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Started by Locutus, April 06, 2017, 06:27:10 PM

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  If you are going to stop murdering dictator al-Assad, you got to get his attention.   :yes:  They were right to get the air base that the poison gas came from.  :yes:  But they should have put out the lights in Syria out.  Hit every one of their power plants.   :yes: :yes: :biggrin:  No public water to drink or use, no sewer plants, no computers, no lights.  You can't pump gas at the filling station.  Really, it would get the public's attention and most likely al-Assad's attention to stop killing his people.  :haha:  :haha:

  The next time send several Cruise missiles, one to al-Assad's home, one to his country home, one to their main government building, one to his bunker and one to where he might be hiding at that time.  Oh yes, sent one to the military building where the gas attack was planned.   :haha:  :haha:  You see, I really want to kill the bastard al-Assad and his buddies.  :dead:  :dig:

Locutus

Then who fills the vacuum once he's gone?  There are numerous players on the ground in Syria and none of them are particularly good.
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The Troll

Quote from: Locutus on April 07, 2017, 05:41:10 PM
Then who fills the vacuum once he's gone?  There are numerous players on the ground in Syria and none of them are particularly good.

  Let them figure that out for themselves.   :yes:  If the bad ones win, we take care of that problem.  They should be very weak after all of that fighting and it wouldn't take much to take care of that problem.   :wink: :biggrin:

Palehorse

Quote from: The Troll on April 07, 2017, 10:38:40 PM
  Let them figure that out for themselves.   :yes:  If the bad ones win, we take care of that problem.  They should be very weak after all of that fighting and it wouldn't take much to take care of that problem.   :wink: :biggrin:

The problem with that approach is that the world philanthropies will make mince meat of the U.S. over the plight of those that are deemed collateral damage, on the world stage.

The U.S. is suffering enough diplomatically from this very issue due to the rantings and knee-jerk reactions of the Raging Cheeto, and a strategic series of strikes designed to hit high value targets that you just suggested, while it makes sense militarily, will only serve to further exacerbate this. Especially if there is no unilateral plan to transition power to one group or another. . . The fighting will continue and I assure you that Russia will leverage the circumstances to force Syria into Russian possession. No doubt about that.

There's also no doubt that this scenario will result in WWIII. . . A situation this nation is now wholly unprepared to engage within. Not without a sustained period of infrastructure bolstering and redeployment of what remains of manufacturing operations well beforehand.

Without it, we will be either overtaken or gone due to the nuclear options we will assuredly be forced to utilize.
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The Troll



  PaleHorse, since you read dreams.  :zzz:  What do you think of Nostradamus prediction of World War III starting in 2013 or in the forthcoming years in the Mideast?  Now that sounds really bad.   :think:    :grin2:

Palehorse

Quote from: The Troll on April 08, 2017, 11:16:14 AM

  PaleHorse, since you read dreams.  :zzz:  What do you think of Nostradamus prediction of World War III starting in 2013 or in the forthcoming years in the Mideast?  Now that sounds really bad.   :think:    :grin2:

I believe that things were as Nostradamus documented, when he was alive. Thing about that is that humankind has the ability to alter these predictions via modification of the behaviors and actions that lead to them; either accelerating things or pushing them out. I believe that in the time that has passed since Nostradamus made the prediction a little of both have transpired, but none-the-less we are still hell bent for leather on the path toward WWIII this day; and I believe we may very well see it come to pass within our lifetimes. . .  :mad:
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May you find charity when it is needed, and the ability to extend it when it is not. ~Palehorse 7/4/2012

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Well, this interview didn't go exactly as planned.

https://www.youtube.com/v/s3uaf1NFxXc
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me

A friend of mine, well actually an acquaintence, is in Egypt for his daughters wedding and I thought you'd like to read through the posts about what things are really like there and how they feel about Trump bombing Syria rather than news accounts. Don't know if his fb is open to the public or not but here is a link so you can check this out if you wish, I know how some of you are.  https://www.facebook.com/tommartinband

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Stacey Martin Be careful! 🙏🏼 😔
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Suzan Woods McDaniel OMG!!!!! Tommy, praying for your safety!
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Lori Lynn Kot Yes! Omg! I cant believe he is there! He needs to get himself safety home! Definitely praying! How scary!


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Kimberly Hopkins How horrible... Tom be safe
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Linda Ballenger Were you guys there when this happened ?
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Cheryl Duvall Prayers!!
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Christine Dingess Prayers
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Roe Luperena Prayers to everyone. Be safe.
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Michelle Diane 💔
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Penny Gosman Mathis Newbold OMGOODNESS praying for your safety. God Bless
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Sharon Denney- Herbert Be careful! The world has some crazy people in it
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Kathy Jaynes Weesner Praying for your protection!
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Jason Barnes Not appropriate.
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Mark Plunkett Very appropriate, if American lame stream media actually aired this kinda shit then maybe, just maybe Americans would understand that islam is not a religion of peace!!
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Bobbie Michelle Hernandez Appropriate.
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Mike Dalka I hope Tom is safe, too, Jason.
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Melissa Marie Even though I don't agree with your comment Mark , I do agree this is appropriate. It's what's going on in our world . Just not there but everywhere . Pray for your safety .
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Troy Dilley ? Just wondering, can you explain that statement? Not encouraging conflict at all, but I'm just curious as to why....?
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Mark Plunkett What part did you not agree with Melissa Marie?
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Melissa Marie Pertaining to Islam is not a religion of peace .


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Dylan Martin Be carefull Tom Martin
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Allison Catron How terrible! Prayers
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Kathy Pearl Dear God how horrible! This is why they must be stopped.
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Hilary Groce That is so sad prayers to them all. Prayers for your safe travels also.
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Lori Kees Oh my gosh....unbelievable!
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Amy Jo George Wow talk about the reality of terrorists. Jesus Christ
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Marlena Montgomery-Martin Please keep keep all of you safe. Praying for all of you...
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Susan Sexton Martin Tom, be careful. I had no idea you was over there.
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Thomas Poe I think he means he visited that city when his daughter got married over there.
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Susan Sexton Martin No, he is there, visiting his daughter.
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Thomas Poe Oh, ok... hope he has safe travels.
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Tom Martin No worries

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Amanda Burris Ballenger So sad ! Lots of prayers!
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Rosemary R Adams How horrible....be safe Tom.
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Cheryl A. Turner Tom are you okay??
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Mary Mansfield God with you...for safety ...prayers for all...so sad
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April Hedgecraft Sending prayers! Be safe!
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Bill Wagner Horrible. Man is worst than any animal. Evil lurks with human beings. 😡
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Ibn Elbanna For those who don't know exactly about what happened, we, the Egyptians, don't see these explosions a lot and most of us know who is the real culprit. Sometimes the government here bombs the mosques and churches to try to cause division and divert the attention away from important issues for example: The government and the President are selling two of our islands to the Saudi government and when we tried to talk about it on Facebook and mass media, they started the attacks. So we know about their tricks. We Muslims are so sad about it and we are the ones who support them. They are using the policy of "divide and conquer" But we know better and this will never make the Christians hate us but rather we have become more united. By the way dad and Miranda and I are okay and thank you for asking about us.

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Cheryl A. Turner 3 bombings since Miranda has been there is a lot when you're wondering if your loved ones are dead or not.
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Jeanvieve Nicole Wallick This very same thing has happened on U.S. soil too! It is called a false flag attack. Divide and conquer! We all need to unite against the machine of government.
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Carol Lenahan This has always been my thoughts too, that the President and the other countries governments are only "playing" the world for their own benefits.



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Kim Reeves Fink Be safe
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Heather M. Bailey Prayers ,that is horrible
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Donna McPherson God help them
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Rebecca King-Smith Prayers for you and all of the families that suffered love one's today. God be with you
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Liz Niles Oh My Gosh! So horrible! Prayers going up for everyone.
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Rachel Kalman yet these images will never make the media because they may be too graphic.... EFF ISIS
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Cathy Shields Horrible. Prayers for all.
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Angie Szewczak May God be with you, and everyone there. Praying for you
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Pebbles Clint Caudill Shocking for us to see but I'm sure it's been worse on you and family. Prayers sent.
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Bonnie Coates Prayer's! How scarey is that!
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Ronnie Sosbe This is very sad.prayers sent to all family members. ...may GOD shine his light on this .....christian and i dont care who knows it
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Katrina Henry I think its in the blood line.


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Stacia Lucius Hurt Prayers for your safety and all involved! Such evil in this world...very sad
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Teresa Chowning Madison Please be safe!
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Jodigurl Parrish Was it a suicide bomber that walked into the church? And was you there when this happened? Glad your safe!. That's so sad and wrong on so many levels!😟
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Amy Harris How sad for everyone. Be safe and I will pray for you and those who are suffering
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Patricia Sharp Did you take thes pictures, Tom ? This is horible. Heard on the news that one was a suicide bomber and the other someone taped a bomb under one of the seats. How close are you to this ?
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Tom Martin I am here visiting my daughter, my Egyptian son-in-law and his family. One of his fb friends is a local reporter here and posted the pictures. They live in a smaller town outside of Tanta, but we were there shopping the night before this happened. Many locals here believe their own, and other corrupt governments may be involved, as no one knows or has ever seen ISIS.
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Tom Martin All of the Muslims I have met here are passive and don't believe in violence. Many have a great respect for Americans, and are praising Trump for taking action against the Syrian president.
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Staci Mccrackin I can't stop crying .... this is too sad and real and Evil
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Treva Lawson Brown Please come home
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Bob Ousley wow ol buddy---please be safe while your there---ISIS SUCKS--and needs to be destroyed!!
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Diana Garrard Coy Be safe
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Carol Lenahan Be Safe, Tom Martin !! Still, get out of there asap if you can. Prayers for you, your family and for all wounded or killed. and their families. :(
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Exterminator

Am I the only one who thinks this entire incident is nothing more than a show by all of the involved parties?
Arguing with Christians is like playing chess with a pigeon.  No matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock over the pieces, shit on the board and strut around like it's victorious.

The truth is slow, but relentless. Over time it becomes irresistible.

Palehorse

Quote from: Exterminator on April 10, 2017, 09:05:56 AM
Am I the only one who thinks this entire incident is nothing more than a show by all of the involved parties?

The insidious nature of the "game" being played by world leaders all but assures someone's meat curtains are going to get bruised and WWIII will ensue.

I somewhat agree a lot of this is saber rattling, but in this global environment it will lead to division and war. . . (Worse division than this nation is enduring as I write this.)
R.I.P. - followsthewolf - You are MISSED! 4/17/2013

That which fails to kill me. . .should run!

Any "point" made by one that lacks credibility, is only as useful as toilet paper; and serves the same purpose. ~ Palehorse 4/22/2017

May you find charity when it is needed, and the ability to extend it when it is not. ~Palehorse 7/4/2012

To the last, I grapple with thee; From Hell's heart, I stab at thee; For hate's sake, I spit my last breath at thee.~Herman Melville

Exterminator

Quote from: Palehorse on April 10, 2017, 11:56:44 AM
I somewhat agree a lot of this is saber rattling...

No, I don't mean saber rattling at all.  I mean that Putin and Trump joined forces to orchestrate the entire thing.  If the two are working behind the scenes on an agenda favorable to Russia's interests, both needed to make it appear as though they are not as friendly as the evidence suggests.  What better way than a false flag chemical attack followed by a (largely non-destructive) missile attack against an ally of the Kremlin?
Arguing with Christians is like playing chess with a pigeon.  No matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock over the pieces, shit on the board and strut around like it's victorious.

The truth is slow, but relentless. Over time it becomes irresistible.

Henry Hawk

Quote from: Exterminator on April 10, 2017, 12:52:19 PM
No, I don't mean saber rattling at all.  I mean that Putin and Trump joined forces to orchestrate the entire thing.  If the two are working behind the scenes on an agenda favorable to Russia's interests, both needed to make it appear as though they are not as friendly as the evidence suggests.  What better way than a false flag chemical attack followed by a (largely non-destructive) missile attack against an ally of the Kremlin?

WOW!!!!
W.A.D.A....
"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."
Ecclesiastes 10:2 - It all makes sense to me now...


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Exterminator

Arguing with Christians is like playing chess with a pigeon.  No matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock over the pieces, shit on the board and strut around like it's victorious.

The truth is slow, but relentless. Over time it becomes irresistible.

Locutus

Quote from: Exterminator on April 10, 2017, 01:22:03 PM
W.A.D.A.?

Not even Google turned up anything on that one.  ;D
One of the gravest dangers to the survival of our republic is an ignorant electorate routinely feeding at the trough of propaganda.   -- Locutus

"We are all connected; To each other, biologically. To the earth, chemically. To the rest of the universe atomically."  -- Dr. Neil deGrasse Tyson

me

Quote from: Locutus on April 10, 2017, 03:00:33 PM
Not even Google turned up anything on that one.  ;D
All I can say is it fits Ex perfectly.  :biggrin:
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