Vents: Random Acts of Venting!

[The Troll]

The unemployment rate rose to 8.2 percent

  SO!  Has your Republican party done anything about it.  John Boner Bohner Republican speaker of the House said, that when they took the House of Representives in 2010, the Republicans first job was to create new jobs. 

  So much for that bull shit.  Another lie up on many other lies brought to you by the Republican Party.   

[Henry Hawk]

  SO!  Has your Republican party done anything about it.  John Boner Bohner Republican speaker of the House said, that when they took the House of Representives in 2010, the Republicans first job was to create new jobs. 

  So much for that bull shit.  Another lie up on many other lies brought to you by the Republican Party. 

man you never give up........blame republicans for EVERYTHING!  amazing!  It really is!!!

Obama is the man.......HE is the leader, running our country.....and YOU blame the house?  The senate and the White House has not done diddly squat!

What ever....I'm sure people will be okay with those excuses come November. 

[Exterminator]

........blame republicans for EVERYTHING! 

Yes because you're the ones who have fucked up this country.

[Henry Hawk]

Yes because you're the ones who have fucked up this country.

Wake up and start being honest....you KNOW that is bullsh!t.....Washington has been screwing it for years....both parties....
But passing the buck and blaming others is BULLSH!T!!!!!
They better figure it out quick...how to get along, because this ol country is going to fall one of these days, IF we don't get things turned around.

[Exterminator]

Washington has been screwing it for years....both parties....

Indeed they have but it started with Reagan.  Read and learn; the Reagan years: Income and Wealth Inequality, Taxes, Budgets and Deficits, Economic Performance, Poverty and Welfare, Comparison of the U.S. to Other Rich Nations.

Numbers don't lie.

[Exterminator]

In all fairness, I should add that Carter got the ball rolling in the 70's when his policies started favoring corporate special interests over the well-being of the citizens.

[Henry Hawk]

Indeed they have but it started with Reagan.  Read and learn; the Reagan years: Income and Wealth Inequality, Taxes, Budgets and Deficits, Economic Performance, Poverty and Welfare, Comparison of the U.S. to Other Rich Nations.

Numbers don't lie.

Okay, numbers don't lie...
Here is what I came away with:

The percentage of Americans living below the poverty line in 1981, Reagans FIRST full year in office was: 14.0%
The percentage of Americans living below the poverty line in 1988, Reagans LAST full year in office was: 13.0%
It went down during his tenure!

The number of Americans who became highly successful millionaires:
When he took office was under 5,000
When he left office it was over 35,000
That is incredible!  What is remotely wrong with that?

Proportion of total income taxes paid by the top 1% 1981: 18%
Proportion of total income taxes paid by the top 1% 1988: 28%

Total federal revenues before he took office was: $517 billion
Total federal revenues before he left office were: $ Trillion!

The Reagan-created economic boom lasted 92 months without a recession, from November 1982 to July 1990, the longest period of sustained growth during peacetime and the second-longest period of sustained growth in U.S. history.

Percentage of the popular vote won by Ronald Reagan in the presidential election of 1984: 58.8%

Number of states won by Ronald Reagan in the presidential election of 1984: 49

Percentage of the electoral vote won by Ronald Reagan in the presidential election of 1984: 97.6%

President Reagan's public approval rating upon his retirement from office in 1989: 70%

Number of presidents who finished their terms with a higher approval rating than Reagan, since Franklin Roosevelt died in office in 1945: zero, zilch!!

[The Troll]

Okay, numbers don't lie...
Here is what I came away with:

The percentage of Americans living below the poverty line in 1981, Reagans FIRST full year in office was: 14.0%
The percentage of Americans living below the poverty line in 1988, Reagans LAST full year in office was: 13.0%
It went down during his tenure!

The number of Americans who became highly successful millionaires:
When he took office was under 5,000
When he left office it was over 35,000
That is incredible!  What is remotely wrong with that?

Proportion of total income taxes paid by the top 1% 1981: 18%
Proportion of total income taxes paid by the top 1% 1988: 28%

Total federal revenues before he took office was: $517 billion
Total federal revenues before he left office were: $ Trillion!

The Reagan-created economic boom lasted 92 months without a recession, from November 1982 to July 1990, the longest period of sustained growth during peacetime and the second-longest period of sustained growth in U.S. history.

Percentage of the popular vote won by Ronald Reagan in the presidential election of 1984: 58.8%

Number of states won by Ronald Reagan in the presidential election of 1984: 49

Percentage of the electoral vote won by Ronald Reagan in the presidential election of 1984: 97.6%

President Reagan's public approval rating upon his retirement from office in 1989: 70%

Number of presidents who finished their terms with a higher approval rating than Reagan, since Franklin Roosevelt died in office in 1945: zero, zilch!!

  Your figure look real good.  But figures can lie and lairs figure.  Here's the big question, if Reagan did so good as you are saying? 

  Why, at the end of Reagan terms in office, DID HE LEAVE THE LARGEST DEFICT IN THE HISTORY OF AMERICA, $1.4 TRILLION, UP TO THAT TIME?

  Sorry Bunky, we caught you again, in a lie, always lying and trying to rewrite history.       

[Henry Hawk]

  Your figure look real good.  But figures can lie and lairs figure.  Here's the big question, if Reagan did so good as you are saying? 

  Why, at the end of Reagan terms in office, DID HE LEAVE THE LARGEST DEFICT IN THE HISTORY OF AMERICA, $1.4 TRILLION, UP TO THAT TIME?

  Sorry Bunky, we caught you again, in a lie, always lying and trying to rewrite history.       

He was not perfect (although he was close)...... He admitted that his failures to cut federal spending absolutely and to balance the federal budget were his "biggest disappointments" as president...His committment to increase our military and bring an end to the Cold War was vital issues with him....

Troll, what LIE did I say?  show me!  I did NOT lie ONCE......prove to me that I lied, and I will quit.  I did post anything but facts.

That facts are just as I stated: and he had a public approval rating upon his retirement from office at 70% and he created an economic boom lasted 92 months without a recession!

facts!

[Exterminator]

Okay, numbers don't lie...
Here is what I came away with:

The percentage of Americans living below the poverty line in 1981, Reagans FIRST full year in office was: 14.0%
The percentage of Americans living below the poverty line in 1988, Reagans LAST full year in office was: 13.0%
It went down during his tenure!

You should probably go back and actually read the information with a critical eye to detail rather than simply cherry picking those figures that support what you want to believe.  The author points out the fallacy of those who are trying to illustrate Reagan's successes using '81 as their reference point.  The problem with using '81 is that the country was in a recession at that time so the comparison between the recessionary figures and those during the later recovery period are invalid.

The number of Americans who became highly successful millionaires:
When he took office was under 5,000
When he left office it was over 35,000
That is incredible!  What is remotely wrong with that?

What is wrong with that is that it wasn't accompanied by any associated increases in productivity.  Those millionaires were made by policies that redistributed wealth away from the middle class and poor and to the already wealthy.  From 1950 to 1978, increases in income were about the same across the entire socio-economic spectrum, meaning that the income of the poor and middle class increased at about the same rate as the income for the rich.  Beginning in 1979, however, income for most poor and middle class started declining while income for the rich increased dramatically.  The time when incomes were increasing for everyone, by the way, was a time of economic prosperity that this country has not seen since.

Proportion of total income taxes paid by the top 1% 1981: 18%
Proportion of total income taxes paid by the top 1% 1988: 28%

How many times do you need to be reminded that it doesn't matter if they pay 28% of the taxes if they're getting 60% of the income?

Total federal revenues before he took office was: $517 billion
Total federal revenues before he left office were: $ Trillion!

Again, tax revenues fall during a recession and increase during a recovery.

The Reagan-created economic boom lasted 92 months without a recession, from November 1982 to July 1990, the longest period of sustained growth during peacetime and the second-longest period of sustained growth in U.S. history.

You should have kept reading: "Of course, there was a war in Vietnam, which gives supply-siders an excuse to dismiss it because wars are beneficial to the economy. But they are beneficial because governments engage in Keynesian borrowing and spending during them (which could be directed to social services as well as war). Unfortunately for supply-siders, it was really Keynesianism that produced the longest economic boom since World War II."

Percentage of the popular vote won by Ronald Reagan in the presidential election of 1984: 58.8%

Number of states won by Ronald Reagan in the presidential election of 1984: 49

Percentage of the electoral vote won by Ronald Reagan in the presidential election of 1984: 97.6%

President Reagan's public approval rating upon his retirement from office in 1989: 70%

Number of presidents who finished their terms with a higher approval rating than Reagan, since Franklin Roosevelt died in office in 1945: zero, zilch!!

So he was popular; doesn't mean he did a good job.

Again, if you really want to learn, you should go back and actually read the material presented.  If your goal is to remain willfully ignorant by using only the information you find that supports what you want to believe, that's fine but it doesn't make your assertions true.

[Exterminator]

His committment to increase our military and bring an end to the Cold War was vital issues with him....

Reagan did not end the Cold War.  The USSR imploded all on its own; all we had to do was wait for it.

[Henry Hawk]

Reagan did not end the Cold War.  The USSR imploded all on its own; all we had to do was wait for it.

They imploded because they was trying ever so diligently to keep up with us in the arms race.......they went bankrupt!  He had very much to do with it....

[The Troll]

They imploded because they was trying ever so diligently to keep up with us in the arms race.......they went bankrupt!  He had very much to do with it....

  Yep, Reagan almost spent us into bankruptcy with his Star Wars space based weapons which didn't work.  Because the idea was beyond the technology we had at that time.
 
  He spent money like water.  Even tho he raised taxes like a drunken sailors spend money in the taverns, bars and girls.  The money he raised in taxes wasn't enough to cover the money he spent.   1.4 Trillion dollars down the drain.

  Reagan was a joke, but what is so bad is, he's the only Republican president you people have to hold up as "that shining city on the hill."  After old Ronald said that, the city wasn't as shiney as it was under George H. Bush.  Oh, what a joke. 
   

[Henry Hawk]

  Yep, Reagan almost spent us into bankruptcy with his Star Wars space based weapons which didn't work.  Because the idea was beyond the technology we had at that time.
 
  He spent money like water.  Even tho he raised taxes like a drunken sailors spend money in the taverns, bars and girls.  The money he raised in taxes wasn't enough to cover the money he spent.   1.4 Trillion dollars down the drain.

  Reagan was a joke, but what is so bad is, he's the only Republican president you people have to hold up as "that shining city on the hill."  After old Ronald said that, the city wasn't as shiney as it was under George H. Bush.  Oh, what a joke. 
 

are you mentally challanged?  The National Debt has now increased more during President Obama's three years and five months in office than it did during 8 years of the George W. Bush presidency.....it now stands at $15.566 trillion!!!  All that money and employement is going back up again....there are more people NOT working today than the day he took office!!!

He has failed with his policies and his leadership!  That is the hard cold facts, and there is not even an arguement that can be made other than blaming others (which is a lie).

His energy policies are a failure..........he invested our money into companies that went bankrupt!
He WANTS the coal industry to fail!
OPEC is laughing their asses off at this administration!  They are getting filthy rich, yet you get mad at millionaires here in the states! 



it is pointless....to argue on here...........I'm right, and you are wrong..........what more can be said...

[Sandy Eggo]

Fed Ex WTF! Seriously, I'm beginning to think they're either morons or not really attempting to deliver packages. I've had three encounters with them this year. The first time, they claimed that they attempted to deliver my package, but the tracking never showed that they were here. I thought maybe it records by proximity. But once they actually did make the delivery, the tracking showed them enter my town and deliver the package. The second time, I get a second notice on my door and only one more attempt would be made. No one informed me of the first two attempts. So I logged on to check the tracking and sure enough there were two undelivered, in my town, with a note saying that they left a message. Today, I was expecting a package and I checked it when I got home. "In transit" in the next town over. I thought "cool". A couple hours later, I check and it said "undelivered business closed or customer unavailable" I was not only here, but on my porch grilling. Seriously? So I called FedEx and the guy stuttered and mumbled his way through my information. It was correct. He said, well it says the left a door hanger. I said, "they lied". He said ma'am, they can deliver it tomorrow. I said, "what time? And will it be in the right town?" And he started stuttering again. I explained that the tracking clearly shows they were NOT here. He repeated himself. I told him that I wanted the package delivered to a FedEx Store so that I don't have to waste my whole day waiting for the driver to make shit up. So we got that arranged. I think he was happy to get off the phone.

From this point forward, if a vendor uses Fedex and doesn't offer other options, I'm complaining. If this service doesn't get better, then I will find vendors who don't use FedEx.