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The Troll

Quote from: Henry Hawk on June 01, 2012, 06:45:16 PM
are you mentally challanged?  The National Debt has now increased more during President Obama's three years and five months in office than it did during 8 years of the George W. Bush presidency.....it now stands at $15.566 trillion!!!  All that money and employement is going back up again....there are more people NOT working today than the day he took office!!!

He has failed with his policies and his leadership!  That is the hard cold facts, and there is not even an arguement that can be made other than blaming others (which is a lie).

His energy policies are a failure..........he invested our money into companies that went bankrupt!
He WANTS the coal industry to fail!
OPEC is laughing their asses off at this administration!  They are getting filthy rich, yet you get mad at millionaires here in the states! 



it is pointless....to argue on here...........I'm right, and you are wrong..........what more can be said... :haha:

  You got to be a total dumbbell.  Obama invested in companies that went bankrupt.  Yes, only one.  How many companies has Romney made go bankrupt.  Obama didn't make the company go bankrupt the management did.  Romney deliberately made companies go bankrupt.  So he could make millions and millions of dollars and now he's worth a quarter of a billion dollars.  Poor guy and you want him to lead the country.  You got be completely out of you fricking mind.  :wacko:

  Just what can Obama do about OPEC, nothing.  American has so much oil now it is exporting it.  Did you know that.  :doh:

  You're lying about Obama wanting the coal companies to go out of business, again you're talking out of your ass and believing all of the Republican talking points.  Drinking that old poison Republican Koolaid :koolaid:

  You are always talking how smart and how right you are.  Well, Bunky you're more like a baby robin, always got your mouth open and full of shit.

  Another thing dumb butt, sure Obama has spent some money.  Trying to keep us out of a Republican Hoover style depression and he got it done.  More needs to be sent to save us from George W's follies and fuckups.  But one thing Bunky Obama hasn't spent the money that George W. did to put us in debt.  Again you got you head up you ass and talking shit.

  You're so wrong, so damn wrong.  You want to go back to George W. Bush's stupid times and really fuck up this country.   :rant:

  Yeah, Bird Boy, what we need is two more wars, more deregulations for the banks and stock markets and more tax cut for the super rich to bring us out of the Republican depression  :angry:  :rant:

Henry Hawk

Quote from: The Troll on June 01, 2012, 08:32:34 PM
  You got to be a total dumbbell.  Obama invested in companies that went bankrupt.  Yes, only one.  How many companies has Romney made go bankrupt. 

WTF are you talking about?..........you need to quit relying on MSNBC and get the REAL scoop....and btw, Romney was not using TAXPAYERS money...

read:

Raser Technologies. In 2010, the Obama administration gave Raser a $33 million taxpayer-funded grant to build a power plant in Beaver Creek, Utah. According to the Wall Street Journal, after burning through our tax dollars, the company filed for bankruptcy protection this year. The plant has fewer than 10 employees, and Raser owes $1.5 million in back taxes.

• ECOtality. The Obama administration gave ECOtality $126.2 million in taxpayer money in 2009 for, among other things, the installation of 14,000 electric car chargers in five states. Obama even hosted the company's president, Don Karner, in the first lady's box during the 2010 State of the Union address as an example of a stimulus success story.

According to ECOtality's own SEC filings, the company has since incurred more than $45 million in losses and has told the federal government: "We may not achieve or sustain profitability on a quarterly or annual basis in the future."

Worse, according to CBS News, the company is "under investigation for insider trading," and Karner has been subpoenaed "for any and all documentation surrounding the public announcement of the first Department of Energy grant to the company."

• Nevada Geothermal Power (NGP). The Obama administration gave NGP a $98.5 million taxpayer loan guarantee in 2010. The New York Times reported in October that the company is in "financial turmoil" and that "after a series of technical missteps that are draining Nevada Geothermal's cash reserves, its own auditor concluded in a filing released last week that there was 'significant doubt about the company's ability to continue as a going concern.'"

• First Solar. The Obama administration provided First Solar with more than $3 billion in loan guarantees for power plants in Arizona and California. According to a Bloomberg Businessweek report last week, the company "fell to a record low in Nasdaq Stock Market trading May 4 after reporting $401 million in restructuring costs tied to firing 30% of its workforce."

Abound Solar. The Obama administration gave Abound Solar a $400 million loan guarantee to build photovoltaic panel factories. According to Forbes, in February the company halted production and laid off 180 employees.

• Beacon Power. The Obama administration gave Beacon — a green-energy storage company — a $43 million loan guarantee. According to CBS News, at the time of the loan, "Standard and Poor's had confidentially given the project a dismal outlook of 'CCC-plus.'" Last fall, Beacon received a delisting notice from Nasdaq and filed for bankruptcy.

This is just the tip of the iceberg. A company called SunPower got a $1.2 billion loan guarantee from the Obama administration, and as of January, the company owed more than it was worth. Brightsource got a $1.6 billion loan guarantee and posted a string of net losses totaling $177 million.

And let's not forget Solyndra, the solar panel manufacturer that received $535 million in taxpayer-funded loan guarantees and went bankrupt, leaving taxpayers on the hook.
"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."
Ecclesiastes 10:2 - It all makes sense to me now...


"The future ain't what it used to be."– Yogi Berra

"Square roots are rarely found on any plant." FTW

Henry Hawk

Quote from: The Troll on June 01, 2012, 08:32:34 PM
You're lying about Obama wanting the coal companies to go out of business, again you're talking out of your ass and believing all of the Republican talking points.  Drinking that old poison Republican Koolaid :koolaid:


Troll, get AWAY from the huffington post and MSNBC......this is a fact......and there is an audio of him saying the following:

"I was the first to call for a 100% auction on the cap and trade system, which means that every unit of carbon or greenhouse gases emitted would be charged to the polluter. That will create a market in which whatever technologies are out there that are being presented, whatever power plants that are being built, that they would have to meet the rigors of that market and the ratcheted down caps that are being placed, imposed every year.

So if somebody wants to build a coal-powered plant, they can; it's just that it will bankrupt them because they're going to be charged a huge sum for all that greenhouse gas that's being emitted."


Read more: http://newsbusters.org/blogs/p-j-gladnick/2008/11/02/hidden-audio-obama-tells-sf-chronicle-he-will-bankrupt-coal-industry#ixzz1wavsMoL9

Must you continue to call me a liar, even before you can get your ducks in a row?
Name calling is a liberal thing....it seems.
"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."
Ecclesiastes 10:2 - It all makes sense to me now...


"The future ain't what it used to be."– Yogi Berra

"Square roots are rarely found on any plant." FTW

Henry Hawk

Quote from: The Troll on June 01, 2012, 08:32:34 PM
Another thing dumb butt, sure Obama has spent some money.  Trying to keep us out of a Republican Hoover style depression and he got it done.  More needs to be sent to save us from George W's follies and fuckups.  But one thing Bunky Obama hasn't spent the money that George W. did to put us in debt.  Again you got you head up you ass and talking shit.



The irony is that what Bush did in 8 years, OweBama did in just 2.5 years...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3CMy2M32g4k

Take one minute and watch this!
"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."
Ecclesiastes 10:2 - It all makes sense to me now...


"The future ain't what it used to be."– Yogi Berra

"Square roots are rarely found on any plant." FTW

The Troll

Quote from: Henry Hawk on June 01, 2012, 09:39:48 PM

The irony is that what Bush did in 8 years, OweBama did in just 2.5 years...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3CMy2M32g4k

Take one minute and watch this!

  Using shit from the Wall Street Journal (Rupert Murdoch's rag)  and using campaign talk.  I got to say one thing Romney hasn't got any plans to get people back to work, but give the super rich tax cuts.  The only way he ran business was to run them into the ground, borrow money on them, strip their assets and and bankrupt them.  That's what he going to do to this country.

  Nothing you say will change my mind about the Republican Party.  They are the worse, crooked and full of thieves.  Their only assets are destroying the middle class, making money off the poor and middle class and feeding bullshit to people like you.  The assholes of America.  You want to destroy America and I don't see why.   :yes: :rolleyes:  :angry:

  The Republican Party has no soul, no morals, no conscience.  For them it's only the bottom line, that is money and feeding off the poor and the middle class, out of pure greed and control.  :trustme:  And you're happy because you think you are one of them and they, the rich, wouldn't piss on you if you were on fire.  What a fool.  :doh:  :jester:

Henry Hawk

Quote from: The Troll on June 01, 2012, 10:12:06 PM
  Using shit from the Wall Street Journal (Rupert Murdoch's rag)  and using campaign talk.  I got to say one thing Romney hasn't got any plans to get people back to work, but give the super rich tax cuts.  The only way he ran business was to run them into the ground, borrow money on them, strip their assets and and bankrupt them.  That's what he going to do to this country.

  Nothing you say will change my mind about the Republican Party.  They are the worse, crooked and full of thieves.  Their only assets are destroying the middle class, making money off the poor and middle class and feeding bullshit to people like you.  The assholes of America.  You want to destroy America and I don't see why.   :yes: :rolleyes:  :angry:

  The Republican Party has no soul, no morals, no conscience.  For them it's only the bottom line, that is money and feeding off the poor and the middle class, out of pure greed and control.  :trustme:  And you're happy because you think you are one of them and they, the rich, wouldn't piss on you if you were on fire.  What a fool.  :doh:  :jester:

it is a fact, if want to believe it or not........he spent what Bush did in 8 years, that he spent in 2.5 years....can you imagine how far in debt we will be if he gets another term?  DAMN!
"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."
Ecclesiastes 10:2 - It all makes sense to me now...


"The future ain't what it used to be."– Yogi Berra

"Square roots are rarely found on any plant." FTW

The Troll

Quote from: Henry Hawk on June 01, 2012, 10:14:51 PM
it is a fact, if want to believe it or not........he spent what Bush did in 8 years, that he spent in 2.5 years....can you imagine how far in debt we will be if he gets another term?  DAMN!

  I don't think so, but we won't be in a Herbert Hoover depression like we will with Mitt Romney.

  Henry do you honestly that the Super Rich and the Corporations give a damn about you and your family.  If you do, then you're the fool I think you are.  All you have to do is look at pass history, with kings, queens, potentates and the rich.  They take and take and take until the poor stands up and kill them.  That why we have the Constitution we have is because of the King and the rich nobles, dukes and knight's greed and control.  And you can't see it because you have you head up your ass.   :yes: :yes:

Henry Hawk

Quote from: The Troll on June 01, 2012, 10:23:58 PM
  I don't think so, but we won't be in a Herbert Hoover depression like we will with Mitt Romney.

  Henry do you honestly that the Super Rich and the Corporations give a damn about you and your family.  If you do, then you're the fool I think you are.  All you have to do is look at pass history, with kings, queens, potentates and the rich.  They take and take and take until the poor stands up and kill them.  That why we have the Constitution we have is because of the King and the rich nobles, dukes and knight's greed and control.  And you can't see it because you have you head up your ass.   :yes: :yes:

so what do you want to do to the super rich? make them go out of business?   wtf?  what is your answer ... I have no problem with rich people.....they write checks to poor people and middle class......if we don't have rich people we don't have nothign..

what do you want to do with them?
"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."
Ecclesiastes 10:2 - It all makes sense to me now...


"The future ain't what it used to be."– Yogi Berra

"Square roots are rarely found on any plant." FTW

Palehorse

I'll tell you what I think. I think that when history is written about this period in the US, it will find a whole lot of people should have been tried and convicted of treason.

I suspect things like "state secrets" that seem to be finding the light of day, and government administration decisions to make loans to entities that subsequently and rather promptly go bankrupt, are conscious decisions being made by key members of government for very insidious purposes; namely to undermine the nations first president of color.

Why? Because it scares the living hell out of them and they feel threatened, so they stoop to purposefully criminal acts in an effort to rid the nation of him. (Knowing full well the lazy and uneducated masses will lay the blame at the door of the white house, despite the fact it has happened before and proven to be unassociated with the POTUS and the WH administration).

These friggin closet racists are worse than  the skinheads who wear swastikas and spew their hatred right out in public. At least we can see and hear those assholes.  :rant:

(This is my opinion and my prediction. You don't have to like it or even agree with it. But you just read it).
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May you find charity when it is needed, and the ability to extend it when it is not. ~Palehorse 7/4/2012

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The Troll

Quote from: Palehorse on June 01, 2012, 11:32:38 PM
I'll tell you what I think. I think that when history is written about this period in the US, it will find a whole lot of people should have been tried and convicted of treason.

I suspect things like "state secrets" that seem to be finding the light of day, and government administration decisions to make loans to entities that subsequently and rather promptly go bankrupt, are conscious decisions being made by key members of government for very insidious purposes; namely to undermine the nations first president of color.

Why? Because it scares the living hell out of them and they feel threatened, so they stoop to purposefully criminal acts in an effort to rid the nation of him. (Knowing full well the lazy and uneducated masses will lay the blame at the door of the white house, despite the fact it has happened before and proven to be unassociated with the POTUS and the WH administration).

These friggin closet racists are worse than  the skinheads who wear swastikas and spew their hatred right out in public. At least we can see and hear those assholes.  :rant:

(This is my opinion and my prediction. You don't have to like it or even agree with it. But you just read it).

  Just like the old saying, "you can't tell a book by its cover.  Just like you can't tell a racist Christian by his or her by their go to church Sunday morning clothes.  Shall we pray :pray: for the deliverance of us from this O0 black president and replace him with a good "Religious" Republican.  We will even take a "Mormon"  :haha:  :haha:

  How let us put our hand on the Bible and swear our allegiance to the Republican Party.  They are such good religious Christian people.   :rolleyes:  :haha:  :rotfl:

Exterminator

Quote from: Henry Hawk on June 01, 2012, 05:03:28 PM
They imploded because they was trying ever so diligently to keep up with us in the arms race.......they went bankrupt!  He had very much to do with it....

Actually, their protracted conflict in Afghanistan was the proverbial straw that broke the camel's back but nice try.
Arguing with Christians is like playing chess with a pigeon.  No matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock over the pieces, shit on the board and strut around like it's victorious.

The truth is slow, but relentless. Over time it becomes irresistible.

Exterminator

Quote from: Henry Hawk on June 01, 2012, 06:45:16 PM
are you mentally challanged?  The National Debt has now increased more during President Obama's three years and five months in office than it did during 8 years of the George W. Bush presidency.....it now stands at $15.566 trillion!!!  All that money and employement is going back up again....there are more people NOT working today than the day he took office!!!

Yes, the deficit has increased more under Obama but primarily because of decreased revenues resulting from the economic collapse and from increases in social programs that were enacted long before he took office, not because of any massive increases in spending on his part.  Portraying it as his failure illustrates a fundamental lack of understanding of the actual forces at work, over which he had no control.
Arguing with Christians is like playing chess with a pigeon.  No matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock over the pieces, shit on the board and strut around like it's victorious.

The truth is slow, but relentless. Over time it becomes irresistible.

The Troll

Quote from: Henry Hawk on June 01, 2012, 10:55:35 PM
so what do you want to do to the super rich? make them go out of business?   wtf?  what is your answer ... I have no problem with rich people.....they write checks to poor people and middle class......if we don't have rich people we don't have nothign..

what do you want to do with them?

  Tell me this Bunky, under Eisenhower with a 90% income tax on the rich, the rich bastards didn't go our of business they grew into the monsters, to large to fail, of today.  I know I won't get an answer from you Skippy.  WHY????????  Ain't got an answer have your. :doh:  George W. tax cuts didn't create jobs and Romney's won't either.  :doh:

  You're just like Romney when they ask him, how are you going to create new jobs.  If you can get any answer at all, it's a dumb laugh and it's cut taxes for small business, corporations and the super rich.  Plus deregulate the stock market and the banks.  Just the thing that let the dogs of depression out and Romney wants to let out the dogs of war out too.   :yes:  :doh:

  Sure one hell of a smart Twinky Mormon.  It would be funny if it wasn't so serious.   :@#%&:

Palehorse

10:20pm on a Sunday night, and they are still playing banjos and fiddles so loud the dead can hear them. . .  :mad:
R.I.P. - followsthewolf - You are MISSED! 4/17/2013

That which fails to kill me. . .should run!

Any "point" made by one that lacks credibility, is only as useful as toilet paper; and serves the same purpose. ~ Palehorse 4/22/2017

May you find charity when it is needed, and the ability to extend it when it is not. ~Palehorse 7/4/2012

To the last, I grapple with thee; From Hell's heart, I stab at thee; For hate's sake, I spit my last breath at thee.~Herman Melville

Henry Hawk

Quote from: Palehorse on June 03, 2012, 10:21:25 PM
10:20pm on a Sunday night, and they are still playing banjos and fiddles so loud the dead can hear them. . .  :mad:

OMG!!

I just stepped out on my front porch..........and I CAN HEAR them from my house, and I live about, three or four miles south of you...and it IS rather loud!
"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."
Ecclesiastes 10:2 - It all makes sense to me now...


"The future ain't what it used to be."– Yogi Berra

"Square roots are rarely found on any plant." FTW