The residents of Middleborough, Massachusetts, have had enough of this *#%@&!
And on Monday night they voted to make those who curse put their money where their potty mouths are - to the sum of $20, that is.
Police in the town of 22,000 will be writing tickets bearing fines in that amount to those who foul its public places with profanity after residents voted 183-50 Monday night that they were mad as *#%@& and weren't going to take it anymore.. . .
http://news.blogs.cnn.com/2012/06/12/massachusetts-town-puts-20-fine-on-profanity/?hpt=hp_t3
(http://news.blogs.cnn.com/2012/06/12/massachusetts-town-puts-20-fine-on-profanity/?hpt=hp_t3)
Sometime ago I stated that local and state municipalities will start digging deep in order to make up for the loss of revenues due to the burgeoning foreclosures, driven by the unemployment and economic decline; and here is a primary example.
How this bullshit is not declared unconstitutional is beyond me! :mad: :mad: :mad:
(I wonder if someone in Mass. reads this can I be fined?) :spooked: :mad: :mad: :mad:
Fuck them. :biggrin:
Actually, I not so sure I disagree with this. When my daughters were very young, I was known to confront some vulgar sob's who would spout off that shit very loudly in public. To this day, I hate going out to eat and listen to some mfucker at the bar throwing the f-bomb.
Quote from: Exterminator on June 12, 2012, 11:39:02 AM
Fuck them. :biggrin:
. . .And the horse they rode in on! :biggrin:
Quote from: Olias on June 12, 2012, 11:46:02 AM
Actually, I not so sure I disagree with this. When my daughters were very young, I was known to confront some vulgar sob's who would spout off that shit very loudly in public. To this day, I hate going out to eat and listen to some mfucker at the bar throwing the f-bomb.
You shouldn't take your young daughters to a bar to eat. :razz:
Quote from: Exterminator on June 12, 2012, 11:48:12 AM
You shouldn't take your young daughters to a bar to eat. :razz:
:biggrin:
Point taken. But that wasn't the case. I objected to profanity in very public places - shopping, at the beach, etc.
Quote from: Olias on June 12, 2012, 11:50:55 AM
:biggrin:
Point taken. But that wasn't the case. I objected to profanity in very public places - shopping, at the beach, etc.
So basically you just didn't want to hear:
Shit, Piss, Fuck, Cunt, Cocksucker, Motherfucker and Tits
....while out in public. :biggrin:
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/2e/Jesus_is_coming.._Look_Busy_%28George_Carlin%29.jpg/240px-Jesus_is_coming.._Look_Busy_%28George_Carlin%29.jpg)
Quote from: Olias on June 12, 2012, 11:46:02 AM
Actually, I not so sure I disagree with this. When my daughters were very young, I was known to confront some vulgar sob's who would spout off that shit very loudly in public. To this day, I hate going out to eat and listen to some mfucker at the bar throwing the f-bomb.
I disagree and strongly. This impedes freedom of speech.
In situations wherein you are exposed to such language you are free to go elsewhere, which is what I do when I am accompanied by children. And educating your children on the fact that such language is improper and unacceptable is a basic job responsibility as a parent.
Moreover, establishments that want to nurture a family friendly environment are within their rights to refuse service to individuals using such language; all they have to do is post warning notices surrounding such. (Granted, in the current economic environment most will be likely not very motivated to do so).
The Indpls Colts have a section (or sections) that are clearly identified as "family zones", and strictly prohibit the use of profanity under the threat of expulsion from the premises.
While most of us may not find profanity acceptable in a family environment, I for one do not want to impede upon my fellow man's constitutional right to use it if they feel the need to do so.
Besides, "fuck" and its variables are pretty much required phrases within the east coast dialect. (In my experience). I've worked for some businesses wherein unless you used the word your colleagues wouldn't understand the seriousness of your perspective! :big grin:
Quote from: Locutus on June 12, 2012, 11:55:22 AM
So basically you just didn't want to hear:
Shit, Piss, Fuck, Cunt, Cocksucker, Motherfucker and Tits
....while out in public. :biggrin:
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/2e/Jesus_is_coming.._Look_Busy_%28George_Carlin%29.jpg/240px-Jesus_is_coming.._Look_Busy_%28George_Carlin%29.jpg)
Shit, piss, DAMN, FUCK, cock-sucker, mother-fucker, and tits. :icon_twisted: (You forgot one and added one) :biggrin:
http://www.youtube.com/v/F4HW3ZU_lPM
Looks like I stand corrected. . . I could have sworn the 8-track / LP of this routine contained the what I quoted, but this says I was wrong! :biggrin:
I am 100% behind PH on this.......my kids understand that is just they was some people are.......I will not tolerate it from them, but have no control of what other people or thier kids say or do.
Quote from: Palehorse on June 12, 2012, 12:03:22 PM
http://www.youtube.com/v/F4HW3ZU_lPM
Looks like I stand corrected. . . I could have sworn the 8-track / LP of this routine contained the what I quoted, but this says I was wrong! :biggrin:
Yeah, I was getting ready to point that out but you beat me to it. ;D
Quote from: Palehorse on June 12, 2012, 11:56:57 AM
Besides, "fuck" and its variables are pretty much required phrases within the east coast dialect. (In my experience). I've worked for some businesses wherein unless you used the word your colleagues wouldn't understand the seriousness of your perspective! :biggrin:
:biggrin:
This is
hilarious, but
DO NOT PLAY AT THE OFFICE UNLESS YOU HAVE EARPHONES ON YOUR COMPUTER!...or unless you just don't give a fuck. ;D
http://www.youtube.com/v/CCcCzj_yRtk
Here is the General Bobby Knights take on the word...
http://viraltoob.com/media/coach-bobby-knight-explains-the-f-word (http://viraltoob.com/media/coach-bobby-knight-explains-the-f-word)
Well, I guess I must be a tad old-fashioned, but I believe that there are certain rules for a civilized society, and I will not bend on this.
What if I played that clip Locutus posted at the office without earphones? Would my boss understand my constitutional right to free speech? I guess I would be free to look for a job elsewhere. :wink:
Quote from: Olias on June 12, 2012, 12:12:37 PM
What if I played that clip Locutus posted at the office without earphones? Would my boss understand my constitutional right to free speech? I guess I would be free to look for a job elsewhere. :wink:
That's why I put that big bold warning on there. ;D
Don't get me wrong. I really like George Carlin. Always have. But I know in advance what I'm gonna get when I listen to him.
Oh that video I posted wasn't Carlin. It was a 2-minute demonstration on the versatility of the word fuck. Listen to it later when you're home. It really is funny.
Quote from: Olias on June 12, 2012, 12:12:37 PM
. . .
What if I played that clip Locutus posted at the office without earphones? Would my boss understand my constitutional right to free speech? I guess I would be free to look for a job elsewhere. :wink:
You would be out, because corporations do NOT have to respect your constitutional rights and are free to trample them at will; legally.
As I've written here before, fools step in ... but here I go. On this one I totally agree with Olias. Some of my very favorite people cuss, but they don't inflict it on everyone. My favorite boss, who became my mentor and good friend, was a Navy Commander in Vietnam who ended up at the Pentagon. I spent more time with him than I did with my own family, and it was probably 5 years before I ever heard a cuss word come out of his mouth, and that was by accident: ours was a large office with military and civilians, and one day I walked by while he was standing with a group of Navy guys in animated conversation. And the words I heard come out of his mouth ... :eek: ... he didn't know I saw him and heard what he was saying, and I never hinted that I knew. And yes, the F word was one of them.
So he cussed like a sailor? :biggrin:
Quote from: Locutus on June 12, 2012, 02:38:59 PM
So he cussed like a sailor? :biggrin:
And apparently inflicted it on everyone as well...at least once. :wink:
Quote from: Locutus on June 12, 2012, 02:38:59 PM
So he cussed like a sailor? :biggrin:
Yes. ;D They were a very interesting group. Another time they were discussing something that, to an observer, looked like all business. But when I got closer -- they were talking about their favorite Seinfeld episodes.
Quote from: libby on June 12, 2012, 02:51:34 PM
Yes. ;D They were a very interesting group. Another time they were discussing something that, to an observer, looked like all business. But when I got closer -- they were talking about their favorite Seinfeld episodes.
Not that there's anything wrong with that... :biggrin:
I agree with Olias and Libby on this one. I never heard my dad say a cuss word and he was in the Navy for almost 20 years. My father-in-law, on the other hand, couldn't string three words together without two of them being profanity. Took me a long time to get used to that. I think if you are in a private situation, go to it, but in a public situation it is only common courtesy to watch what you say in general conversation. My son was in the Navy for 8 years and curses all the time, except around me because he knows I don't approve.
Quote from: Anne on June 12, 2012, 03:43:23 PM
I agree with Olias and Libby on this one. I never heard my dad say a cuss word and he was in the Navy for almost 20 years. My father-in-law, on the other hand, couldn't string three words together without two of them being profanity. Took me a long time to get used to that. I think if you are in a private situation, go to it, but in a public situation it is only common courtesy to watch what you say in general conversation. My son was in the Navy for 8 years and curses all the time, except around me because he knows I don't approve.
So you guys are in favor of police passing out tickets to anyone who cusses in public?
What if I don't like the way someone dresses or it offends me to look at fat people; should we legislate that, too?
Uh oh! I see Ex and HH on the same side of this issue. There are icicles forming in hell. ;D
Quote from: Exterminator on June 12, 2012, 03:55:05 PM
What if I don't like the way someone dresses or it offends me to look at fat people; should we legislate that, too?
Sure. We could use fewer fat people anyway. :wink:
Quote from: Locutus on June 12, 2012, 03:58:45 PM
Uh oh! I see Ex and HH on the same side of this issue. There are icicles forming in hell. ;D
:spooked: :biggrin:
Quote from: Henry Hawk on June 12, 2012, 03:47:11 PM
So you guys are in favor of police passing out tickets to anyone who cusses in public?
Nope!!!!! When are the nuts going to stop trying to destroy our Constitution. Know some and reading about cops, they can put enough heat on these teenagers without breaking our Constitution. All teenagers spit, litter, all teenagers don't have any money and put curfews on them, use the laws on the books and burn their ass. :rant:
Don't hurt the many for a few fools. :yes: :yes: :salute:
Quote from: Henry Hawk on June 12, 2012, 03:47:11 PM
So you guys are in favor of police passing out tickets to anyone who cusses in public?
NO.
Quote from: Exterminator on June 12, 2012, 03:55:05 PM
What if I don't like the way someone dresses or it offends me to look at fat people; should we legislate that, too?
NO. Read what Anne wrote.
Quote from: Locutus on June 12, 2012, 02:38:59 PM
So he cussed like a sailor? :biggrin:
I speak fluent sailor. Anyone need an interpreter? ;D
Quote from: Sandy Eggo on June 12, 2012, 07:42:37 PM
I speak fluent sailor. Anyone need an interpreter? ;D
Ahoy. :pirate: :titanic:
Quote from: Anne on June 12, 2012, 03:43:23 PM
I agree with Olias and Libby on this one. I never heard my dad say a cuss word and he was in the Navy for almost 20 years. My father-in-law, on the other hand, couldn't string three words together without two of them being profanity. Took me a long time to get used to that. I think if you are in a private situation, go to it, but in a public situation it is only common courtesy to watch what you say in general conversation. My son was in the Navy for 8 years and curses all the time, except around me because he knows I don't approve.
So, the three of you agree that it is a good idea for the police to issue tickets to people who use profane language? THAT is what this post is all about.
I am curious to know if you really believe that is the right thing to do?
How about NY City, outlawing "Large" sugary drinks? Is that something we should sit back and allow?
There is one thing that will never change is someone trying to change some one else's morals or business. But this law is to try to stop kids from cussing is a case of fulititly. Just make the cops more hated, more cop power and we have to much of that now. :yes:
There is some many thing on the books to keep the kids on the straight and narrow and remove them from these areas that is causing problems for the business area.
Just put a TV camera in plain sight and start the tape running, it sure slowed the problems on school buses. Then anything, spitting on the sidewalk, fighting of any kind. littering, being a vagrant, without any visual support, laundering, blocking assess to a business. Just the visual the the pictures shown to parents should make is so unpleasant the kid will find something else to harass the adult population, just like we did when we were young. :yes: :biggrin:
Sure these cameras would cost a little money, not an arm and a leg. But after the kids are gone the camera will provide safety for the street for years. :yes: Business has had cameras in their businesses for years. Just move a couple of camera outside with sound. Another tax on morals? It won't work. :rant:
Cursing in public is certainly bad taste, but it shouldn't be illegal.
Smacks too much of puritanism.
Let's just put 'em in the stocks and throw rotten veggies at 'em.
Quote from: Henry Hawk on June 13, 2012, 06:51:20 AM
So, the three of you agree that it is a good idea for the police to issue tickets to people who use profane language? THAT is what this post is all about.
I am curious to know if you really believe that is the right thing to do?
No. But that doesn't change my attitude about excessive profanity in
public.
Quote from: Henry Hawk on June 13, 2012, 06:51:20 AM
How about NY City, outlawing "Large" sugary drinks? Is that something we should sit back and allow?
No.
Let's take this a step further. After all, where do we draw the line?
Why is public sex illegal? If you're on the beach with your family and then a couple comes up next to you, spreads out their blanket, and then proceed to the porking, what's wrong with that?
Quote from: Olias on June 13, 2012, 08:34:20 AM
No. But that doesn't change my attitude about excessive profanity in public.
btw, I am not a fan of profanity in
public either...I am not advocating it....just think we should not be passing out tickets to those who do.
Quote from: Henry Hawk on June 13, 2012, 08:52:12 AM
btw, I am not a fan of profanity in public either...I am not advocating it....just think we should not be passing out tickets to those who do.
Well ... I am advocating sex in public. It sure would be a hell of a lot cheaper than having to get a room. :biggrin:
Quote from: Olias on June 13, 2012, 09:03:21 AM
Well ... I am advocating sex in public. It sure would be a hell of a lot cheaper than having to get a room. :biggrin:
I'm not sure if I could "work" in that kind of pressure, with an audience.... :biggrin: It WOULD put a twist on going to the beach...
Quote from: Henry Hawk on June 13, 2012, 09:17:22 AM
I'm not sure if I could "work" in that kind of pressure, with an audience.... :biggrin: It WOULD put a twist on going to the beach...
It isn't work to me.
And the beach is no place for it.
One little grain of sand in the wrong place can ruin a person's afternoon -- and plumbing.
Quote from: Henry Hawk on June 13, 2012, 06:51:20 AM
So, the three of you agree that it is a good idea for the police to issue tickets to people who use profane language? THAT is what this post is all about. ....
Quote from: libby on June 12, 2012, 06:37:39 PM
NO. Read what Anne wrote.
Quote from: libby on June 12, 2012, 06:33:19 PM
NO.
:rolleyes: And once again, the answer is: NO.
Quote from: libby on June 13, 2012, 10:36:08 AM
:rolleyes: And once again, the answer is: NO.
but you all agreed with Olias, who said he did not disagree with the law........
excuse me if I took your answer the wrong way.
I was just wanting to be clear...
Quote from: Henry Hawk on June 13, 2012, 11:21:26 AM
but you all agreed with Olias, who said he did not disagree with the law........
Do you have a reading disability? Go back and look at what I really said.
Quote from: Olias on June 13, 2012, 11:24:14 AM
Do you have a reading disability? Go back and look at what I really said.
You said:
Quote
Actually, I not so sure I disagree with this
No, I have no reading disability.
Quote from: Henry Hawk on June 13, 2012, 11:34:32 AM
No, I have no reading disability.
Look again .... I sure wish I could draw a picture for you .....
What I said was ...
"
not so sure I disagree with this"
Quote from: Olias on June 13, 2012, 11:38:29 AM
Look again .... I sure wish I could draw a picture for you .....
What I said was ...
" not so sure I disagree with this"
whatever.... I think your words clearly indicate that you meant it was not a bad idea.
but, If I am wrong. I apologize. THAT is the way I "took it".
Quote from: Henry Hawk on June 13, 2012, 11:40:46 AM
THAT is the way I "took it".
And that is why I truly believe that you have a comprehension problem.
Quote from: Olias on June 13, 2012, 12:06:20 PM
And that is why I truly believe that you have a comprehension problem.
I have zero problem with YOU believing that. I will NOT lose ONE second of sleep, knowing that YOU think I have a comprehension problem...zero.
Quote from: Henry Hawk on June 13, 2012, 11:21:26 AM
but you all agreed with Olias, who said he did not disagree with the law........
excuse me if I took your answer the wrong way.
I was just wanting to be clear...
:laugh: Sometimes I confuse myself.
Quote from: libby on June 13, 2012, 02:29:09 PM
:laugh: Sometimes I confuse myself.
;D this place can make you that way!... :razz: :biggrin:
Quote from: followsthewolf on June 13, 2012, 10:21:22 AM
It isn't work to me.
And the beach is no place for it.
One little grain of sand in the wrong place can ruin a person's afternoon -- and plumbing.
Oh Ho, my friend the wolf. It sure sounds to me like you have done a little porking on a sandy beach or ground. Hee, hee. :biggrin: It ain't fun is it. :wink: :smile:
Quote from: Henry Hawk on June 13, 2012, 02:45:43 PM
;D this place can make you that way!... :razz: :biggrin:
It seems tame compared to Hey Martha. That was my first chat room/forum and it was close to being shut down before I figured out :idea2: that there were many more characters than there were real people.
Quote from: libby on June 13, 2012, 02:29:09 PM
:laugh: Sometimes I confuse myself.
But, back to the issue of what is acceptable in public. I still agree with Olias and Anne that it would be nice if everybody behaved in public, but we all know it ain't gonna happen, and I sure don't want behavior police lurking around watching me and ... uh ... er ... ::) :spooked:. Guess I'd better get back to work.
Quote from: libby on June 14, 2012, 10:55:19 AM
But, back to the issue of what is acceptable in public. I still agree with Olias and Anne that it would be nice if everybody behaved in public, but we all know it ain't gonna happen, and I sure don't want behavior police lurking around watching me and ... uh ... er ... ::) :spooked:. Guess I'd better get back to work.
If you read the papers and watch the news. Look at all the laws pass to give police more power. All of the police abuse, I would really like to know how many people the cops beat and shoot to death every year. The number grows and grows and they all get off. :rant:
We are now living in a police state and if something isn't done, it's going to get worse. Especially since the politicians are making the cops revenue collectors to make money for the powers that be. Towns, cities, counties, states, federal government, cops, lawyers and judges. It sure is a money making, deadly racket. :rant: :angry:
who gets the money? is there a swear jar? we had a swear jar my kids made a fortune from neigbors, uncles and their dad. it was a gaint plastic coke bottle.
Quote from: damfast on June 16, 2012, 11:12:07 PM
who gets the money? is there a swear jar? we had a swear jar my kids made a fortune from neigbors, uncles and their dad. it was a gaint plastic coke bottle.
How much money did you put in Sweetie. :wink: :smile:
i will only admit to a couple of quarters. hahaha. i dont swear much, sounds funny coming out. people just laugh and say, "oh really?"
Just more authoritarianism and an excuse to make a tax that raises revenue without calling it a tax and being charged with raising taxes.
People never seem to learn.
Quote from: Y on June 24, 2012, 10:00:06 PM
Just more authoritarianism and an excuse to make a tax that raises revenue without calling it a tax and being charged with raising taxes.
People never seem to learn.
Nope, and I warned everyone this kind of crap was coming down the pike quite sometime ago! :yes: