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Henry Hawk

#135
June 15, 2009, 09:19:18 AM
Why in the world, are we not building more nuclear power plants?....

Why?
"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."
Ecclesiastes 10:2 - It all makes sense to me now...


"The future ain't what it used to be."– Yogi Berra

"Square roots are rarely found on any plant." FTW

Palehorse

#136
June 15, 2009, 10:01:28 AM
Quote from: Henry Hawk on June 15, 2009, 09:19:18 AM
Why in the world, are we not building more nuclear power plants?....

Why?

I believe that to be a good question Henry!

Illinois has a boat-load of them, and the cooling lakes provide excellent fishing opportunities as well. . . They provide efficient energy generation, etc.

I think 3 Mile Island scared us though. . .(as it should have).
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Any "point" made by one that lacks credibility, is only as useful as toilet paper; and serves the same purpose. ~ Palehorse 4/22/2017

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Bo D

#137
June 15, 2009, 10:12:50 AM
Quote from: Palehorse on June 15, 2009, 10:01:28 AM
I believe that to be a good question Henry!

Illinois has a boat-load of them, and the cooling lakes provide excellent fishing opportunities as well. . . They provide efficient energy generation, etc.

I think 3 Mile Island scared us though. . .(as it should have).

Chernobyl scared us even more!

But ... how many people have been killed/injured in coal mining accidents? How many people have been killed/injured in nuclear plant accidents?
"Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former."  Carl Sagan

Palehorse

#138
June 15, 2009, 10:23:11 AM
Quote from: Bo D on June 15, 2009, 10:12:50 AM
Chernobyl scared us even more!

But ... how many people have been killed/injured in coal mining accidents? How many people have been killed/injured in nuclear plant accidents?

We're a bit more advanced than Russia in this area. . . at least we were. . .

Exactly. . .
R.I.P. - followsthewolf - You are MISSED! 4/17/2013

That which fails to kill me. . .should run!

Any "point" made by one that lacks credibility, is only as useful as toilet paper; and serves the same purpose. ~ Palehorse 4/22/2017

May you find charity when it is needed, and the ability to extend it when it is not. ~Palehorse 7/4/2012

To the last, I grapple with thee; From Hell's heart, I stab at thee; For hate's sake, I spit my last breath at thee.~Herman Melville

Henry Hawk

#139
June 15, 2009, 11:00:42 AM
It would/could create THOUSANDS of jobs and reduce or dependence on foreign fuels...also, it produces NO greenhouse gases...over the last forty years of this production in the Unidted States, not one single fatality has occurred as a result of the operation of a civilian nuclear power plant...

Why is it okay for us to support Iran to get it, but NOT here in the states?

What is the REAL reason why, many liberals do not want it?
"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."
Ecclesiastes 10:2 - It all makes sense to me now...


"The future ain't what it used to be."– Yogi Berra

"Square roots are rarely found on any plant." FTW

Palehorse

#140
June 15, 2009, 11:05:14 AM
Quote from: Henry Hawk on June 15, 2009, 11:00:42 AM
It would/could create THOUSANDS of jobs and reduce or dependence on foreign fuels...also, it produces NO greenhouse gases...over the last forty years of this production in the Unidted States, not one single fatality has occurred as a result of the operation of a civilian nuclear power plant...

Why is it okay for us to support Iran to get it, but NOT here in the states?

What is the REAL reason why, many liberals do not want it?

Well, actually Indiana has a few but I only know of 1, Turtle Creek, Near T.H. and west of Indy. Actually, Illinois builds them as near to the high deman areas as safely possible.

I'm betting funding is the challenge in Indiana. . . They prolly want state subsidization of construction. . .
R.I.P. - followsthewolf - You are MISSED! 4/17/2013

That which fails to kill me. . .should run!

Any "point" made by one that lacks credibility, is only as useful as toilet paper; and serves the same purpose. ~ Palehorse 4/22/2017

May you find charity when it is needed, and the ability to extend it when it is not. ~Palehorse 7/4/2012

To the last, I grapple with thee; From Hell's heart, I stab at thee; For hate's sake, I spit my last breath at thee.~Herman Melville

Exterminator

#141
June 15, 2009, 11:33:37 AM
Quote from: Henry Hawk on June 15, 2009, 11:00:42 AM
What is the REAL reason why, many liberals do not want it?

How about instead of just making up crap to blame on liberals, you actually learn something about the industry and its economics?  You might find that liberals aren't necessarily against nuclear power at all but that it isn't a simple or quick matter to actually build a nuclear plant.  And the next time you start screaming about socialism, expect me to tell you to shut your trap because nuclear power facilities are not economically viable without government funding.
Arguing with Christians is like playing chess with a pigeon.  No matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock over the pieces, shit on the board and strut around like it's victorious.

The truth is slow, but relentless. Over time it becomes irresistible.

Henry Hawk

#142
June 15, 2009, 11:44:26 AM
Quote from: Exterminator on June 15, 2009, 11:33:37 AM
How about instead of just making up crap to blame on liberals, you actually learn something about the industry and its economics?  You might find that liberals aren't necessarily against nuclear power at all but that it isn't a simple or quick matter to actually build a nuclear plant.  And the next time you start screaming about socialism, expect me to tell you to shut your trap because nuclear power facilities are not economically viable without government funding.

I have NOT made up any crap......

and IF, we are going to spend our tax dollars to BOOST our economy, THIS would be much better than ANYTHING that I have read or heard that we are doing.....

I never said it was a 'quick or simple fix'....but we got to start somewhere.....it seems to me like the best solution out there.........along with allowing to drill on our own land...IF it is logical.

as far as you telling me to shut my trap..........makes me laugh very hard...and it is only Monday!!.. ;D
"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."
Ecclesiastes 10:2 - It all makes sense to me now...


"The future ain't what it used to be."– Yogi Berra

"Square roots are rarely found on any plant." FTW

Exterminator

#143
June 15, 2009, 11:52:11 AM
Quote from: Henry Hawk on June 15, 2009, 11:44:26 AM
I have NOT made up any crap......

LMAO...dude, if it wasn't for the old biddies, you'd be the biggest perveyor of falsehoods on these forums.

Quote...and IF, we are going to spend our tax dollars to BOOST our economy, THIS would be much better than ANYTHING that I have read or heard that we are doing.....

I see...so you think you should be the one to decide when "socialism" is justified and when it's not?

QuoteI never said it was a 'quick or simple fix'....but we got to start somewhere.....it seems to me like the best solution out there.........along with allowing to drill on our own land...

And what makes you think we aren't doing that now?  How long do you think it takes to build a nuclear power plant and when do you think the last one in the U.S. came online?

QuoteIF it is logical.

Like I said, maybe you should learn something about it and decide whether or not you think it's logical before offering an opinion.  I know it's a novel idea to you...

Quote...as far as you telling me to shut my trap..........makes me laugh very hard...and it is only Monday!!.. ;D

Would you prefer, "shut your gash"?
Arguing with Christians is like playing chess with a pigeon.  No matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock over the pieces, shit on the board and strut around like it's victorious.

The truth is slow, but relentless. Over time it becomes irresistible.

Henry Hawk

#144
June 15, 2009, 12:01:52 PM
Quote from: Exterminator on June 15, 2009, 11:52:11 AM
LMAO...dude, if it wasn't for the old biddies, you'd be the biggest perveyor of falsehoods on these forums.

I see...so you think you should be the one to decide when "socialism" is justified and when it's not?

And what makes you think we aren't doing that now?  How long do you think it takes to build a nuclear power plant and when do you think the last one in the U.S. came online?

Like I said, maybe you should learn something about it and decide whether or not you think it's logical before offering an opinion.  I know it's a novel idea to you...

Would you prefer, "shut your gash"?

Gash is fine... :)......but, you really do not have a clue to what you are talking about, about half the time.. :no:...and I will not waste more time trying to make you understand, you believe what YOU want to believe, and not listen to what I have to say, other than what YOU want to comprehend, ....you are in a world of your own, aren't you?.. ;)..but anybody who cannot correctly spell purveyor, really should not be trying to give out advice about falsehoods..... :razz:
"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."
Ecclesiastes 10:2 - It all makes sense to me now...


"The future ain't what it used to be."– Yogi Berra

"Square roots are rarely found on any plant." FTW

Exterminator

#145
June 15, 2009, 12:22:33 PM
Yeah, Henry, I'm the one here in a world all his own.   Go with that.  :rolleyes:
Arguing with Christians is like playing chess with a pigeon.  No matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock over the pieces, shit on the board and strut around like it's victorious.

The truth is slow, but relentless. Over time it becomes irresistible.

Palehorse

#146
June 15, 2009, 12:50:00 PM
Quote from: Palehorse on June 15, 2009, 11:05:14 AM
Well, actually Indiana has a few but I only know of 1, Turtle Creek, Near T.H. and west of Indy. Actually, Illinois builds them as near to the high demand areas as safely possible.

I'm betting funding is the challenge in Indiana. . . They prolly want state subsidization of construction. . .

It appears I was mistaken surrounding Turtle Creek being a nuclear generation site. They are hydro from what I can determine. . . I think Indiana only has one????
R.I.P. - followsthewolf - You are MISSED! 4/17/2013

That which fails to kill me. . .should run!

Any "point" made by one that lacks credibility, is only as useful as toilet paper; and serves the same purpose. ~ Palehorse 4/22/2017

May you find charity when it is needed, and the ability to extend it when it is not. ~Palehorse 7/4/2012

To the last, I grapple with thee; From Hell's heart, I stab at thee; For hate's sake, I spit my last breath at thee.~Herman Melville

Palehorse

#147
June 15, 2009, 01:04:23 PM
http://www.eia.doe.gov/cneaf/nuclear/page/nuc_generation/gensum.html

Make that none. . . Here's a listing of capacity (MWe) for each state that has the capacity to generate nuke power: (Illinois leads the pack)

ARIZONA   3,872
ARKANSAS   1,824
CALIFORNIA 4,390
CONNECTICUT 2,037
FLORIDA   3,902
GEORGIA   4,060
ILLINOIS   11,379
IOWA   581
KANSAS   1,166
LOUISIANA   2,119
MARYLAND   1,735
MASSACHUSETTS 685
MICHIGAN   4,006
MINNESOTA 1,668
MISSISSIPPI 1,266
MISSOURI   1,190
NEBRASKA   1,242
NEW HAMPSHIRE 1,244
NEW JERSEY 3,984
NEW YORK    5,156
NORTH CAROLINA 4,975
OHIO   2,120
PENNSYLVANIA 9,268
SOUTH CAROLINA 6,472
TENNESSEE 3,398
TEXAS   4,860
VERMONT   620
VIRGINIA   3,432
WASHINGTON 1,131
WISCONSIN 1,582
R.I.P. - followsthewolf - You are MISSED! 4/17/2013

That which fails to kill me. . .should run!

Any "point" made by one that lacks credibility, is only as useful as toilet paper; and serves the same purpose. ~ Palehorse 4/22/2017

May you find charity when it is needed, and the ability to extend it when it is not. ~Palehorse 7/4/2012

To the last, I grapple with thee; From Hell's heart, I stab at thee; For hate's sake, I spit my last breath at thee.~Herman Melville

Henry Hawk

#148
June 16, 2009, 10:45:41 AM
The stimulus plan is a disaster......more at eleven!
"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."
Ecclesiastes 10:2 - It all makes sense to me now...


"The future ain't what it used to be."– Yogi Berra

"Square roots are rarely found on any plant." FTW

awol

#149
June 16, 2009, 05:28:03 PM
Quote from: Henry Hawk on June 16, 2009, 10:45:41 AM
The stimulus plan is a disaster......more at eleven!

just since obama, or was it a disaster before... when it was bush?  and it was no accountability at all, just throw money?

just askin'!

:P

miss ya hank, look me up!

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