Obama will use Memorial weekend for a trip home to Chicago
By Anne E. Kornblut
With the long Memorial Day weekend on the horizon, President Obama is finally addressing one of the great broken promises of his administration: his early pledge to return home to Chicago every six weeks or so.
In 16 months at the White House, the Obamas have been back home just once - in February of 2009. But they plan to make the trip over Memorial Day weekend, an official said. After arriving on Thursday night, they will visit with friends and participate in private events.
On Monday, Obama will make remarks at the Abraham Lincoln National Cemetery, south of Chicago - missing the usual tradition of presidents speaking at Arlington National Cemetery on Memorial Day.
Vice President Biden and his wife will appear in Obama's place, laying a wreath at the Tomb of the Unknown Soldier, as well as holding a breakfast for Gold Star families -- families whose loved ones died in military service -- at the White House earlier that day.
http://voices.washingtonpost.com/44/2010/05/obama-will-use-memorial-weeken.html?wprss=44
:end: Where are you leading with this. :stirthepot: Drinking the :koolaid: again. :kissit: You and Herry can have this one all to yourselves. Where were you when George W. was home in Texas so many, many times. This topic isn't worth my time.
The Troll :wink: :biggrin:
OMG! It's SO clear to me now! Thank you! Obama is obviously a liar! Good grief, it's not like he's been busy running a country or anything. He should go home more often. Oh! and to have his V.P stand in for him at a national ceremony proves that he has a liberal agenda! *sarcasm*
Seriously, so?
Quote from: Sandy Eggo on May 27, 2010, 07:16:58 AM
OMG! It's SO clear to me now! Thank you! Obama is obviously a liar! Good grief, it's not like he's been busy running a country or anything. He should go home more often. Oh! and to have his V.P stand in for him at a national ceremony proves that he has a liberal agenda! *sarcasm*
Seriously, so?
I'll help you out on this one, for sure, Sandy. :sarcasm: :sarcasm: :sarcasm: :sarcasm:
Well and not only is he running the country, but he is also a parent of school aged children. Only so many 3 day weekends available to take your kids on a trip.
I don't feel TOO sorry for him, he has managed to squeeze in 32 rounds of golf, but only ONE (1) news conference since last summer.....
I'm surprised that someone hasn't been called, clearly his liberal agenda threatens the well being of those chidren!
(thinking like a right wingding is hysterical :biggrin:)
Quote from: Henry Hawk on May 27, 2010, 08:29:41 AM
I don't feel TOO sorry for him, he has managed to squeeze in 32 rounds of golf, but only ONE (1) news conference since last summer.....
What in hell do you care, you don't believe a word he says. It would be a waste of time trying to talk to you about anything.
All you do is ask questions and never answer any and the only problem solving idea you have is cut taxes. Right, Henry.
right troll...
Huh. . .and this is news because?
I don't recall anyone castigating the Shrub when he chose to stay in Texas on Memorial Day during his presidency. . .
A visit to Arlington is not mandatory, although I myself would be very disappointed in him if he chose to ignore this national period of remembrance of those who have served; but he isn't. He is instead visiting another National Cemetery in his home state in order to recognize those that have served, and it is just as much an honor!
How fair is it for the head of state to always mark this occasion by visiting the very same site when the nation is full of identical sites that are the final resting places of our honorable ancestors? Or are those interred at Arlington the only ones deserving of such an honor?
Just to make it clear, I don't have any problem with Obama going to Chicago for Memorial Day weekend....
PH, believe me, Bush made ALL sorts of news similar to this....for just as lame reasons.....
I really don't have any problem with Obama playing golf....I just think it needed to be reminded...
All the POTUS' have their escapes, and ways to deal with the pressure...
though I am not an Obama fan...........I know he is under an enormous amount of pressure....these are some pretty rough times.
Interesting, I just posted the article and didn't say a word but ya'll jumped on it like a mad dog. Yer such good little sheeples.
Quote from: Sandy Eggo on May 27, 2010, 07:16:58 AM
OMG! It's SO clear to me now! Thank you! Obama is obviously a liar! Good grief, it's not like he's been busy running a country or anything. He should go home more often. Oh! and to have his V.P stand in for him at a national ceremony proves that he has a liberal agenda! *sarcasm*
Seriously, so?
Quote from: The Troll on May 27, 2010, 07:01:05 AM
:end: Where are you leading with this. :stirthepot: Drinking the :koolaid: again. :kissit: You and Herry can have this one all to yourselves. Where were you when George W. was home in Texas so many, many times. This topic isn't worth my time.
The Troll :wink: :biggrin:
Quote from: kimmi on May 27, 2010, 08:24:34 AM
Well and not only is he running the country, but he is also a parent of school aged children. Only so many 3 day weekends available to take your kids on a trip.
Quote from: Sandy Eggo on May 27, 2010, 08:45:13 AM
I'm surprised that someone hasn't been called, clearly his liberal agenda threatens the well being of those chidren!
(thinking like a right wingding is hysterical :biggrin:)
Quote from: Palehorse on May 27, 2010, 09:18:51 AM
Huh. . .and this is news because?
I don't recall anyone castigating the Shrub when he chose to stay in Texas on Memorial Day during his presidency. . .
A visit to Arlington is not mandatory, although I myself would be very disappointed in him if he chose to ignore this national period of remembrance of those who have served; but he isn't. He is instead visiting another National Cemetery in his home state in order to recognize those that have served, and it is just as much an honor!
How fair is it for the head of state to always mark this occasion by visiting the very same site when the nation is full of identical sites that are the final resting places of our honorable ancestors? Or are those interred at Arlington the only ones deserving of such an honor?
;D
So now stating my position on a given subject is "jumping on it like a mad dog"?
Don't bitch when you get bit then. . .
welcome to our world PH.... ;)
Quote from: Henry Hawk on May 27, 2010, 10:46:39 AM
welcome to our world PH.... ;)
When did you get a copyright on it? :rolleyes:
Oh, I forgot! Its the "way" of the party!
don't need to get nasty, just sayin me and I, seem to get treated that way ALL the time on here, so it was kind of humorous to me (myself) to me's reaction.....
it seems like (not just you) but people on here sure do love to dish it out, but act very different when it they tables get turned....
Seriously "me"? No wonder you're so easily lead. I didn't "jump" on anything especially in "mad dog" form. I made fun of the right wing and asked you "so" what. Which you still didn't answer. I don't see news here, so what's your point.
I still don't see any validation for the "mad dog" accusation. . .
When the posted article starts with :. . ." President Obama is finally addressing one of the great broken promises of his administration: his early pledge to return home to Chicago every six weeks or so.". . it is pretty clear what the intention of the posting and article is. . .
In a typical response the opposition wants to blow any response out of proportion and spin it. . . How droll. . .
You wonder why we jump you like mad dogs. Well, you never have anything good about Obama or the Deomcrats no matter what he does. Make fun, stab him in the back, snicker, make fun and out right lie about him and most of the stuff you say is bullshit and stupid.
Hell we know what you're going to say before you say it. You're so easy.
Quote from: me on May 27, 2010, 10:16:15 AM
Interesting, I just posted the article and didn't say a word but ya'll jumped on it like a mad dog. Yer such good little sheeples.
Given your history here, do you really think that we didn't know your intent in posting that? What surprises me is that you didn't claim he was off to tour the "non-existent" vineyards in England - or maybe a tour of Henry's luxury prison.
:biggrin:
Quote from: Olias on May 27, 2010, 12:42:09 PM
Given your history here, do you really think that we didn't know your intent in posting that? What surprises me is that you didn't claim he was off to tour the "non-existent" vineyards in England - or maybe a tour of Henry's luxury prison.
you need to get some new material...
Quote from: Sandy Eggo on May 27, 2010, 11:10:18 AM
Seriously "me"? No wonder you're so easily lead. I didn't "jump" on anything especially in "mad dog" form. I made fun of the right wing and asked you "so" what. Which you still didn't answer. I don't see news here, so what's your point.
Curiosity just plain curiosity and you've done quite well at doing the expected. You jumped to the conclusion, assumed as it were, that the headline was a slam when it could have been read to mean he was finally breaking a promise in the right way. Like I said, ya'll are good little sheeples. Ya'll, not the story HH, or me, turned what could have been a civil conversation about how nice it was Obama was going to get to spend some time with friends and family over the holidays into a pissing match because that is what would be expected. Wake up and think for yourselves for pete's sake and quit parroting garbage which is what you're doing.
Nice try, but considering that it came from someone who critisizes EVERTHING about the president, it doesn't fly.
Maybe you should take a look at Y's processing information thread. :yes:
Quote from: me on May 27, 2010, 01:00:39 PM
Curiosity just plain curiosity and you've done quite well at doing the expected. You jumped to the conclusion, assumed as it were, that the headline was a slam when it could have been read to mean he was finally breaking a promise in the right way. Like I said, ya'll are good little sheeples. Ya'll, not the story HH, or me, turned what could have been a civil conversation about how nice it was Obama was going to get to spend some time with friends and family over the holidays into a pissing match because that is what would be expected. Wake up and think for yourselves for pete's sake and quit parroting garbage which is what you're doing.
Me, this is the most hypocritical group I have ever been around....seriously!!...I have said this a hundred times on here, but some folks really need to take a good long look in the mirror....
they can say what you said about them to us, and THEY are being honestly intellectual.....THEY think for themselves....it gets SO frustrating it is almost comical.......almost, not quite though.
So, what do you see when you look in a mirror, Henry?
If it's anything less than what you try to sling at everyone else (except those who think like you and are guilty of the same) then you're lying to yourself. :yes:
Ya know, as of the last few months, I don't like what I see in the mirror.....WHEN I am on this forum.....I have reduced myself down to the lowest common denominator on here, just to TRY to converse on here....
I have put up with a lot of shit on here for several years, and always found a way to laugh it off....but, it is not as easy these days.....maybe it is because I am getting older and don't have the patience that I used too.
This has become like a bad addiction....I can't get myself to walk away from here...I know I'm not going to change anything or anybody.....and debating on here is the same as always....I think I have run my coarse here....I just cant find the passion to express myself with anyone here......it is way tooo unbalanced.
http://www.youtube.com/v/YlLqBIk4kiQ
Maybe you should take a look at it too. Y is a progressive from what I see and I definitely don't see eye to eye with progressives. Dem's suck but progressive's are worse.
Quote from: Sandy Eggo on May 27, 2010, 01:23:18 PM
Nice try, but considering that it came from someone who critisizes EVERTHING about the president, it doesn't fly.
Maybe you should take a look at Y's processing information thread. :yes:
It is very sad that you only have three colors in your paint pallet. Coloring everyone with the same brush is very boring.
Henry - exactly, but IMO the satisfaction should be in the fun of discussion and exploring ideas which are sometimes adverse to our own. Otherwise we become frustrated b/c our ideas aren't changing the ideas of others. We can't expect that our thoughts will lead to an epiphany, but we can hope that someone understands our view.
me - you missed the point.
Kimmi - :yes:
Uh, no. I didn't.
Quote from: Sandy Eggo on May 27, 2010, 02:59:23 PM
Henry - exactly, but the satisfaction should be in the fun of discussion and exploring ideas which are sometimes adverse to out own. Otherwise we become frustrated b/c our ideas aren't changing the ideas of others. We can't expect that our thoughts will lead to an epiphany, but we can hope that someone understands our view.
me - you missed the point.
Kimmi - :yes:
Quote from: Henry Hawk on May 27, 2010, 01:40:47 PM
I have put up with a lot of shit on here for several years, and always found a way to laugh it off....but, it is not as easy these days.....maybe it is because I am getting older and don't have the patience that I used too.
Or maybe it's because there's now a Democrat in the White House and a black one at that. :razz:
Quote from: me on May 27, 2010, 02:17:51 PM
Maybe you should take a look at it too. Y is a progressive from what I see and I definitely don't see eye to eye with progressives. Dem's suck but progressive's are worse.
That's interesting. I'd like to hear you expound on that a bit as well as your reasoning behind it.
pro·gres·sive
/prəˈgrɛsɪv/ Show Spelled[pruh-gres-iv] Show IPA
–adjective
1. favoring or advocating progress, change, improvement, or reform, as opposed to wishing to maintain things as they are, esp. in political matters: a progressive mayor.
2. making progress toward better conditions; employing or advocating more enlightened or liberal ideas, new or experimental methods, etc.: a progressive community.
3. characterized by such progress, or by continuous improvement.
Quote from: Sandy Eggo on May 27, 2010, 02:59:23 PM
Henry - exactly, but the satisfaction should be in the fun of discussion and exploring ideas which are sometimes adverse to out own. Otherwise we become frustrated b/c our ideas aren't changing the ideas of others. We can't expect that our thoughts will lead to an epiphany, but we can hope that someone understands our view.
Sandy, I have been struggling with this issue for months now.....I know it is more of a personal ordeal with myself than anyone else.....I can and maybe should just walk away from this, but because of the relationships, I find that it is hard for me to do....this has become part of my routine....but I think there is not much else for me to say....I am firmly rooted in my opinions and the way things SHOULD be....my skin is not as thick as it once was....and communicating my thoughts with written words in a short time frame is NOT my strong point....(after all these years ya think I would have it down by now)...
Kimmi your analogy is not really an accurate one the way I see it.....I love all sorts of colors, but some colors are just not compatable with others....they clash when they are next too each other....and that is the problem here, the way I see it.
Quote from: Locutus on May 27, 2010, 03:06:13 PM
Or maybe it's because there's now a Democrat in the White House and a black one at that. :razz:
THAT right there is the BULLSHIT THAT I AM TALKING ABOUT!!!!
"Me" Yes, you did, but I wouldn't expect you to understand how.
Quote from: Henry Hawk on May 27, 2010, 03:11:04 PM
THAT right there is the BULLSHIT THAT I AM TALKING ABOUT!!!!
:rotfl: :rotfl:
I knew I'd getcha' on that one. :biggrin:
Seriously though, the past few years on here, the Shrub was in charge so regardless of the goings on here, you rested comfortably in the fact that nothing being discussed in here had any chance of becoming reality with the Republicans firmly in control. Now that the shoe's on the other foot, I really do think that's contributed somewhat to your struggles around here. :yes:
Henry, you may be surprised to know that I understand how you feel, but I'm hijacking this thread. Sometime when I see you online and I'm home, maybe we can go into the chat area and talk.
It's a little long but you might want to read this. http://www.heritage.org/Research/Reports/2007/07/The-Progressive-Movement-and-the-Transformation-of-American-Politics
Quote from: Locutus on May 27, 2010, 03:08:37 PM
That's interesting. I'd like to hear you expound on that a bit as well as your reasoning behind it.
pro·gres·sive
/prəˈgrɛsɪv/ Show Spelled[pruh-gres-iv] Show IPA
–adjective
1. favoring or advocating progress, change, improvement, or reform, as opposed to wishing to maintain things as they are, esp. in political matters: a progressive mayor.
2. making progress toward better conditions; employing or advocating more enlightened or liberal ideas, new or experimental methods, etc.: a progressive community.
3. characterized by such progress, or by continuous improvement.
Quote from: me on May 27, 2010, 02:17:51 PM
Maybe you should take a look at it too. Y is a progressive from what I see and I definitely don't see eye to eye with progressives. Dem's suck but progressive's are worse.
Kimmi your analogy is not really an accurate one the way I see it.....I love all sorts of colors, but some colors are just not compatable with others....they clash when they are next too each other....and that is the problem here, the way I see it.
Really? Looks like you paint groups of people with the same brush to me!
Quote from: kimmi on May 27, 2010, 03:59:34 PM
Really? Looks like you paint groups of people with the same brush to me!
maybe you are colored blind?... ;) :razz:
Quote from: Henry Hawk on May 27, 2010, 12:45:30 PM
you need to get some new material...
The old horse ain't dead yet. :biggrin:
Quote from: me on May 27, 2010, 10:16:15 AM
Yer such good little sheeples.
:biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin:
Coming from someone who posted that trash about grapes in England without even bothering to check out its veracity, I would say that is the epitome of hypocrisy.
Quote from: Olias on May 27, 2010, 04:26:09 PM
:biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin:
Coming from someone who posted that trash about grapes in England without even bothering to check out its veracity, I would say that is the epitome of hypocrisy.
Thats ok baby cakes I realize they can grow them now but there was a brief period of time when they couldn't and it was written about by one of your own who was trying to explain why that mini ice age wasn't caused by man but global warming is.
Quote from: me on May 27, 2010, 04:59:21 PM
Thats ok baby cakes I realize they can grow them now but there was a brief period of time when they couldn't and it was written about by one of your own who was trying to explain why that mini ice age wasn't caused by man but global warming is.
Never met the dude. How can he be one of mine? And at least I had the gumption to check out that story to see if it was true.
:snopes:
Quote from: Olias on May 27, 2010, 05:14:20 PM
Never met the dude. How can he be one of mine? And at least I had the gumption to check out that story to see if it was true.
:snopes:
He's one of those "global warming" idiots like you.
4 pages of validation of your baiting. . .
Meanwhile:
S T I L L S P E W I N G
Quote from: Henry Hawk on May 27, 2010, 04:06:04 PM
maybe you are colored blind?... ;) :razz:
I doubt it. As an educator and a member of the human race, I don't categorize people I don't know. I cannot say all Republicans are assholes. I don't know them all. I paint with lots of colors. I don't see people for their affiliations, race, language, sexual preference, age, etc... That goes on enough in this world.
Quote from: Palehorse on May 27, 2010, 05:58:46 PM
4 pages of validation of your baiting. . .
Meanwhile:
S T I L L S P E W I N G
It was explained and I will go no further with it. I intended it one way and ya'll interpreted it just the way I figured because that's what you're supposed to do. Like I said you're good little sheeples. Vilify, discredit, and silence.
Quote from: kimmi on May 27, 2010, 06:01:32 PM
I doubt it. As an educator and a member of the human race, I don't categorize people I don't know. I cannot say all Republicans are assholes. I don't know them all. I paint with lots of colors. I don't see people for their affiliations, race, language, sexual preference, age, etc... That goes on enough in this world.
I don't think any of us on here really do but since we're limited to only words on posts in threads it might appear that way sometimes. I have four very close friends who share the same opinions as a lot of you and one who has the same as mine but we don't let that get in the way of our friendship because we all know there is more to us than just our opinions on certain subjects. I hope that made sense.
Quote from: me on May 27, 2010, 06:56:59 PM
I don't think any of us on here really do but since we're limited to only words on posts in threads it might appear that way sometimes. I have four very close friends who share the same opinions as a lot of you and one who has the same as mine but we don't let that get in the way of our friendship because we all know there is more to us than just our opinions on certain subjects. I hope that made sense.
:shrug: NOPE. :wink: :smile:
Quote from: kimmi on May 27, 2010, 06:01:32 PM
I doubt it. As an educator and a member of the human race, I don't categorize people I don't know. I cannot say all Republicans are assholes. I don't know them all. I paint with lots of colors. I don't see people for their affiliations, race, language, sexual preference, age, etc... That goes on enough in this world.
Kimmi, I can tell you for a fact, I do not judge ANYONE by their race or color..........but, there are some things that are simple facts.....there are assholes in this world and there are good people. Most of my friends that are Conservatives feel the same way....We have been so "stereotyped" for years now. Some of the most raciest folks I know are the old die-hard dixie democrats......
The only person I have become critical of is POLITICIANS, and especially those who are favoring SOCIALISTIC ideologies.....I am a CONSERVATIVE....and I don't care if some one is GAY, or MALE, FEMALE, or what SKIN COLOR....I want people in Washington who are of the ideology of the Reagan Conservative....that is it....and I can tell you MOST Conservatives feel the same way.......
I'm not a Dixie Democrat, but you could be right, Henry. I'm a Democrat and I'm racy. ;D
Quote from: me on May 27, 2010, 03:02:20 PM
Uh, no. I didn't.
This:
Quote from: me on May 27, 2010, 02:17:51 PM
Maybe you should take a look at it too. Y is a progressive from what I see and I definitely don't see eye to eye with progressives. Dem's suck but progressive's are worse.
and this:
Quote from: me on May 27, 2010, 03:40:38 PM
It's a little long but you might want to read this. http://www.heritage.org/Research/Reports/2007/07/The-Progressive-Movement-and-the-Transformation-of-American-Politics
http://theunknownzone.us/smf/index.php?topic=16976.0
prove that you did.
I bet you still don't get why I'd think you might get something beneficial from that thread. ;D
Just proves my point actually and you probably don't understand why I say that.
Quote from: Sandy Eggo on May 28, 2010, 10:38:12 AM
This:
and this:
http://theunknownzone.us/smf/index.php?topic=16976.0
prove that you did.
I bet you still don't get why I'd think you might get something beneficial from that thread. ;D
(Page 5)
Still Spewing! :rotfl:
Quote from: me on May 28, 2010, 11:17:05 AM
Just proves my point actually and you probably don't understand why I say that.
Well I know I can't understand and from what I can see not many other normal people can understand you. :point:
You're right, me, I don't. I don't think it's worth the effort of connecting dots when there isn't a picture.
Let's see, HH and I have been called bigots, racists, idiots, nazi's, and a score of other things for having differences of opinions and told our sources were not good enough. Anyone who doesn't agree with the current administration is also said to be hate mongers and uneducated....shall I go on? Look in the mirror guy's just look in the mirror.
Quote from: The Troll on May 28, 2010, 12:09:01 PM
Well I know I can't understand and from what I can see not many other normal people can understand you. :point:
Quote from: Sandy Eggo on May 28, 2010, 12:26:47 PM
You're right, me, I don't. I don't think it's worth the effort of connecting dots when there isn't a picture.
Quotehttp://www.propagandacritic.com/articles/ct.wg.name.html
The name-calling technique links a person, or idea, to a negative symbol. The propagandist who uses this technique hopes that the audience will reject the person or the idea on the basis of the negative symbol, instead of looking at the available evidence.
The most obvious type of name calling involves bad names. For example, consider the following:
* Commie
* Fascist
* Pig
* Yuppie
* Bum
* Queer
* Terrorist
http://theunknownzone.us/smf/index.php?topic=16976.msg360153#msg360153
There's a difference between personal attacks and broad statements that cut a swath through humanity. . . Learning the difference can extend your life span. . .
How can calling HH and me that in posts be considered a broad statement? Also why is it different to call a group of people that than to call an individual that? There is no basis for calling any group that who is opposed to the policies of this administration any more than there was for those who opposed the Bush administrations policies. The Bush administration didn't try to silence their critics or "teach" them. They didn't demonize or try to discredit those who opposed. Why is it different now? Why are those who have different opinions suddenly uneducated and ignorant?
Quote from: Palehorse on May 28, 2010, 06:43:02 PM
There's a difference between personal attacks and broad statements that cut a swath through humanity. . . Learning the difference can extend your life span. . .
Quote from: me on May 28, 2010, 06:53:37 PM
How can calling HH and me that in posts be considered a broad statement? Also why is it different to call a group of people that than to call an individual that? There is no basis for calling any group that who is opposed to the policies of this administration any more than there was for those who opposed the Bush administrations policies. The Bush administration didn't try to silence their critics or "teach" them. They didn't demonize or try to discredit those who opposed. Why is it different now? Why are those who have different opinions suddenly uneducated and ignorant?
:bsflag: :bsflag: :bsflag: :bsflag:
Quote from: Palehorse on May 28, 2010, 06:43:02 PM
There's a difference between personal attacks and broad statements that cut a swath through humanity. . . Learning the difference can extend your life span. . .
fist of all, ME and I, are the only ones on here that are reading this....this is NOT a nationwide filled forum, there are a handful of us who are here regularly, so who else is it aimed at?...your only point is to slam us....or at least that is the way I take it....maybe I"m wrong....but, I do take these attacks as somewhat personal...for that reason...
Huh, and here I thought California, Illinois, Indiana, and a host of other states did constitute a nation. Silly me, guess I need reprogramming. . .
Quote from: Palehorse on May 28, 2010, 07:13:52 PM
Huh, and here I thought California, Illinois, Indiana, and a host of other states did constitute a nation. Silly me, guess I need reprogramming. . .
just sayin....
What time is my appointment with the death squad again?
:lipsrsealed2:
So, jow is "me" missing the first post in the thread and how is "me" excluding herself from being guilty of the same behavior she's accusing everyone else of, from the later part of the thread?
Think me think.
I made the first post in this thread and I wasn't calling anyone anything, in fact, I didn't even make a comment about it at all.
So, you had no intentions whatsoever, even if you've never had a nice thing to say about Obama. As a matter of fact, you've never had a neutral thing to say.
Be that as it may, if your intentions were honestly benign, then why put this in the unmoderated area?
Your actions speak for you, when your words don't AND you didn't stop w/the first post.
Quote from: Sandy Eggo on May 29, 2010, 05:34:57 AM
So, you had no intentions whatsoever, even if you've never had a nice thing to say about Obama. As a matter of fact, you've never had a neutral thing to say.
Be that as it may, if your intentions were honestly benign, then why put this in the unmoderated area?
Your actions speak for you, when your words don't AND you didn't stop w/the first post.
The time I've been on the Zone, anytime "ME" mentioned Obama it was bad, smart Ass, sneer or a setup to say something bad about him. I have never heard her say anything good about Obama, the Democratic Party or the Unions.
Even tho, she is or has receive the benefits of what the Democrats and the Union have done for her and this country.
When I came on the Unknown Zone, my first questions were, name 5 things the Republican Party has done for the working man or woman. The only answers I got was, cut taxes, cut taxes, cut taxes. Not one other thing.
After "ME" voting for George W. and Dick Cheney twice and for the old fart John McCain and the brain Sara Paylin, I can't consider her an authority on anything political. After what her Republican Party and their greed and their way of thinking has put the country so close to a Hoover Depression it isn't even funny. What is so bad is, it isn't over yet and the Republicans walking in lockstep (goose step) and saying NO to everything isn't helping.
The Troll :trustme:
I put it here because I knew what the reaction was going to be so I figured I'd make it easy on ya. HH and I both started out disliking congress and you all told us it was Obama we didn't like, well, now it is some of Obama's policies we don't like which still has nothing to do with the man. You just keep proving Y's point over and over but you still don't see it.
Quote from: Sandy Eggo on May 29, 2010, 05:34:57 AM
So, you had no intentions whatsoever, even if you've never had a nice thing to say about Obama. As a matter of fact, you've never had a neutral thing to say.
Be that as it may, if your intentions were honestly benign, then why put this in the unmoderated area?
Your actions speak for you, when your words don't AND you didn't stop w/the first post.
Translation: You were baiting. At least be honest about it. As for the rest, I doubt you know enough about what his point was to be a judge as to whether or not someone else is proving it. If you can't find something in his posts to use as constructive advice then I can't help you.
Troll, carry on buddy - this is silly.
Like biting air.
Quote from: Sandy Eggo on May 29, 2010, 04:35:44 PM
Translation: You were baiting. At least be honest about it. As for the rest, I doubt you know enough about what his point was to be a judge as to whether or not someone else is proving it. If you can't find something in his posts to use as constructive advice then I can't help you.
Troll, carry on buddy - this is silly.
It is silly, but it does bother me when someone who is going to or are receiving some of the finest benefits like Social Security and Medicare and many other things, can't see what side the bread is buttered on.
There are some people who are just haters and hate just for the love of hating.
The Troll :help: :groan:
Not baiting just foresight. You're just taking it as baiting because that's the only thing you know so you have to twist it to justify your reaction.
Quote from: Sandy Eggo on May 29, 2010, 04:35:44 PM
Translation: You were baiting. At least be honest about it. As for the rest, I doubt you know enough about what his point was to be a judge as to whether or not someone else is proving it. If you can't find something in his posts to use as constructive advice then I can't help you.
Troll, carry on buddy - this is silly.
Quote from: me on May 29, 2010, 09:35:57 PM
Not baiting just foresight. You're just taking it as baiting because that's the only thing you know so you have to twist it to justify your reaction.
Ha! Like you aren't twisting like a cheap nylon in a hurricane! :rotfl:
Quote from: Palehorse on May 29, 2010, 09:43:04 PM
Ha! Like you aren't twisting like a cheap nylon in a hurricane! :rotfl:
And she just as funny as the oil spill in the Gulf. :wacko:
Quote from: Palehorse on May 29, 2010, 09:43:04 PM
Ha! Like you aren't twisting like a cheap nylon in a hurricane! :rotfl:
Just tellin' it like it is. I told you why I posted it here no twistin' just fact I didn't post any remark at all you just ran with it and turned it into something which wasn't intended and now you're twisting it to make it look like I'm the one who is in the wrong. It would have been the same if I had posted it in the moderated area. It isn't my fault the reporter phrased the heading the way he did.
Quote from: me on May 30, 2010, 01:40:30 AM
Just tellin' it like it is. I told you why I posted it here no twistin' just fact I didn't post any remark at all you just ran with it and turned it into something which wasn't intended and now you're twisting it to make it look like I'm the one who is in the wrong. It would have been the same if I had posted it in the moderated area. It isn't my fault the reporter phrased the heading the way he did.
"ME"ism, ain't my fault :bliss: ain't my fault :bliss: ain't my fault :bliss:
I, "ME", I wouldn't do anything like that. :drool1: :witch: Drinking the koolaid :koolaid:
:wink: :smile: :biggrin: The Troll :seeya2:
Quote from: The Troll on May 30, 2010, 07:47:29 AM
"ME"ism, ain't my fault :bliss: ain't my fault :bliss: ain't my fault :bliss:
I, "ME", I wouldn't do anything like that. :drool1: :witch: Drinking the koolaid :koolaid:
:wink: :smile: :biggrin: The Troll :seeya2:
Ya dumb ass I told him what to write. I'm solely responsible for what all newspapers print and how they word their headlines. Happy now pukwudgie?
Quote from: me on May 30, 2010, 09:21:42 AM
Ya dumb ass I told him what to write. I'm solely responsible for what all newspapers print and how they word their headlines. Happy now pukwudgie?
Thank you for your half-assed apology. Your such a :sweetheart: :biggrin:
Quote from: me on May 27, 2010, 12:38:59 AM
Obama will use Memorial weekend for a trip home to Chicago
By Anne E. Kornblut
With the long Memorial Day weekend on the horizon, President Obama is finally addressing one of the great broken promises of his administration: his early pledge to return home to Chicago every six weeks or so.
In 16 months at the White House, the Obamas have been back home just once - in February of 2009. But they plan to make the trip over Memorial Day weekend, an official said. After arriving on Thursday night, they will visit with friends and participate in private events.
On Monday, Obama will make remarks at the Abraham Lincoln National Cemetery, south of Chicago - missing the usual tradition of presidents speaking at Arlington National Cemetery on Memorial Day.
Vice President Biden and his wife will appear in Obama's place, laying a wreath at the Tomb of the Unknown Soldier, as well as holding a breakfast for Gold Star families -- families whose loved ones died in military service -- at the White House earlier that day.
http://voices.washingtonpost.com/44/2010/05/obama-will-use-memorial-weeken.html?wprss=44
Same ole' same ole'.
Pimpin' for the Cult of the Warrior (http://theunknownzone.us/smf/index.php?topic=16268.0)
:rolleyes:
Quote from: The Troll on May 27, 2010, 07:01:05 AM
:end: Where are you leading with this. :stirthepot: Drinking the :koolaid: again. :kissit: You and Herry can have this one all to yourselves. Where were you when George W. was home in Texas so many, many times. This topic isn't worth my time.
The Troll :wink: :biggrin:
You have posted a couple more times since you posted this.
I thought this thread was not worth your time?
Oh you must be the wishy washy one on this site?
Oh wait, I have already read several wishy washy posters.
Quote from: rotflmao on May 30, 2010, 01:44:49 PM
You have posted a couple more times since you posted this.
I thought this thread was not worth your time?
Oh you must be the wishy washy one on this site?
Oh wait, I have already read several wishy washy posters.
A person who never changes his mind is an idiot. Just like George W. over his time in office and two wars. He never change his mind.
Now what is you frame of mind. Want to fill us in. It sound like you want a war of words. As old George W. said, BRING IT ON.
THE TROLL :flag: :no1: :salute:
Quote from: rotflmao on May 30, 2010, 01:44:49 PM
You have posted a couple more times since you posted this.
I thought this thread was not worth your time?
Oh you must be the wishy washy one on this site?
Oh wait, I have already read several wishy washy posters.
Well, Mr. :rotfl: mao, I see your a Newbie with 4 posts, only 4 posts and you have your mouth open like a baby Robin. Being a Newbie you might not know, a baby Robin is a baby bird who always has it's mouth open and full of shit.
So quit reading so much and start writting. But remember, make sure what you say can be backed upped. Because there are members, here who likes young fresh meat and the first thing they do is bit off your head.
The Troll :rotfl: :rotfl: :dark: :seeya2:
Welcome aboard rotflmao looking forward to posting with you whether your of the same or the opposing opinion as me. It will be good to have fresh input either way. :yes:
Quote from: me on May 30, 2010, 03:49:58 PM
Welcome aboard rotflmao looking forward to posting with you whether your of the same or the opposing opinion as me. It will be good to have fresh input either way. :yes:
Thank you for the welcome.
Quote from: The Troll on May 30, 2010, 02:57:22 PM
Well, Mr. :rotfl: mao, I see your a Newbie with 4 posts, only 4 posts and you have your mouth open like a baby Robin. Being a Newbie you might not know, a baby Robin is a baby bird who always has it's mouth open and full of shit.
So quit reading so much and start writting. But remember, make sure what you say can be backed upped. Because there are members, here who likes young fresh meat and the first thing they do is bit off your head.
The Troll :rotfl: :rotfl: :dark: :seeya2:
Troll, apt name buy the way, a baby robin? 4 posts on this site is to you as if I am a baby robin? As if you or any internet site determined who I am. Troll, I did not pop out of cyber space this morning, I have had a full and rewarding life so far with or without your input.
I am certain I will be able to point out the shit in your mouth easier than you will mine.
Quote from: The Troll on May 30, 2010, 02:57:22 PM
Well, Mr. :rotfl: mao, I see your a Newbie with 4 posts, only 4 posts and you have your mouth open like a baby Robin. Being a Newbie you might not know, a baby Robin is a baby bird who always has it's mouth open and full of shit.
So quit reading so much and start writting. But remember, make sure what you say can be backed upped. Because there are members, here who likes young fresh meat and the first thing they do is bit off your head.
The Troll :rotfl: :rotfl: :dark: :seeya2:
Troll, my question to you was and is...you had posted that you were not going to keep posting on this thread as it was not worth your time.
Are you a liar?
Are you an attention seeker?
Why are you still posting?
Do you ever keep your word or just type posts because you can't help yourself?
Quote from: rotflmao on May 30, 2010, 10:02:29 PM
Troll, my question to you was and is...you had posted that you were not going to keep posting on this thread as it was not worth your time.
Are you a liar?
Are you an attention seeker?
Why are you still posting?
Do you ever keep your word or just type posts because you can't help yourself?
:sarcasm: :turk: :finger2: :kissit: The Troll :salute:
Quote from: rotflmao on May 30, 2010, 09:58:25 PM
Troll, apt name buy the way, a baby robin? 4 posts on this site is to you as if I am a baby robin? As if you or any internet site determined who I am. Troll, I did not pop out of cyber space this morning, I have had a full and rewarding life so far with or without your input.
I am certain I will be able to point out the shit in your mouth easier than you will mine.
Did I get under your skin, Baby Robin, I just change your name. :rotfl: That's the name I'm going to use. Unless you want to lighten up a little.
You came storming in with some smart remarks. Oh, by the way, printing in color isn't all that impressive. It seems a little *****.
The Troll :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :dark: :seeya2: Boy is your name easy rotfl and add : : :rotfl:
Quote from: The Troll on May 30, 2010, 11:05:02 PM
:sarcasm: :turk: :finger2: :kissit: The Troll :salute:
that's my ass, must be your lips
Quote from: The Troll on May 30, 2010, 11:20:18 PM
Did I get under your skin, Baby Robin, I just change your name. :rotfl: That's the name I'm going to use. Unless you want to lighten up a little.
You came storming in with some smart remarks. Oh, by the way, printing in color isn't all that impressive. It seems a little *****.
The Troll :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :dark: :seeya2: Boy is your name easy rotfl and add : : :rotfl:
No so babycakes Robin. :finger01: :finger2: You got a brown film over over your eyes, it was your lips on my ass, now clean your keyboard. :suck: :suck: :suck: :rotfl: :rotfl:
Quote from: The Troll on May 29, 2010, 06:44:53 AM
When I came on the Unknown Zone, my first questions were, name 5 things the Republican Party has done for the working man or woman. The only answers I got was, cut taxes, cut taxes, cut taxes. Not one other thing.
The Troll :trustme:
Wow, I most have been out that day, because this would have been an easy one..
1. The Civil Rights Act of 1964 was a good one that probably helped out the working man more than anything....
2. They passed the 15th Admendment......allowing African Americans the right to vote....
3. The 1981 Economic Recovery Act.....got ALL of the working "man" BACK to work...and TRULY stimulated America....
4. The Contract with America....1994, helped President Clinton get re-elected and restored some pride in Gov...
5. Welfare Reform (1996)...or the
Personal Responsibility and Work Opportunity Reconciliation Act of 1996...which lead to a decline in Welfare and poverty rates...
not that I am tryin to hi-jack this thread, but I read this and these just came to my mind and could not resist to post them...
Quote from: Henry Hawk on June 01, 2010, 09:18:27 AM
Wow, I most have been out that day, because this would have been an easy one..
1. The Civil Rights Act of 1964 was a good one that probably helped out the working man more than anything....
2. They passed the 15th Admendment......allowing African Americans the right to vote....
3. The 1981 Economic Recovery Act.....got ALL of the working "man" BACK to work...and TRULY stimulated America....
4. The Contract with America....1994, helped President Clinton get re-elected and restored some pride in Gov...
5. Welfare Reform (1996)...or the Personal Responsibility and Work Opportunity Reconciliation Act of 1996...which lead to a decline in Welfare and poverty rates...
not that I am tryin to hi-jack this thread, but I read this and these just came to my mind and could not resist to post them...
There you go again, I ask for 5 things the Republican Party has done for the working man, not including tax cuts.
Your #1 The Civil Rights Act of 1964 was born in the Kennedy Presidentsy. It was a Kenndey bill.
Your #2 was a tax cut bill. For the rich from 70% down to 50%. The middle class from 25% to 23%. WOW!
Your #3 1994 Contract for America helped get Clinton relected. Now thats's pure BS. It was to elect Republicans With this contract for America was the start and has caused all of the problems we have to day. Newt Grindridge's contract for America has cause all of these problems we are having now.
Your #4, 1994 Walfare Reform. Clinton's oftrepeated campaign promise "To end walfare as we know it".
Nice try Henry, see I told you. The Republican Party is the party of the rich and corporations. One of the laws they passed, a Phill Gramm law a Republican from Texas, which removed all of the relegalation on the banks and the Stock Market had on them. See what happened. Oh, it's Obama problem now.
spin it Troll!! spin it!!!!.... ;D
1. get your facts straight now...The House of Representatives passed the bill by 289 to 126, a vote in which 79% of Republicans and 63% of Democrats voted yes. The Senate vote was 73 to 27, with 21 Democrats and only 6 Republicans voting no. President Johnson signed the new Civil Rights Act into law on July 2, 1964....the bill was an update of Republican Senator Charles Sumner's 1875 Civil Rights Act...It was a Republican federal judge who desegregated many public facilities in the South. Appointed by President Eisenhower in 1955, Frank Johnson had overturned Montgomery, Alabama's infamous "blacks in the back of the bus" law in his very first decision. During the 1960s, Judge Johnson continued to advance civil rights despite opposition from George Wallace, Lester Maddox, and other Democrat Governors.
2. I noticed you didn't touch this one.... ;D that darned ol 15th admendment....
3. THOSE nasty tax cuts for the rich from 70% to 50% was what SPURRED economic growth....THOSE guys expanded buisness....where the hell was you back then.....I remember it clearly, as our economy went from double digit interest rates to single....double digit unemployment to 5%.....and halted the inflation rate.....THAT helped the "working man" incredibley...
4. The Contract with America is WHY Bill Clinton was a success....
5. see note 4.... ;)
Obama should have taken a page out of history and FIXED this problem that we are now facing.....instead he is doing the exact opposite.....
Quote from: Henry Hawk on June 01, 2010, 03:56:58 PM
spin it Troll!! spin it!!!!.... ;D
1. get your facts straight now...The House of Representatives passed the bill by 289 to 126, a vote in which 79% of Republicans and 63% of Democrats voted yes. The Senate vote was 73 to 27, with 21 Democrats and only 6 Republicans voting no. President Johnson signed the new Civil Rights Act into law on July 2, 1964....the bill was an update of Republican Senator Charles Sumner's 1875 Civil Rights Act...It was a Republican federal judge who desegregated many public facilities in the South. Appointed by President Eisenhower in 1955, Frank Johnson had overturned Montgomery, Alabama's infamous "blacks in the back of the bus" law in his very first decision. During the 1960s, Judge Johnson continued to advance civil rights despite opposition from George Wallace, Lester Maddox, and other Democrat Governors.
2. I noticed you didn't touch this one.... ;D that darned ol 15th admendment....
3. THOSE nasty tax cuts for the rich from 70% to 50% was what SPURRED economic growth....THOSE guys expanded buisness....where the hell was you back then.....I remember it clearly, as our economy went from double digit interest rates to single....double digit unemployment to 5%.....and halted the inflation rate.....THAT helped the "working man" incredibley...
4. The Contract with America is WHY Bill Clinton was a success....
5. see note 4.... ;)
Obama should have taken a page out of history and FIXED this problem that we are now facing.....instead he is doing the exact opposite.....
He's trying and the Republicans are fighting it. Their fighting against everything. If they are so smart and intelligent, why arn't they bringing up some of their own bills? Hell, they got all of the new media to preach it.
Why not, the Republicans are in the pockets of the Corporatiions.
Quote from: Henry Hawk on June 01, 2010, 03:56:58 PM
spin it Troll!! spin it!!!!.... ;D
1. get your facts straight now...The House of Representatives passed the bill by 289 to 126, a vote in which 79% of Republicans and 63% of Democrats voted yes. The Senate vote was 73 to 27, with 21 Democrats and only 6 Republicans voting no. President Johnson signed the new Civil Rights Act into law on July 2, 1964....the bill was an update of Republican Senator Charles Sumner's 1875 Civil Rights Act...It was a Republican federal judge who desegregated many public facilities in the South. Appointed by President Eisenhower in 1955, Frank Johnson had overturned Montgomery, Alabama's infamous "blacks in the back of the bus" law in his very first decision. During the 1960s, Judge Johnson continued to advance civil rights despite opposition from George Wallace, Lester Maddox, and other Democrat Governors.
2. I noticed you didn't touch this one.... ;D that darned ol 15th admendment....
3. THOSE nasty tax cuts for the rich from 70% to 50% was what SPURRED economic growth....THOSE guys expanded buisness....where the hell was you back then.....I remember it clearly, as our economy went from double digit interest rates to single....double digit unemployment to 5%.....and halted the inflation rate.....THAT helped the "working man" incredibley...
4. The Contract with America is WHY Bill Clinton was a success....
5. see note 4.... ;)
Obama should have taken a page out of history and FIXED this problem that we are now facing.....instead he is doing the exact opposite.....
He took the wrong page. He, instead, is using the Roosevelt one.
Quote from: me on June 01, 2010, 04:32:43 PM
He took the wrong page. He, instead, is using the Roosevelt one.
Well, dumbass, that a better plan than Newt's and Phill Gramms ever did. Roosevelt's work for over 65 years. Newt's never worked. Phill Gramms worked long enough to destroy this country after 8 years of George W.
If it wasn't for Social security and Medicare, you wouldn't have it good as you have it now.
Quote from: The Troll on June 01, 2010, 04:32:21 PM
Why not, the Republicans are in the pockets of the Corporatiions.
I got news for you....Corporations are in the back pocket of ALL politicians....and NOW that the Dems are in control, the amount of Corporate donations to the dems has passed the repubs..
http://www.seattlepi.com/opinion/379678_campaignfundsonline19.html (http://www.seattlepi.com/opinion/379678_campaignfundsonline19.html)
they will go after WHO ever is in charge....the article is kind of interesting.....the repubs was in charge for several years and many of those old farts are about to be replaced....
but back to my point.....the repubs has done wonderful things for the working man....now can YOU name five things that the dems have done to "help" the working man?
Quote from: The Troll on June 01, 2010, 04:53:34 PM
Well, dumbass,
oh, YOU don't call anyone names do ya.... :razz: :)
Quote from: Henry Hawk on June 01, 2010, 04:54:24 PM
oh, YOU don't call anyone names do ya.... :razz: :)
Well, just a little, I could have been badder. :kickcan: :kickcan: Welllllll, what's a few dumbasses
betweem friends. :love: :sweetheart: :doh: The Troll :no1:
Quote from: The Troll on June 01, 2010, 10:44:59 PM
. . .. :kickcan: :kickcan: Welllllll, what's a few dumbasses
betweem friends. :love: :sweetheart: :doh: The Troll :no1:
They are called republicans! :biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin:
Quote from: Palehorse on June 02, 2010, 10:41:45 AM
They are called republicans! :biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin:
you should be on Jay Leno!!!! you are a regular Don Rickles!!.....He is here all week folks!!.....and don't forget to try the veal!!!
Quote from: Henry Hawk on June 02, 2010, 10:45:57 AM
you should be on Jay Leno!!!! you are a regular Don Rickles!!.....He is here all week folks!!.....and don't forget to try the veal!!!
I think Letterman would be the better choice. Same mindset. ;)
Quote from: me on May 27, 2010, 05:56:36 PM
He's one of those "global warming" idiots like you.
Like me? :rolleyes: Name calling only shows your true intellect - or lack thereof.
Quote from: Olias on June 03, 2010, 10:03:09 AM
Like me? :rolleyes: Name calling only shows your true intellect - or lack thereof.
Just stooping to your level is all so maybe you'll understand. :razz:
Quote from: me on June 03, 2010, 11:11:23 AM
Just stooping to your level is all so maybe you'll understand. :razz:
My level? Then try checking out your "facts" :rolleyes: before you post them.