

[Henry Hawk]

For goodness sakes, Henry. Yet another report from a TV weatherman, who readily admits on the site you linked to - "I'm not a degreed climate scientist" and he does this "just for fun."

And if the read the site "Sea Ice News" it states ... "The average ice extent for February 2010 was the fourth lowest February extent since the beginning of the modern satellite record." ... "The linear rate of decline for February is now 2.9% per decade."

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What? You think we don't read this stuff?

and you wouldn't if I didn't link it........the fact IS: it is NOT doom and gloom....

[Bo D]

and you wouldn't if I didn't link it........the fact IS: it is NOT doom and gloom....

But why do you post completely misleading articles to justify your position? And it ain't exactly all rosy either. That is if you bothered to really read the very article your TV talking-head weatherman cited.

[Henry Hawk]

it is not completely misleading...there are other articles that support it....


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-1242011/DAVID-ROSE-The-mini-ice-age-starts-here.html

http://www.washingtontimes.com/weblogs/watercooler/2010/jan/10/inconvenient-truth-ice-cap-growing/

my point is....it was just a few short years ago, the north pole was melting and polar bears was screwed....NOW, data shows that those stories are false....

THAT is my point....period.

[Henry Hawk]

THIS is misleading....

http://www.upi.com/Top_News/2008/06/27/Ice-expected-tp-disappear-from-North-Pole/UPI-45191214620247/

   BOULDER, Colo., June 27, 2008 (UPI)
-- Ice, for the first time in human history, could disappear from the North Pole this year, scientists say.
With the disappearance of the Arctic sea ice, it is making it possible to reach the North Pole sailing in a boat through open water, the Independent reported Friday.
The newspaper reported that some scientists say they believe the ice at 90 degrees north could melt away by summer.
"From the viewpoint of science, the North Pole is just another point on the globe, but symbolically it is hugely important. There is supposed to be ice at the North Pole, not open water," said Mark Serreze of the U.S. National Snow and Ice Data Center in Colorado.
If the ice melts, it could allow for extraction of oil and minerals, which have not been reachable because of the ice shelf.
"The issue is that, for the first time that I am aware of, the North Pole is covered with extensive first-year ice -- ice that formed last autumn and winter. I'd say it's even-odds whether the North Pole melts out," Serreze said.
Serreze said reduced greenhouse gas emissions could "cool things down a bit," CNN reported.
"It would recover fairly quickly, but it's just not going to happen for a while," he said. "I think we're committed at this point."

AND, the Polar Bears are NOT dying...

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2009/aug/23/hurray-for-polar-bears/

[Bo D]

http://www.washingtontimes.com/weblogs/watercooler/2010/jan/10/inconvenient-truth-ice-cap-growing/

my point is....it was just a few short years ago, the north pole was melting and polar bears was screwed....NOW, data shows that those stories are false....

THAT is my point....period.

Let's tackle this one. In the article you cited from the Washington Times, the writer claims "A report from the US National Snow and Ice Data Center  in Colorado finds that Arctic summer sea ice has increased by 409,000 square miles, or 26 per cent, since 2007. "

Yet if you read the very report he cites ... "Arctic sea ice extent averaged for February 2010 was 14.58 million square kilometers (5.63 million square miles). This was 1.06 million square kilometers (409,000 square miles) below the 1979 to 2000 average for February"

Looks to me like Mr. Jim Robins has a reading problem. And what are his credentials? Senior Editorial Writer for Foreign Affairs at the Washington Times, Ph.D. and Master of Arts in Law and Diplomacy.

A lawyer is your expert on global warming?

[Sandy Eggo]

http://www.indecisionforever.com/2010/03/30/fox-nation-punks-itself-with-global-warming-news-story/

If this link doesn't work, I typed it wrong...so google - fox news punks itself with global warming

[LOsborne]

SSSPPPTTTFFF!! That was my frosty beverage being spewed over my monitor and keyboard.

Thank you sharing this one, Sandy. Reading it, I was prepared to believe it was a story from The Onion. But noooooo...... Faux News not only ran it last Monday, they ran it as NEWS, when it first appeared on a satirical news site (prominently labeled as such) way back in 2006.

Here's the snopes link, for those of you canny enough not to take someone's word for it:

http://www.snopes.com/politics/satire/freeze.asp

[Palehorse]

80 degrees + on the 1st of April, Fire Weather Warnings in Indiana. . . no, there's no such thing as Global Warming. . .

[Henry Hawk]

80 degrees + on the 1st of April, Fire Weather Warnings in Indiana. . . no, there's no such thing as Global Warming. . .

Oh, I believe there is global warming, it has been warming and cooling for a zillion years or how ever long this big marble has been built.......I just don't buy in to the fact that we are single handedly destroying this earth and that the effects we are seeing is NOT a result of man, but predominately by the mere nature of this planet....

[Sandy Eggo]

Seriously, I say this w/affection, but someone would have to be a complete moron to think that we aren't influencing the rate of global warming. No one argues that part of it isn't natural, but to totally disregard mankind's impact is stupid.

[Henry Hawk]

and I say this with affection, but I find it stupid to think that this subtle change is ALL due to mankind....btw, I said 'predominatly'...I have know doubt that we need to be better stewards of this earth....but not to the point of wrecking economy's to achieve something that may not even make a difference...