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Palehorse

They are STILL going. I think the city of Anderson will be hearing from the residents tomorrow about this. Especially from those who have to get up at the butt crack of dawn and drive to Indpls and beyond to work!
R.I.P. - followsthewolf - You are MISSED! 4/17/2013

That which fails to kill me. . .should run!

Any "point" made by one that lacks credibility, is only as useful as toilet paper; and serves the same purpose. ~ Palehorse 4/22/2017

May you find charity when it is needed, and the ability to extend it when it is not. ~Palehorse 7/4/2012

To the last, I grapple with thee; From Hell's heart, I stab at thee; For hate's sake, I spit my last breath at thee.~Herman Melville

The Troll


  Just a little venting.   With the demise of the George W. tax cuts.  It will cost old Mitt Romney $3 million more in taxes paid.  No wonder he is running for president.  If he gets his tax cuts for millionairs through just think how much money he would save on his money the rest of his life.  WOW.  It's always about the money.   :wink:  :haha:

Henry Hawk

 
To my liberal zone buddies, I have been working diligently to express my attitude on many subjects on here, and I know that it IS a serious waste of time.  I understand that I am not going to persuade you in any shape form or matter....but, I am in mood to speak out about those of you who love to "point out" that YOU guys are the party of the people.

I'm calling bulls!t!

History is on the conservative's side demonstrating that whenever there is a major tax increase, our economy takes a hit!  I'm not talking about small increases from time to time....but the enormous one's that the democrats want to impose in order to "fix our economy".

The democrat playbook goes something like this: Tax, overregulate everything they can, and spend money.  YOU (the democrats) repeat themselves time after time, doing the exact same thing and expecting a better answer.

The fact is this:  We now have an enormous debt that is close to devastating our country!!

In the normal American functioning family, we maintain a budget in order to make ends meet.  Under Obama, there is no such thing as a "budget".  NONE!!  Just spend, regulate and if that is not enough, then just RAISE our Taxes!!!

Most economists who know what they are doing, have played with the numbers and have proven that even if ALL the current taxpayers would pay 100% taxes, there would still not be enough revenue to balance our budget, let alone pay down the debt.

This brings me to my first extremely obvious FACT, that raising taxes is NOT the answer.

Raising taxes on the "rich" is nothing more than political BULLSH!T Trying to start a class warfare, and divide our nation....PERIOD!

The first thing that needs to be done, and ANY logical, thinking American will tell you this:  You must get rid of the WASTEFUL spending.

Do you guys know that we are spending nearly $15 million to study the sexual habits of bees?

We spent $700,000 to study Cow farts! 

How about the $1.8 million we spent! On a "Musem of neon signs" in Vegas!!!

OR

$35 million paid out by Medicare to 118 "phantom" medical clinics that never even existed....crook defrauding our government!



I can go on and on and on!!!!!

Our CBO has come up with tens of billions of dollars in waste just in jobs that were being duplicated among many divisions.  Yet, not ONE damn thing has been done about it!!!!!

I'm getting to my real point that started my RANT!

Instead of fixing the OBVIOUS first and foremost, the democrats want to RAISE taxes!!

Now they want to raise taxes on our retirement!!! Not the republicans, but the democrats want to f'up the retirement for hard working Americans!

They want to give our IRS the ability to tax the nearly $20 trillion WE Americans NOW have been sitting on in our 401 k's!  They want to eliminate other tax breaks we currently have for middle-class workers, including cutting the mortgage tax deduction.

They want to tax our employer provided health insurance...THAT is a GREAT way to fix our broken system isn't it!!!

You keep claiming I cannot NAME any policies that this President and the Democrats have that are screwing us!!!,

That those of us, who can plainly see what is going on, well, we are just RACIST!!

I would love to tell you to get "f'ed"........but, I am not lowering myself down to that level!

Nope, not gonna do it.

The answers to fixing this mess are so extremely simple, yet all you can do is follow your leaders like scared sheep!

Anybody with half a brain KNOWS that in order to lower our debt, we must FIRST the balance the budget.

Trying to reinvent the wheel to fix poor financial management will not work....and raising NEW taxes will only put an unnecessary burden on the hard working Americans during a very, very strained economy.  We are on the brink of going right back into another recession.

I know it is JUST not the democrats who THINK they are doing what is BEST for America....There ARE people running on conservative values that truly ARE!

We MUST wake up, quit the bickering, and do what is best.....our Social Security is NOT going to be there for many of us who have paid dearly into it, for our retirement.

All I have to say is that many should be ashamed of themselves for their actions.

To utilize another posters own words..."This is my opinion and my prediction.  You don't have to like it or even agree with it"....I hope you read it though.

Boy did that feel good!
 
"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."
Ecclesiastes 10:2 - It all makes sense to me now...


"The future ain't what it used to be."– Yogi Berra

"Square roots are rarely found on any plant." FTW

Palehorse

R.I.P. - followsthewolf - You are MISSED! 4/17/2013

That which fails to kill me. . .should run!

Any "point" made by one that lacks credibility, is only as useful as toilet paper; and serves the same purpose. ~ Palehorse 4/22/2017

May you find charity when it is needed, and the ability to extend it when it is not. ~Palehorse 7/4/2012

To the last, I grapple with thee; From Hell's heart, I stab at thee; For hate's sake, I spit my last breath at thee.~Herman Melville

Exterminator

Quote from: Henry Hawk on June 04, 2012, 10:27:20 AM
In the normal American functioning family, we maintain a budget in order to make ends meet.  Under Obama, there is no such thing as a "budget".  NONE!!  Just spend, regulate and if that is not enough, then just RAISE our Taxes!!!

Obama has increased spending less than any president in the past 60 years.

QuoteI can go on and on and on!!!!!

These types of expenditures have occurred under every administration (and are appropriations mad by Congress, not the president).  Why hasn't it ever been an issue for you folks until a black president was elected?

QuoteThat those of us, who can plainly see what is going on, well, we are just RACIST!!

If it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck...
Arguing with Christians is like playing chess with a pigeon.  No matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock over the pieces, shit on the board and strut around like it's victorious.

The truth is slow, but relentless. Over time it becomes irresistible.

Exterminator

Quote from: Palehorse on June 01, 2012, 11:32:38 PM
I suspect things like "state secrets" that seem to be finding the light of day, and government administration decisions to make loans to entities that subsequently and rather promptly go bankrupt, are conscious decisions being made by key members of government for very insidious purposes; namely to undermine the nations first president of color.

I suspect it goes even deeper than that.  I believe that some sectors of industry who benefit most from so-called "conservative" policies are intentionally putting off hiring for no other reason than to make this administration look as bad as possible even though they could use additional employees now.  I don't think that they necessarily hate him because he's black; I think they fear the possibility that his being reelected might signal the beginning of the return of control of government to the people.  It is a fucked up mess that this country has become by some citizens' willingness to turn over control of our legislative process to corporate interests.  Even if Obama wins in November, I think it is only forestalling the inevitable collapse of this American experiment.

QuoteThese friggin closet racists are worse than  the skinheads who wear swastikas and spew their hatred right out in public. At least we can see and hear those assholes.

At least those people are man enough to say it; the rest of these people are simply cowards.
Arguing with Christians is like playing chess with a pigeon.  No matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock over the pieces, shit on the board and strut around like it's victorious.

The truth is slow, but relentless. Over time it becomes irresistible.

Palehorse

Quote from: Exterminator on June 04, 2012, 11:13:29 AM
. . . Even if Obama wins in November, I think it is only forestalling the inevitable collapse of this American experiment.

At least those people are man enough to say it; the rest of these people are simply cowards.

Agreed. It is clear that the collapse of this nation is the end game being pursued by some. . .
R.I.P. - followsthewolf - You are MISSED! 4/17/2013

That which fails to kill me. . .should run!

Any "point" made by one that lacks credibility, is only as useful as toilet paper; and serves the same purpose. ~ Palehorse 4/22/2017

May you find charity when it is needed, and the ability to extend it when it is not. ~Palehorse 7/4/2012

To the last, I grapple with thee; From Hell's heart, I stab at thee; For hate's sake, I spit my last breath at thee.~Herman Melville

Exterminator

Quote from: Palehorse on June 04, 2012, 12:18:18 PM
Agreed. It is clear that the collapse of this nation is the end game being pursued by some...

I don't necessarily agree that they intend to destroy the country; they are just greedy and ignorant of history.  The collapse of every civilization has always been preceded by the virtual control of all power and wealth by a select few.
Arguing with Christians is like playing chess with a pigeon.  No matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock over the pieces, shit on the board and strut around like it's victorious.

The truth is slow, but relentless. Over time it becomes irresistible.

Palehorse

Quote from: Exterminator on June 04, 2012, 12:25:32 PM
I don't necessarily agree that they intend to destroy the country; they are just greedy and ignorant of history.  The collapse of every civilization has always been preceded by the virtual control of all power and wealth by a select few.

I do not think they are necessarily ignorant of history inasmuch as they are ignorant of the lessons to be learned from it. In fact, they bastardize history to support their insidious initiatives in many cases.
R.I.P. - followsthewolf - You are MISSED! 4/17/2013

That which fails to kill me. . .should run!

Any "point" made by one that lacks credibility, is only as useful as toilet paper; and serves the same purpose. ~ Palehorse 4/22/2017

May you find charity when it is needed, and the ability to extend it when it is not. ~Palehorse 7/4/2012

To the last, I grapple with thee; From Hell's heart, I stab at thee; For hate's sake, I spit my last breath at thee.~Herman Melville

Henry Hawk

Quote from: Exterminator on June 04, 2012, 10:53:59 AM
Obama has increased spending less than any president in the past 60 years.



"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."
Ecclesiastes 10:2 - It all makes sense to me now...


"The future ain't what it used to be."– Yogi Berra

"Square roots are rarely found on any plant." FTW

Bo D

"Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former."  Carl Sagan

The Troll

Quote from: Henry Hawk on June 04, 2012, 10:27:20 AM

To my liberal zone buddies, I have been working diligently to express my attitude on many subjects on here, and I know that it IS a serious waste of time.  I understand that I am not going to persuade you in any shape form or matter....but, I am in mood to speak out about those of you who love to "point out" that YOU guys are the party of the people.

I'm calling bulls!t!

History is on the conservative's side demonstrating that whenever there is a major tax increase, our economy takes a hit!  I'm not talking about small increases from time to time....but the enormous one's that the democrats want to impose in order to "fix our economy".

The democrat playbook goes something like this: Tax, overregulate everything they can, and spend money.  YOU (the democrats) repeat themselves time after time, doing the exact same thing and expecting a better answer.

The fact is this:  We now have an enormous debt that is close to devastating our country!!

In the normal American functioning family, we maintain a budget in order to make ends meet.  Under Obama, there is no such thing as a "budget".  NONE!!  Just spend, regulate and if that is not enough, then just RAISE our Taxes!!!

Most economists who know what they are doing, have played with the numbers and have proven that even if ALL the current taxpayers would pay 100% taxes, there would still not be enough revenue to balance our budget, let alone pay down the debt.

This brings me to my first extremely obvious FACT, that raising taxes is NOT the answer.

Raising taxes on the "rich" is nothing more than political BULLSH!T Trying to start a class warfare, and divide our nation....PERIOD!

The first thing that needs to be done, and ANY logical, thinking American will tell you this:  You must get rid of the WASTEFUL spending.

Do you guys know that we are spending nearly $15 million to study the sexual habits of bees?

We spent $700,000 to study Cow farts! 

How about the $1.8 million we spent! On a "Musem of neon signs" in Vegas!!!

OR

$35 million paid out by Medicare to 118 "phantom" medical clinics that never even existed.crook defrauding our government!



I can go on and on and on!!!!!

Our CBO has come up with tens of billions of dollars in waste just in jobs that were being duplicated among many divisions.  Yet, not ONE damn thing has been done about it!!!!!

I'm getting to my real point that started my RANT!

Instead of fixing the OBVIOUS first and foremost, the democrats want to RAISE taxes!!

Now they want to raise taxes on our retirement!!! Not the republicans, but the democrats want to up the retirement for hard working Americans!

They want to give our IRS the ability to tax the nearly $20 trillion WE Americans NOW have been sitting on in our 401 k's!  They want to eliminate other tax breaks we currently have for molecules workers, including cutting the mortgage tax deduction.

They want to tax our employer provided health insurance...THAT is a GREAT way to fix our broken system isn't it!!!

You keep claiming I cannot NAME any policies that this President and the Democrats have that are screwing us!!!,

That those of us, who can plainly see what is going on, well, we are just RACIST!!

I would love to tell you to get "f'ed"........but, I am not lowering myself down to that level!

Nope, not gonna do it.

The answers to fixing this mess are so extremely simple, yet all you can do is follow your leaders like scared sheep!

Anybody with half a brain KNOWS that in order to lower our debt, we must FIRST the balance the budget.

Trying to reinvent the wheel to fix poor financial management will not work....and raising NEW taxes will only put an unnecessary burden on the hard working Americans during a very, very strained economy.  We are on the brink of going right back into another recession.

I know it is JUST not the democrats who THINK they are doing what is BEST for America....There ARE people running on conservative values that truly ARE!

We MUST wake up, quit the bickering, and do what is best.....our Social Security is NOT going to be there for many of us who have paid dearly into it, for our retirement.

All I have to say is that many should be ashamed of themselves for their actions.

To utilize another posters own words..."This is my opinion and my prediction.  You don't have to like it or even agree with it"....I hope you read it though.

Boy did that feel good!


  To my conservative buddies here on the Zone.  Henry, I think you and your ideas are just plain bullshit. 

  15 million dollars on the sexual habits of bee, we I can tell you, you know nothing about bees.  I was a bee keeper for many years and the queens breeding is pretty straight forward.  She flies one trip up about 200 feet and breed with several drone and she is fertilized for the rest of her life.  She can lay up to 1,800 eggs a day and she can live 4 to 5 years.  Worker bee in the summer live around 14 days, they work themselves to death.  It is a fact that if the queen breeds with a killer bee drone the rest of her brood for life will be killer bees.  They learned that through studies. 

  But I know that the government and colleges have spent millions of dollars trying to find out what is killing them.  Right now Indiana has lost over 90% of it's wild honey bees.  Since you don't know shit about the honey bee, I suppose you know that if America lose it honey bee.  We lose all of our melon crops, musk, water, pickles, squash and we can lose up to 50% of our pollanted crops cost America billion of dollars in food and money.  Your are truly a dim bulb.

  Medicare fraud, why don't your Republican congress do something about it, like present a bill.  The congress on NO.

  Your Republican did away with the Glass Steagall bill, a bill that was put in right after the Republican Hoover depression and it has worked all of that time.  Guess what, once it goes away, we have another Republican depression, your party are thieves. :rant:

  You say that raising taxes of the rich won't create jobs, no it won't, but it will sure cut down the debt were are in.  If cutting taxes for the rich worked.  George W. wonderful reign would not have been the nightmare it turned out to be.  Where is the jobs Henry.  The jobs that tax cuts for the rich were suppose to produce.  Just ain't to bright Bunky.   :rolleyes:

  You can take you conservative ideas and stick them were the sun don't shine and where your head is presently at.   :biggrin:

  But Henry, where is all the money that George W. gave to the bankers that started to go under and was to big to fail.  They haven't paid it back and probably won't Skippy.   :wink:  But like I have said over the time here on the Zone.  You don't know shit and never will Mr. Hawk.  :jester:  This is not really to tear you down, but educate you.  :haha:

Palehorse

CLINTON COUNTY -
State police conducting a traffic stop on Interstate 65 made a major drug find Monday.

A state trooper stopped a pick-up truck driven by Johnny Mark Russell, 34, of Beech Grove, Monday evening on I-65 in Clinton County. Troopers became suspicious when the driver and his passenger, 20-year-old Armando Herrera of Indianapolis, were telling different stories.

A K-9 officer alerted on the truck, leading the troopers to discover more than 1,000 pounds of marijuana under a tarp covering the bed of the truck. The marijuana was wrapped in 43 cellophane bundles, valued at nearly a million dollars.

Both occupants of the truck were taken to the Clinton County Jail and were charged with felony counts of possession of marijuana over 10 pounds and dealing marijuana over 10 pounds. Their bonds were set at $22,000 each.
http://www.wthr.com/story/18705337/troopers-find-1000-pounds-of-marijuana-during-stop

Two more "evil dope dealers" sent to the sin bin to have their lives ruined over nothing more than possession of a weed. . .  :rolleyes:
R.I.P. - followsthewolf - You are MISSED! 4/17/2013

That which fails to kill me. . .should run!

Any "point" made by one that lacks credibility, is only as useful as toilet paper; and serves the same purpose. ~ Palehorse 4/22/2017

May you find charity when it is needed, and the ability to extend it when it is not. ~Palehorse 7/4/2012

To the last, I grapple with thee; From Hell's heart, I stab at thee; For hate's sake, I spit my last breath at thee.~Herman Melville

The Troll

Quote from: Palehorse on June 05, 2012, 12:19:07 PM
CLINTON COUNTY -
State police conducting a traffic stop on Interstate 65 made a major drug find Monday.

A state trooper stopped a pick-up truck driven by Johnny Mark Russell, 34, of Beech Grove, Monday evening on I-65 in Clinton County. Troopers became suspicious when the driver and his passenger, 20-year-old Armando Herrera of Indianapolis, were telling different stories.

A K-9 officer alerted on the truck, leading the troopers to discover more than 1,000 pounds of marijuana under a tarp covering the bed of the truck. The marijuana was wrapped in 43 cellophane bundles, valued at nearly a million dollars.

Both occupants of the truck were taken to the Clinton County Jail and were charged with felony counts of possession of marijuana over 10 pounds and dealing marijuana over 10 pounds. Their bonds were set at $22,000 each.
http://www.wthr.com/story/18705337/troopers-find-1000-pounds-of-marijuana-during-stop

Two more "evil dope dealers" sent to the sin bin to have their lives ruined over nothing more than possession of a weed. . .  :rolleyes:

  Thanks to the do gooders and the religious right wing nuts, the war on drugs have been a disaster for our country.  Ruining thousand of lives all over the country over a weed.   :mad:

  I say legalize it.  Controlled and taxed.  If someone who is not smart enough not to use the drugs, make it plentiful so they don't have to go out and commit a crime to get it.   :yes:

  As far a crack, heroin, morphine, meth, cocaine, give the addict all they want in their veins and nose, out of the controlled distribution centers.  The problem will soon be over for the addict.  Put them in a wooden box and bury them in a slit trench.   Problem solved.   :wink: :smile:

Henry Hawk

Quote from: The Troll on June 05, 2012, 01:32:13 PM
  Thanks to the do gooders and the religious right wing nuts, the war on drugs have been a disaster for our country.  Ruining thousand of lives all over the country over a weed.   :mad:

  I say legalize it.  Controlled and taxed.  If someone who is not smart enough not to use the drugs, make it plentiful so they don't have to go out and commit a crime to get it.   :yes:

Troll, this is another landmark day, but we once AGAIN, agree on something!!!  It would cut our prison population in half and save billions of dollars!  Let the free market have at it.....it would create jobs, farms, entreprenuers....and as you said....TAX IT!

I was never a user of it, but I knew plenty who did/are.....probably safer than most alcohol.

Put the same conditions on it as drinking.........if you have a "certain" level of it in you blood stream while you are driving...then treat the punishment the same as alcohol.

"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."
Ecclesiastes 10:2 - It all makes sense to me now...


"The future ain't what it used to be."– Yogi Berra

"Square roots are rarely found on any plant." FTW