Taking off a bit on this comment by Exterminator...
Quote from: Exterminator on April 06, 2017, 09:42:03 AM
I'm starting to understand why Putin was so interested in seeing Trump get into the White House. I think Russia and China are working together to try to draw the U.S. into a war and Putin understands that Trump is just unstable enough to take the bait. I have never been one who is into conspiracy theories but believe that North Korea's continued missile launches and Syria's recent use of a chemical weapon are deliberate provocations.
...it appears that things are about to get very serious in Syria. Trump has all but promised some sort of response to the latest chemical attack by Assad.
Given that the Russians are supporting Assad, what happens when the US strikes at Assad's forces in retaliation? That puts a US military response squarely up against Russian interests.
No good is going to come from this at all.
Thoughts?
Let's put it this way, they'll find out Trump ain't no Obama and if he draws a red line he won't go back on his word. He also knows talking nice to our ememies won't make them play nice.
Quote from: me on April 06, 2017, 07:51:36 PM
Let's put it this way, they'll find out Trump ain't no Obama and if he draws a red line he won't go back on his word.
But what of the ramifications of such an action in the broader Middle East policy, especially given the opposite position the Putin has taken in the conflict?
Quote from: me on April 06, 2017, 07:51:36 PM
He also knows talking nice to our ememies won't make them play nice.
There is increasing evidence that members of his campaign and transition have been "talking to our enemies" all along. :wink:
Quote from: Locutus on April 06, 2017, 07:55:41 PM
But what of the ramifications of such an action in the broader Middle East policy, especially given the opposite position the Putin has taken in the conflict?
There is increasing evidence that members of his campaign and transition have been "talking to our enemies" all along. :wink:
Could it have been part of their job description? Do you know what they were talking about? Maybe they were talking about their kids or grandkids. :wink:
:rolleyes:
We'll see what your response is when gasoline goes upwards of 6 bucks a gallon once the raging cheeto pulls the trigger. . .
Quote from: me on April 06, 2017, 08:13:50 PM
Could it have been part of their job description? Do you know what they were talking about? Maybe they were talking about their kids or grandkids. :wink:
Juvenile responses like that are unworthy of a serious conversation.
Too bad you're allowed to vote.
Quote from: Locutus on April 06, 2017, 08:31:08 PM
Juvenile responses like that are unworthy of a serious conversation.
Too bad you're allowed to vote.
Went right over your head didn't it?
Quote from: me on April 06, 2017, 08:41:17 PM
Went right over your head didn't it?
You lost me at the suggestion that they were talking about children and grandchildren.
Juvenile.
Quote from: Locutus on April 06, 2017, 08:43:23 PM
You lost me at the suggestion that they were talking about children and grandchildren.
Juvenile.
Clinton and whats-her-face in the hanger. You know, that "incidental" meeting during the primaries.
Quote from: me on April 06, 2017, 08:45:54 PM
Clinton and whats-her-face in the hanger. You know, that "incidental" meeting during the primaries.
That was a stupid move on his part. I'll readily admit that.
Can you criticize your own in the same manner?
Quote from: Locutus on April 06, 2017, 08:48:23 PM
That was a stupid move on his part. I'll readily admit that.
Can you criticize your own in the same manner?
From what I remember a call was made at the request of Obama and the other meeting's were at the W H under chance circumstances where several other people were and not secret meetings.
Quote from: Locutus on April 06, 2017, 08:31:08 PM
Too bad you're allowed to vote.
That's an understatement! :yes:
Quote from: Palehorse on April 06, 2017, 08:28:27 PM
:rolleyes:
We'll see what your response is when gasoline goes upwards of 6 bucks a gallon once the raging cheeto pulls the trigger. . .
Oil prices have already surged. :yes:
Fox News is reporting that Russian warships are heading toward the two U.S. Navy ships from which last night's missile attacks were launched. :spooked:
Quote from: Locutus on April 07, 2017, 11:14:21 AM
Oil prices have already surged. :yes:
Yep, gas prices which have been steady for a couple of years are going up as well. Up $.25 at Costco just in the past couple of weeks.
If you are going to stop murdering dictator al-Assad, you got to get his attention. :yes: They were right to get the air base that the poison gas came from. :yes: But they should have put out the lights in Syria out. Hit every one of their power plants. :yes: :yes: :biggrin: No public water to drink or use, no sewer plants, no computers, no lights. You can't pump gas at the filling station. Really, it would get the public's attention and most likely al-Assad's attention to stop killing his people. :haha: :haha:
The next time send several Cruise missiles, one to al-Assad's home, one to his country home, one to their main government building, one to his bunker and one to where he might be hiding at that time. Oh yes, sent one to the military building where the gas attack was planned. :haha: :haha: You see, I really want to kill the bastard al-Assad and his buddies. :dead: :dig:
Then who fills the vacuum once he's gone? There are numerous players on the ground in Syria and none of them are particularly good.
Quote from: Locutus on April 07, 2017, 05:41:10 PM
Then who fills the vacuum once he's gone? There are numerous players on the ground in Syria and none of them are particularly good.
Let them figure that out for themselves. :yes: If the bad ones win, we take care of that problem. They should be very weak after all of that fighting and it wouldn't take much to take care of that problem. :wink: :biggrin:
Quote from: The Troll on April 07, 2017, 10:38:40 PM
Let them figure that out for themselves. :yes: If the bad ones win, we take care of that problem. They should be very weak after all of that fighting and it wouldn't take much to take care of that problem. :wink: :biggrin:
The problem with that approach is that the world philanthropies will make mince meat of the U.S. over the plight of those that are deemed collateral damage, on the world stage.
The U.S. is suffering enough diplomatically from this very issue due to the rantings and knee-jerk reactions of the Raging Cheeto, and a strategic series of strikes designed to hit high value targets that you just suggested, while it makes sense militarily, will only serve to further exacerbate this. Especially if there is no unilateral plan to transition power to one group or another. . . The fighting will continue and I assure you that Russia will leverage the circumstances to force Syria into Russian possession. No doubt about that.
There's also no doubt that this scenario will result in WWIII. . . A situation this nation is now wholly unprepared to engage within. Not without a sustained period of infrastructure bolstering and redeployment of what remains of manufacturing operations well beforehand.
Without it, we will be either overtaken or gone due to the nuclear options we will assuredly be forced to utilize.
PaleHorse, since you read dreams. :zzz: What do you think of Nostradamus prediction of World War III starting in 2013 or in the forthcoming years in the Mideast? Now that sounds really bad. :think: :grin2:
Quote from: The Troll on April 08, 2017, 11:16:14 AM
PaleHorse, since you read dreams. :zzz: What do you think of Nostradamus prediction of World War III starting in 2013 or in the forthcoming years in the Mideast? Now that sounds really bad. :think: :grin2:
I believe that things were as Nostradamus documented, when he was alive. Thing about that is that humankind has the ability to alter these predictions via modification of the behaviors and actions that lead to them; either accelerating things or pushing them out. I believe that in the time that has passed since Nostradamus made the prediction a little of both have transpired, but none-the-less we are still hell bent for leather on the path toward WWIII this day; and I believe we may very well see it come to pass within our lifetimes. . . :mad:
Well, this interview didn't go exactly as planned.
https://www.youtube.com/v/s3uaf1NFxXc
A friend of mine, well actually an acquaintence, is in Egypt for his daughters wedding and I thought you'd like to read through the posts about what things are really like there and how they feel about Trump bombing Syria rather than news accounts. Don't know if his fb is open to the public or not but here is a link so you can check this out if you wish, I know how some of you are. https://www.facebook.com/tommartinband
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Stacey Martin Be careful! 🙏🏼 😔
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Mark Plunkett Very appropriate, if American lame stream media actually aired this kinda shit then maybe, just maybe Americans would understand that islam is not a religion of peace!!
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Bobbie Michelle Hernandez Appropriate.
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Melissa Marie Even though I don't agree with your comment Mark , I do agree this is appropriate. It's what's going on in our world . Just not there but everywhere . Pray for your safety .
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Troy Dilley ? Just wondering, can you explain that statement? Not encouraging conflict at all, but I'm just curious as to why....?
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Mark Plunkett What part did you not agree with Melissa Marie?
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Melissa Marie Pertaining to Islam is not a religion of peace .
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Kathy Pearl Dear God how horrible! This is why they must be stopped.
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Hilary Groce That is so sad prayers to them all. Prayers for your safe travels also.
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Lori Kees Oh my gosh....unbelievable!
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Amy Jo George Wow talk about the reality of terrorists. Jesus Christ
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Marlena Montgomery-Martin Please keep keep all of you safe. Praying for all of you...
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Susan Sexton Martin Tom, be careful. I had no idea you was over there.
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Thomas Poe I think he means he visited that city when his daughter got married over there.
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Susan Sexton Martin No, he is there, visiting his daughter.
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Rosemary R Adams How horrible....be safe Tom.
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Cheryl A. Turner Tom are you okay??
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Mary Mansfield God with you...for safety ...prayers for all...so sad
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Bill Wagner Horrible. Man is worst than any animal. Evil lurks with human beings. 😡
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Ibn Elbanna For those who don't know exactly about what happened, we, the Egyptians, don't see these explosions a lot and most of us know who is the real culprit. Sometimes the government here bombs the mosques and churches to try to cause division and divert the attention away from important issues for example: The government and the President are selling two of our islands to the Saudi government and when we tried to talk about it on Facebook and mass media, they started the attacks. So we know about their tricks. We Muslims are so sad about it and we are the ones who support them. They are using the policy of "divide and conquer" But we know better and this will never make the Christians hate us but rather we have become more united. By the way dad and Miranda and I are okay and thank you for asking about us.
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Cheryl A. Turner 3 bombings since Miranda has been there is a lot when you're wondering if your loved ones are dead or not.
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Jeanvieve Nicole Wallick This very same thing has happened on U.S. soil too! It is called a false flag attack. Divide and conquer! We all need to unite against the machine of government.
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Carol Lenahan This has always been my thoughts too, that the President and the other countries governments are only "playing" the world for their own benefits.
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Donna McPherson God help them
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Rebecca King-Smith Prayers for you and all of the families that suffered love one's today. God be with you
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Rachel Kalman yet these images will never make the media because they may be too graphic.... EFF ISIS
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Pebbles Clint Caudill Shocking for us to see but I'm sure it's been worse on you and family. Prayers sent.
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Ronnie Sosbe This is very sad.prayers sent to all family members. ...may GOD shine his light on this .....christian and i dont care who knows it
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Katrina Henry I think its in the blood line.
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Jodigurl Parrish Was it a suicide bomber that walked into the church? And was you there when this happened? Glad your safe!. That's so sad and wrong on so many levels!😟
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Amy Harris How sad for everyone. Be safe and I will pray for you and those who are suffering
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Patricia Sharp Did you take thes pictures, Tom ? This is horible. Heard on the news that one was a suicide bomber and the other someone taped a bomb under one of the seats. How close are you to this ?
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Tom Martin I am here visiting my daughter, my Egyptian son-in-law and his family. One of his fb friends is a local reporter here and posted the pictures. They live in a smaller town outside of Tanta, but we were there shopping the night before this happened. Many locals here believe their own, and other corrupt governments may be involved, as no one knows or has ever seen ISIS.
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Tom Martin All of the Muslims I have met here are passive and don't believe in violence. Many have a great respect for Americans, and are praising Trump for taking action against the Syrian president.
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Staci Mccrackin I can't stop crying .... this is too sad and real and Evil
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Am I the only one who thinks this entire incident is nothing more than a show by all of the involved parties?
Quote from: Exterminator on April 10, 2017, 09:05:56 AM
Am I the only one who thinks this entire incident is nothing more than a show by all of the involved parties?
The insidious nature of the "game" being played by world leaders all but assures someone's meat curtains are going to get bruised and WWIII will ensue.
I somewhat agree a lot of this is saber rattling, but in this global environment it will lead to division and war. . . (Worse division than this nation is enduring as I write this.)
Quote from: Palehorse on April 10, 2017, 11:56:44 AM
I somewhat agree a lot of this is saber rattling...
No, I don't mean saber rattling at all. I mean that Putin and Trump joined forces to orchestrate the entire thing. If the two are working behind the scenes on an agenda favorable to Russia's interests, both needed to make it appear as though they are not as friendly as the evidence suggests. What better way than a false flag chemical attack followed by a (largely non-destructive) missile attack against an ally of the Kremlin?
Quote from: Exterminator on April 10, 2017, 12:52:19 PM
No, I don't mean saber rattling at all. I mean that Putin and Trump joined forces to orchestrate the entire thing. If the two are working behind the scenes on an agenda favorable to Russia's interests, both needed to make it appear as though they are not as friendly as the evidence suggests. What better way than a false flag chemical attack followed by a (largely non-destructive) missile attack against an ally of the Kremlin?
WOW!!!!
W.A.D.A....
W.A.D.A.?
Quote from: Exterminator on April 10, 2017, 01:22:03 PM
W.A.D.A.?
Not even Google turned up anything on that one. ;D
Quote from: Locutus on April 10, 2017, 03:00:33 PM
Not even Google turned up anything on that one. ;D
All I can say is it fits Ex perfectly. :biggrin:
Either of you care to tell us what it means? :biggrin:
I'm guessing it means what a dumb ass...ironic coming from these mental midgets.
Quote from: Exterminator on April 10, 2017, 03:58:24 PM
I'm guessing it means what a dumb ass...ironic coming from these mental midgets.
Oh I'm sure it was an aspersion of some sort.
Quote from: Exterminator on April 10, 2017, 12:52:19 PM
No, I don't mean saber rattling at all. I mean that Putin and Trump joined forces to orchestrate the entire thing. If the two are working behind the scenes on an agenda favorable to Russia's interests, both needed to make it appear as though they are not as friendly as the evidence suggests. What better way than a false flag chemical attack followed by a (largely non-destructive) missile attack against an ally of the Kremlin?
Stranger things have happened, so it would not surprise me if that were indeed the case. Those two are (not so) covertly attempting to ruin the planet. . . :mad: :mad: :mad:
Quote from: Henry Hawk on April 10, 2017, 01:05:23 PM
WOW!!!!
W.A.D.A....
The theory has some absolute merit, so I'd love to hear your argument supporting that it is false. . .
Quote from: Palehorse on April 11, 2017, 12:24:31 AM
The theory has some absolute merit, so I'd love to hear your argument supporting that it is false. . .
What inkling of Merit is there? You actually believe they met and conjured this whole thing up? It is 100% BS! YOU prove there is merit, I don't have prove anything.......I'm not making outrageous statements. That is incredibly outrageous. Personally, I am having more fun just quietly watching the "snowflakes" out there melt.
Quote from: Exterminator on March 27, 2017, 09:30:14 AM
If looking back over the past couple of months, knowing what you know now, you are still a Trump supporter, I have a couple of suggestions for you: First, do the world a favor and kill off all of your relatives...even the distant ones...so the rest of us can be assured that that gene swamp has been completely eradicated. Then, go ahead and suck start a shotgun yourself because you are clearly too stupid to be taking up space and breathing the same air as sane people.
Quote from: Henry Hawk on April 11, 2017, 12:28:33 PM
What inkling of Merit is there? You actually believe they met and conjured this whole thing up? It is 100% BS! YOU prove there is merit, I don't have prove anything.......I'm not making outrageous statements. That is incredibly outrageous. Personally, I am having more fun just quietly watching the "snowflakes" out there melt.
So you are just casting aside all of the evidence of under the table dealings with Russia during the election phase? You auto-magically know there is nothing to it when even sectors of the conservative party have expressed deep concerns?
Those are qualities that have placed a whole lot of dictators into power and history is rift with examples of this. . .
You should be concerned. You should be VERY concerned. Obviously you are not. . . :-\
Quote from: Palehorse on April 18, 2017, 11:33:09 AM
So you are just casting aside all of the evidence of under the table dealings with Russia during the election phase?
WHAT evidence?
I think it's funny that virtually all of the conservatives I've seen use the term snowflake would cry like the little bitches they are if you so much as backhanded them. :rolleyes:
Quote from: Exterminator on April 20, 2017, 10:18:12 AM
I think it's funny that virtually all of the conservatives I've seen use the term snowflake would cry like the little bitches they are if you so much as backhanded them. :rolleyes:
Including Sean Hannity, who throws that term around multiple times on every show.
Quote from: Exterminator on April 20, 2017, 10:18:12 AM
I think it's funny that virtually all of the conservatives I've seen use the term snowflake would cry like the little bitches they are if you so much as backhanded them. :rolleyes:
backhand me bitch and see what happens...f'g snowflake....
(doing my best ex impersonation) ;)
Quote from: Henry Hawk on April 20, 2017, 11:28:56 AM
backhand me bitch and see what happens...f'g snowflake....
LMAO! I already said what would happen.
Call me snowflake to my face and see what happens.
Quote from: Exterminator on April 20, 2017, 12:09:05 PM
LMAO! I already said what would happen.
Call me snowflake to my face and see what happens.
I would have NO problem saying that to your face.....neither would m lawyer.
Quote from: Henry Hawk on April 20, 2017, 12:48:40 PM
I would have NO problem saying that to your face.....neither would m lawyer.
Who's the snowflake again? :biggrin:
I think the 30 cruise missiles sent to Syria, that didn't even shut down the runways, a million dollars apiece, should have been used this way. :yes: :biggrin: Each one should have been sent to one of Syria's power plants and put out the lights in Syria. :yes:
The people who live live in the city under government control doesn't know that there is a war going on. Turn off their lights, water, air conditioners and their waste treatment. Let them suffer a little. :yes: :biggrin:
The general citizens of Syria are suffering enough already. (Their plight is further exacerbated by this whole refugee fiasco going on globally, which is driven by their attempting to get out of Syria and escape the dangers and death).
Fact is, almost the entire planet is now stacking the deck against them by closing their borders and refusing to admit Syrian refugees.
That being said, hitting their infrastructure may be a good idea but then once the world puts them under we're on the hook for rebuilding all that crap. . .
(http://i2.cdn.cnn.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/150909110150-migrant-crisis-map-exlarge-169.png)
The main reason the asylum seekers from Syria, Iraq, Afghanistan and Eritrea have a problem of finding some place to go is. They are god damn Muslims and with their god damn Muslim religion, they are like putting cancer into a healthy body of someone else. Or putting a rotten apple into the middle of a barrel of good apples. They poison, rotten and destroy the place they are put. Just check out England, France and any other place they are put. :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :rant:
Quote from: The Troll on April 23, 2017, 04:46:12 PM
The main reason the asylum seekers from Syria, Iraq, Afghanistan and Eritrea have a problem of finding some place to go is. They are god damn Muslims and with their god damn Muslim religion, they are like putting cancer into a healthy body of someone else. Or putting a rotten apple into the middle of a barrel of good apples. They poison, rotten and destroy the place they are put. Just check out England, France and any other place they are put. :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :rant:
You're a fucking idiot.
Quote from: Exterminator on April 23, 2017, 05:56:24 PM
You're a fucking idiot.
So you're ok with mutilating female genitals, women being subserviant, throwing gays off of buildings or beheading them, men marrying children as young as 8 and using little boys as sex objects?
Quote from: me on April 23, 2017, 09:27:16 PM
So you're ok with mutilating female genitals, women being subserviant, throwing gays off of buildings or beheading them, men marrying children as young as 8 and using little boys as sex objects?
Typical white trash view of an entire religion based on the actions of a very small percentage of its adherents.
Quote from: Exterminator on April 24, 2017, 07:52:40 AM
Typical white trash view of an entire religion based on the actions of a very small percentage of its adherents.
So you're saying those doctors, one male and one female, who were just arrested for mutilating the female genitals here in the states is not the norm?
http://www.cnn.com/2017/04/22/health/detroit-genital-mutilation-charges/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBT_in_Islam#Passages_from_the_Quran_relating_to_homosexuality
Quote from: me on April 24, 2017, 12:48:35 PM
So you're saying those doctors, one male and one female, who were just arrested for mutilating the female genitals here in the states is not the norm?
That's exactly what I'm saying.
Quote from: Exterminator on April 24, 2017, 02:49:50 PM
That's exactly what I'm saying.
It's part of the religion.
Quote from: me on April 24, 2017, 04:26:30 PM
It's part of the religion.
Yes it is and that is why their religion is evil. But we have some Christians who would do about the same thing if they could. :rant: :mad: :mad: :mad:
No it isn't.
The Muslim religion is no better, or worse, than the Christian Religion; or any other religion for that matter.
There was a time when Christianity and it's zealots imparted just as much terror and death into the world; and it would again today were it not for the laws of humankind in this nation. (Another point of validation for separation of church and state).
When religion is provided the power to govern the laws of humankind, the laws of humankind become irrelevant and the perspectives of the authors of documents and religious tomes created centuries ago replace them. Perspectives seated within dark ages thinking and a mindset of the times within which they were created.
This nation was founded upon embracing our differences and the creation of a civilization free of the encumbrances of religion; with laws that nurture humankind and recognize not one religion, but rather the existence of a higher power that is called by many names by the worlds plethora of religious beliefs. The claim that this nation is a "Christian Nation" is a fallacy based upon the personal religious beliefs of its purveyors.
This nation is no more Christian than it is Muslim, Buddhist, etc. It is a nation representing freedom and humanity, or is supposed to be.
I view the insidious efforts to recognize ANY religion as a basis for this nations governance, an egregious act of terrorism just as offensive and horrendous as any act of terrorism that has taken place on this planet. It goes directly against the grain of the foundational intentions of this nation, and must not be allowed to progress.
Religion is a personal matter that is free from the laws of humankind only as long as its practices do not infringe upon the laws of humankind. Clearly EVERY religion has at some point infringed upon the laws of humankind from a present day point of view, and but for the enforcement of the laws of humankind ALL of them would be doing the same today.
Those who identify with the Muslim Faith are now sullied by the fact that some countries have allowed their faith the power to govern them, and had their governments overtaken by the extremist factions within the faith. This isn't new. It has happened many times throughout history and will continue to happen until every country on the planet learns to separate church and state.
We used to have it right in this nation, but if recent movements to change that are allowed to succeed then we are just a few short years from becoming Syria ourselves; and this we must prevent at all costs. We must not cave to efforts to have this nations government declared as being based upon ANY religion what-so-ever.
If we do then how will your views of the plight of present day Syrian refugees change? How will you see it when Canada or Mexico place an outright ban upon all American refugees looking to flee the death, destruction, and maiming of a war based upon religious perspectives you and your family do not and never have shared? "That will never happen"? Really? Take off those rose colored glasses ladies and gentlemen, because the declaration of this nation as being based upon ANY religion is the first step on that road, and it doesn't take long to travel the rest of the distance to war from there. . .
"But then we risk letting in terrorists". ~ That risk is there whether we take them in or not. The fact that we've elected individuals to our government that are lazy, life-long, sloths is the reason for this. And the political apathy that is rampant in this nation is its root cause. Most of us don't even do our homework, preferring instead to listen to the lies and propaganda and to base our votes upon that. We are just as damned lazy, and one only needs to look at who is in the oval office to see that is the truth.
There are things we could do to help minimize the risk, but the fact is congress won't do them and if it doesn't bring profit to their constituents or to the Raging Cheeto's Billionaire Club, then its too much work and not worth the effort in their eyes. Yes, we are just slaves in their eyes and our safety and welfare, as well as our quality of life mean nothing to them. ZERO.
How do you think they'll view us when we are entrenched in a religious based civil war?
Quote from: Exterminator on April 23, 2017, 05:56:24 PM
You're a fucking idiot.
You're the fucking idiot, you claim to be such an intelligent asshole. Hell, where is your ethic ts, your morels, you can't be honest enough to marry the woman who you live with. Why, because you are one selfish and greedy moron. You're afraid that if she leaves you, you will lose some of your toys and dog. :haha: :yes: :finger2:
Quote from: The Troll on April 29, 2017, 04:54:16 PM
You're the fucking idiot, you claim to be such an intelligent asshole.
I don't know that I've ever actually said that but ok. At least I can spell morals. :biggrin:
QuoteHell, where is your ethic ts, your morels...
Let's see if I have this straight...you are categorizing an entire religion based on the actions of a relative few of its radical adherents and questioning my ethics and morals? LOL!
Quote...you can't be honest enough to marry the woman who you live with.
Bahahaha! What century do you live in? Lots of people choose to live together now and besides, did you know that marriage is the #1 cause of divorce?
QuoteWhy, because you are one selfish and greedy moron. You're afraid that if she leaves you, you will lose some of your toys and dog.
Not even close...she has plenty of money of her own...doesn't need mine.
Quote from: Exterminator on May 01, 2017, 11:35:25 AM
Not even close...she has plenty of money of her own...doesn't need mine.
I think he was implying that you need hers. :biggrin:
Quote from: Locutus on May 01, 2017, 04:10:28 PM
I think he was implying that you need hers. :biggrin:
:thumbsup: He's such a "BIG MAN". :haha:
Quote from: Locutus on May 01, 2017, 04:10:28 PM
I think he was implying that you need hers. :biggrin:
LOL! Like I said...fucking idiot. :rolleyes:
You know damn well Dingy that you are not a true shooter :cowboy: Morals of a college frat boy trying to be someone he truly is not. :liar2: :huh1: :dogrun:
Get with the times, old man.
Quote from: Exterminator on May 03, 2017, 10:24:17 AM
Get with the times, old man.
Get with the times? I have probably never reached the sublime degree of riches you have and the good luck you have had, because both of us KNOW that you certainly are over rated and were you today was too good luck and the people your parents knew, we all know it wasn't on intelligence alone or you wouldn't say what you say. :mooning: Also I have never owned a killer German Shepard. :lol: :sa: But, I was raised in a different time than you. :trustme:
You were probably were never as poor I was as a child and your dad and mother were not raised by super poor depression mother and father as I was. Dad more that once talked about eating potato peel sandwiches (home made bread, couldn't afford to buy bread) and eating lard instead of butter sandwiches to keep from starving. His widow grandmother who was raising him and his brother couldn't even afford to buy peanut butter. :yes: :rant:
No, you were born in a very good times by parents who had a pretty good life. But, I will say that most people and I myself will say I have better morals than you and I remember where I came from, Cowboy. :cowboy: Now, why don't you take your dog for a walk and get your head out of your ass :walkdog:
Quote from: The Troll on May 03, 2017, 11:52:56 AM
Get with the times? I have probably never reached the sublime degree of riches you have and the good luck you have had, because both of us KNOW that you certainly are over rated and were you today was too good luck and the people your parents knew, we all know it wasn't on intelligence alone or you wouldn't say what you say.
You've got me all figured out, don't you?
QuoteAlso I have never owned a killer German Shepard.
Inasmuch as you can't even spell German Shepherd, that's not hard for me to believe. FYI, my dog was diagnosed with a brain tumor in January and had to be put down. About 8 weeks ago I bought a new puppy and have started all over.
QuoteYou were probably were never as poor I was as a child... No, you were born in a very good times by parents who had a pretty good life.
I was actually born into a family with a drunken, wife (and kids) beating father and spent most of my childhood being bounced in and out of foster homes. At 12, I was cutting grass and cleaning out roach-infested slum apartments to earn money to buy clothes to wear to school from the thrift store. I have an education because I worked for it so please don't presume to know anything about me.
Since I never owned a German shepherd, oh, I'm so sorry that I put an "A" instead of an "E" :haha: So you are going to fuck up another good dog, can't you just have a good and nice per, maybe a service dog. I am sorry that you had to put your dog down, I have had to do it to some of my pets and I cried each time, Believe me I know how bad you had to feel about that, it's really tough. : :'(
At the age 12 I also cut grass (reel type push mower) to get money to by a used bicycle. At age 14 I baled hay, detasseled corn, clean out hog houses, cow tromp sheds, chicken houses, caught hogs to be castrated, cut mustard out of 80 acre fields in certified oats fields on 90 degree plus days. Now tell me how bad you had it. :cry:
If your life was that bad as a kid, why can't you show some humanity to the other people in your life. You ever see a shrink? I have bit my lip over some of the nasty thing you have said in the past and let it go. Attack me and let the fight goes on. I have had to deal with a lot of asshole in my 79 years of living and with your insults, it just like having some kid pouring water of a duck's back, cowboy. :cowboy: :haha:
Quote from: Exterminator on May 03, 2017, 03:21:38 PM
You've got me all figured out, don't you?
Seems like you're gettin' a dose of your own medicine here. :biggrin:
Quote from: Exterminator on May 03, 2017, 03:21:38 PM
. . .
FYI, my dog was diagnosed with a brain tumor in January and had to be put down. About 8 weeks ago I bought a new puppy and have started all over.
. . .
My deepest condolences Ex. I know the dedication, commitment, and loving care you put into your animals, as well as the sorrow the loss imposes when they leave us. I also know your commitment to the breed is a great one.
Thank you for making the hard and humane choice for the animal as well.
I cannot wait to see the new pup, hopefully soon. And hope this time around things work out better.
I don't think I will have it in me to start over with another animal when our current pups time comes. I respect your ability to do so greatly. 😎
Quote from: Exterminator on May 03, 2017, 03:21:38 PM
Inasmuch as you can't even spell German Shepherd, that's not hard for me to believe. FYI, my dog was diagnosed with a brain tumor in January and had to be put down. About 8 weeks ago I bought a new puppy and have started all over.
AS much as I "dislike" your comments, and to be honest I question your decency, I DO know that you have a tremendous side to you when it comes to animals and your love of your dogs. I am truly sorry to hear this Ex. This is one area where we BOTH share something in common.
Quote from: The Troll on May 03, 2017, 06:56:46 PM
So you are going to fuck up another good dog, can't you just have a good and nice per, maybe a service dog.
I don't expect most people to understand why we do what we do but these are dogs who are genetically predisposed to work and would never be happy or satisfied being a rug in the corner of the living room or living out their lives as yard art. People like me spend thousands of hours and a lot of money training and trialing these dogs to prove their working ability with the goal that some of them can eventually be used as breeding stock for police and military working dogs. Those dogs don't just happen; they are bred specifically for that purpose.
QuoteIf your life was that bad as a kid, why can't you show some humanity to the other people in your life.
Humanity as in not judging an entire religion by the actions of a few?
QuoteI have bit my lip over some of the nasty thing you have said in the past and let it go.
You might want to go back and read some of your own posts and consider a little introspection.
Quote from: Palehorse on May 04, 2017, 01:32:10 AM
My deepest condolences Ex. I know the dedication, commitment, and loving care you put into your animals, as well as the sorrow the loss imposes when they leave us. I also know your commitment to the breed is a great one.
Thank you for making the hard and humane choice for the animal as well.
I cannot wait to see the new pup, hopefully soon. And hope this time around things work out better.
I don't think I will have it in me to start over with another animal when our current pups time comes. I respect your ability to do so greatly. 😎
Thanks, PH; I'll try to put up some pictures of her (yes, it's a girl!) soon.
Quote from: Henry Hawk on May 04, 2017, 07:47:09 AM
AS much as I "dislike" your comments, and to be honest I question your decency, I DO know that you have a tremendous side to you when it comes to animals and your love of your dogs. I am truly sorry to hear this Ex. This is one area where we BOTH share something in common.
Thanks, Hank.
Quote from: Exterminator on May 04, 2017, 09:55:10 AM
Thanks, Hank.
Ex, I had a German Short Pointer, he was my dog for hunting, riding in the car, going for a walk. He was my boy's dog, if my boy went around the block on his bicycle 50 times so did he. When my wife wanted my boy and she called for him and he "didn't hear her" she would call the dog and she knew where the kid was. and he was my wife dog and he was protective of her, he bit my on the butt one time, when he thought I was playing with her too rough.
One day while playing fetch with him, he saw another dog across the road and got killed going over to see the dog. Talk about break a guy's heart, it sure hurt to the marrow of my bones. :'( Never had the heart to get another dog. :no:
Quote from: The Troll on May 08, 2017, 03:09:16 PM
One day while playing fetch with him, he saw another dog across the road and got killed going over to see the dog. Talk about break a guy's heart, it sure hurt to the marrow of my bones. :'( Never had the heart to get another dog. :no:
Ugh, that's terrible! Each of them takes a little bit of my heart with them when they pass but I can't imagine life without them.
Quote from: Exterminator on May 09, 2017, 08:57:32 AM
Ugh, that's terrible! Each of them takes a little bit of my heart with them when they pass but I can't imagine life without them.
So true. I had an Old English Sheep Dog I found on the side of the street in a cardboard box one morning when I was walking. There was a tiny ball of fur in the corner of the box. I reached down and touched it and it moved and I realized it was a tiny puppy. I picked it up and took it home with me. She was like my 3rd child, grew up with my son and daughter. I had been in Colorado and realized when I got back she was not her usual enthusiastic self. My son took her to the vet. He said it was too late to save her. I never knew the details -- couldn't bear to think of it. She was 13. :no:
Quote from: me on April 24, 2017, 04:26:30 PM
It's part of the religion.
Quote from: The Troll on April 24, 2017, 05:00:59 PM
Yes it is and that is why their religion is evil. But we have some Christians who would do about the same thing if they could.
And now for the truth from
The alarming rise of female genital mutilation in America: (http://www.cnn.com/2017/05/11/health/female-genital-mutilation-fgm-explainer-trnd/index.html)
"It has no basis in religion...
No religious texts require FGM. Yet some cultures and sects believe the practice makes for better wives by making girls more acceptable in their communities, thus improving their eligibility for marriage. The practice aims to reduce a woman's libido to ensure premarital virginity and marital fidelity, and can be associated with being 'feminine,' 'modest,' 'clean' and 'beautiful.'
It's practiced in households at all educational levels and all social classes and occurs among many religious groups, including Muslims, Christians and animists. The origins of the practice are unclear, with historians citing evidence of it in Egyptian mummies and in the fifth century BC."So, yeah, it is not part of any religion and Christians do it, too.