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dan foster

Quote from: Ghost of Jaco on February 07, 2009, 09:09:44 AM
I beg to differ. It is you who has not provided a single piece of peer-reviewed research to support any of your contentions during any discussion on any thread I have seen thus far.

And when we who are of a different opinion actually research the topic and provide such support for our opinions, you attack our sources for a missed dotted "i" or uncrossed "t" and dismiss them without ever offering any substantive rebuff from sources of your own.

I, personally, have illustrated your reasoning and logical thinking skills to be substandard time and time again.
Heck, my six-year-old can support her argument for a second cookie with better logic than you have offered to this group for any of your positions.
You think you are an intellectual; you are not.
You think you are well-read; you are not.
You think you are conversant on current events; you are not.
And you are mistaken if you think your boorish, uni-brow, low-forehead insults make you even appear to be intelligent.

The "preponderance" of evidence forces one to conclude through "logical thought processes" that what you are is a poseur.
A head-up-his-ass, blind-to-the-truth, snug-and-comfy-in-his-ignorance, poseur.

And if I and ME and HENRY and (sometimes) PH weren't having so much damn fun tweaking you and laughing at your sophomoric behavior behind your back, we'd probably band together and petition the mods to have you banned from this board for being such an obnoxious boor.

So remember as you bask so warmly in your own regard that you are the unwitting jester, the unknowing fool, our own Hopfrog; just one of a stable of such around here who speak with the same voice as you.
We love you for the entertainment that you bring to this board.
Just don't forget your station.


PS: Hell, even my insults are better than yours!  :yes:


So, what you are saying is that global warming is a hoax?
"Wherever morality is based on theology, wherever right is made dependent on divine authority, the most immoral, unjust, infamous things can be justified and established." -- Ludwig Feuerbach, The Essence of Christianity, 1841

"A bottle of wine contains more philosophy than all the books in the world" Louis Pasteur

"It is a truism that almost any sect, cult, or religion will legislate its creed into law if it acquires the political power to do so." -- Sir Arthur C. Clarke

dan foster

"Wherever morality is based on theology, wherever right is made dependent on divine authority, the most immoral, unjust, infamous things can be justified and established." -- Ludwig Feuerbach, The Essence of Christianity, 1841

"A bottle of wine contains more philosophy than all the books in the world" Louis Pasteur

"It is a truism that almost any sect, cult, or religion will legislate its creed into law if it acquires the political power to do so." -- Sir Arthur C. Clarke

me

Trump 2020

Ghost of Jaco

Quote from: dan foster on February 07, 2009, 06:15:01 PM
So, what you are saying is that global warming is a hoax?

HAHAHAHAHAHA! Ya kill me! That was awesome!  No sarcasm, I really did laugh out loud at that!

No, global warming is not the "hoax"... as I stated previously (and provided much unbiased scientific research to support my contention), the earth's climate is in constant flux. There are a myriad of factors far more powerful than anything Man can do that influence the climate in a meaningful way. From the "brightening/dimming" of the sun over time, to the wobble of the earth's rotation on its axis, to the varying distance of the Earth to the sun, to precession; the temperature of the Earth is ultimately a function of natural processes far beyond the control of Mankind.

The "hoax" part comes in the selling of "carbon credits", "green" taxes, and restrictions on our freedoms, and filling our children's heads full of Socialist mush in the name of "the environment". The "greening of America" should rightly be called the "fleecing of America".
And leading the fleecing (and making MILLIONS in the process) is "Big Al the Environments Pal". Al Gore, whose home in Tennessee has a larger "carbon footprint" than some small towns, is as big a hypocrite as I have ever come across.

You could slaughter all the cattle on the planet and stuff them into the volcanoes to stop the outpouring of methane and carbon emissions, you could kill everyone on the planet (except for the "enlightened" Liberals, of course*) and stuff the bodies into the smokestacks of coal-fired electrical generating plants to halt the carbon dioxide from escaping, outlaw the combustion of ANYTHING worldwide for ANY reason (except cannabis for the pothead Liberals in Cali, naturally), and, in the words of noted philosopher David Gates and the philosophical consortium formerly known as "Bread", "If the world should stop revolving, spinning slowly down to die..." (and it is, btw), none of that will make a dime's worth of difference and we couldn't do a damn thing about it!

There is a global warming hoax, alright, but it isn't that the climate of the Earth changes; it is that we can stop it from changing if we would but cede our freedoms and our fortunes to those more enlightened beings at the apex of Socialism/Communism. They of course, being so enlightened, are entitled to accrue power and wealth while the rest of us slave away in darkness. That is the hoax.


*D'jever notice that those who clamber  for "depopulating" the Earth in order to save it, never seem to actually LEAD by example?
Wanna know WHY? Read "Visions of the Anointed" by Thomas Sowell.
"I contend that we are both religious. I just believe in one more god than you do. When you understand why you believe that a spontaneous "big bang" created all of time, space, and matter out of nothing, you will understand why I believe in a creator." -GoJ

Ghost of Jaco

O/T:
"Eternal damnation and punishment awaits those who question God's unconditional love." -Bill Hicks"

The lesson of the story of Job is NOT that one must be patient with God; but rather that is is fine to question or even become angry with God. You should read it without preconceptions sometime. It's really quite a story!
"I contend that we are both religious. I just believe in one more god than you do. When you understand why you believe that a spontaneous "big bang" created all of time, space, and matter out of nothing, you will understand why I believe in a creator." -GoJ

dan foster

Quote from: Ghost of Jaco on February 08, 2009, 11:38:37 AM
O/T:
"Eternal damnation and punishment awaits those who question God's unconditional love." -Bill Hicks"

The lesson of the story of Job is NOT that one must be patient with God; but rather that is is fine to question or even become angry with God. You should read it without preconceptions sometime. It's really quite a story!

The whole story is vile and wreaks of simple-minded, bronze-age justice.  You should read it without preconceptions sometime.  It's really a vicious story, from beginning to end, and afterwards.  Jesus is coming back, not to love, but to slaughter.
"Wherever morality is based on theology, wherever right is made dependent on divine authority, the most immoral, unjust, infamous things can be justified and established." -- Ludwig Feuerbach, The Essence of Christianity, 1841

"A bottle of wine contains more philosophy than all the books in the world" Louis Pasteur

"It is a truism that almost any sect, cult, or religion will legislate its creed into law if it acquires the political power to do so." -- Sir Arthur C. Clarke

Monroe

"Jesus is coming back, not to love, but to slaughter." says dan.  I say sometimes slaughter is good

  Slaughter who?  When?  Are you really a believer?  Is it the point of Job?

Last night is was at a little dinner for a guy turning 60 this month, retiring as an Army aviator, grounded lately for injuries and old age.  He  was a killer of the worse kind in his youth, self destructive from Vietnam, you know the type, or at least I do.  He was a drunk and drug abuser for years after. For years now his has been a man with a mission, called to preach.  Married 30 years, 4 grown kids, wife is an RN. Baptist, he went from hellion to a man who  wants to save people from their base nature of lust and violence.  He wasn't pushy.  We were good acquaintances but he never complained, pointed out my crassness, or made me feel a lesser man.  Why is having people like that a problem?  I think they are part of the solution. 

dan, I know you're crazy but maybe I am too because for some reason I want your response.






dan foster

Quote from: Monroe on February 08, 2009, 09:01:32 PM
"Jesus is coming back, not to love, but to slaughter." says dan.  I say sometimes slaughter is good

  Slaughter who?  When?  Are you really a believer?  Is it the point of Job?

Last night is was at a little dinner for a guy turning 60 this month, retiring as an Army aviator, grounded lately for injuries and old age.  He  was a killer of the worse kind in his youth, self destructive from Vietnam, you know the type, or at least I do.  He was a drunk and drug abuser for years after. For years now his has been a man with a mission, called to preach.  Married 30 years, 4 grown kids, wife is an RN. Baptist, he went from hellion to a man who  wants to save people from their base nature of lust and violence.  He wasn't pushy.  We were good acquaintances but he never complained, pointed out my crassness, or made me feel a lesser man.  Why is having people like that a problem?  I think they are part of the solution. 

dan, I know you're crazy but maybe I am too because for some reason I want your response.

He will destroy those who's only crime might be they just didn't believe in fantasies.  No, I am not a believer.  Just like to point out the silliness of the story.  I don't know where Job comes in, other than an irrelevant point Jacko made.

As for the "preacher"; most people just drink the kool aid, preachers mainline it.  However, I believe most preachers are just better at the con and make a "living" off the feeble minded followers.  I haven't met a preacher, yet, that wasn't just on a con job and had many, many people fooled.

Revelation 19
11I saw heaven standing open and there before me was a white horse, whose rider is called Faithful and True. With justice he judges and makes war. 12His eyes are like blazing fire, and on his head are many crowns. He has a name written on him that no one knows but he himself. 13He is dressed in a robe dipped in blood, and his name is the Word of God. 14The armies of heaven were following him, riding on white horses and dressed in fine linen, white and clean. 15Out of his mouth comes a sharp sword with which to strike down the nations. "He will rule them with an iron scepter."[a] He treads the winepress of the fury of the wrath of God Almighty. 16On his robe and on his thigh he has this name written:
       KING OF KINGS AND LORD OF LORDS.
17And I saw an angel standing in the sun, who cried in a loud voice to all the birds flying in midair, "Come, gather together for the great supper of God, 18so that you may eat the flesh of kings, generals, and mighty men, of horses and their riders, and the flesh of all people, free and slave, small and great."

"Wherever morality is based on theology, wherever right is made dependent on divine authority, the most immoral, unjust, infamous things can be justified and established." -- Ludwig Feuerbach, The Essence of Christianity, 1841

"A bottle of wine contains more philosophy than all the books in the world" Louis Pasteur

"It is a truism that almost any sect, cult, or religion will legislate its creed into law if it acquires the political power to do so." -- Sir Arthur C. Clarke

Exterminator

Quote from: Ghost of Jaco on February 07, 2009, 09:09:44 AM
I beg to differ. It is you who has not provided a single piece of peer-reviewed research to support any of your contentions during any discussion on any thread I have seen thus far.

And when we who are of a different opinion actually research the topic and provide such support for our opinions, you attack our sources for a missed dotted "i" or uncrossed "t" and dismiss them without ever offering any substantive rebuff from sources of your own.

I, personally, have illustrated your reasoning and logical thinking skills to be substandard time and time again.
Heck, my six-year-old can support her argument for a second cookie with better logic than you have offered to this group for any of your positions.
You think you are an intellectual; you are not.
You think you are well-read; you are not.
You think you are conversant on current events; you are not.
And you are mistaken if you think your boorish, uni-brow, low-forehead insults make you even appear to be intelligent.

The "preponderance" of evidence forces one to conclude through "logical thought processes" that what you are is a poseur.
A head-up-his-ass, blind-to-the-truth, snug-and-comfy-in-his-ignorance, poseur.

And if I and ME and HENRY and (sometimes) PH weren't having so much damn fun tweaking you and laughing at your sophomoric behavior behind your back, we'd probably band together and petition the mods to have you banned from this board for being such an obnoxious boor.

So remember as you bask so warmly in your own regard that you are the unwitting jester, the unknowing fool, our own Hopfrog; just one of a stable of such around here who speak with the same voice as you.
We love you for the entertainment that you bring to this board.
Just don't forget your station.


PS: Hell, even my insults are better than yours!  :yes:


My, but you are full of yourself.   :rolleyes:
Arguing with Christians is like playing chess with a pigeon.  No matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock over the pieces, shit on the board and strut around like it's victorious.

The truth is slow, but relentless. Over time it becomes irresistible.

Exterminator

Arguing with Christians is like playing chess with a pigeon.  No matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock over the pieces, shit on the board and strut around like it's victorious.

The truth is slow, but relentless. Over time it becomes irresistible.

me

Trump 2020

Ghost of Jaco

"I contend that we are both religious. I just believe in one more god than you do. When you understand why you believe that a spontaneous "big bang" created all of time, space, and matter out of nothing, you will understand why I believe in a creator." -GoJ

Exterminator

Arguing with Christians is like playing chess with a pigeon.  No matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock over the pieces, shit on the board and strut around like it's victorious.

The truth is slow, but relentless. Over time it becomes irresistible.

me

Trump 2020

me

Trump 2020