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Quote from: Palehorse on March 14, 2012, 11:47:19 AM
As far as I am concerned, most, if not all of his shortfalls, came at the hands of the jackwagons in congress. Specifically the party of "NO".

Had congress been more forthcoming and held an open mind toward compromise this country would not be in such dire straights as it finds itself within today.

When you hear them come right out and say, repeatedly, "We're going to do everything we can to make this POTUS a "one term POTUS"," and then see them sacrifice the least amongst us in order to pander to the wealthy, there is only ONE conclusion that any individual possessing even a minimal level of critical thought skills can reach. (And I don't think I have to repeat it again).

The sitting POTUS does not deserve a "pass", inasmuch as he has earned another chance to get the job done.
Problem is I don't particularly care for the job he is doing.  Heard about the new $50 light bulb that's being subsidized?  Yep, like he said, with his new energy plan the cost of energy will "necessarily" increase. http://theweek.com/article/index/225434/obamas-50-light-bulb-too-pricey
Trump 2020

Henry Hawk

Quote from: Palehorse on March 14, 2012, 11:47:19 AM
As far as I am concerned, most, if not all of his shortfalls, came at the hands of the jackwagons in congress. Specifically the party of "NO".

Had congress been more forthcoming and held an open mind toward compromise this country would not be in such dire straights as it finds itself within today.

When you hear them come right out and say, repeatedly, "We're going to do everything we can to make this POTUS a "one term POTUS"," and then see them sacrifice the least amongst us in order to pander to the wealthy, there is only ONE conclusion that any individual possessing even a minimal level of critical thought skills can reach. (And I don't think I have to repeat it again).

The sitting POTUS does not deserve a "pass", inasmuch as he has earned another chance to get the job done.

what makes you think he CAN get the job done if he has another term?..... Maybe had he not been so arrogant and tell the republicans they can go along for the ride, just go to the back....or tell his people if the repubs bring a knife to the fight, they should bring a gun....is NOT a POTUS who has ANY intentions of working WITH the other party...

and don't tell me that if the tables were turned that the dems would say YES to all republican agenda's.....

Tell me what specifically did the republicans "stop" that would have changed America to a prospering nation...
"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."
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Exterminator

If your Republican friends are so great, why haven't they solved the country's problems in the two years during which they've been in control of the House?
Arguing with Christians is like playing chess with a pigeon.  No matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock over the pieces, shit on the board and strut around like it's victorious.

The truth is slow, but relentless. Over time it becomes irresistible.

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Quote from: Exterminator on March 14, 2012, 12:02:12 PM
If your Republican friends are so great, why haven't they solved the country's problems in the two years during which they've been in control of the House?
The Dem control of the Senate.
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Henry Hawk

Quote from: Exterminator on March 14, 2012, 12:02:12 PM
If your Republican friends are so great, why haven't they solved the country's problems in the two years during which they've been in control of the House?

Well as you well know having only 1/3 of the power to accomplish anything in washington, the best they can do is stop the foolishness from continuing as planned...

They have introduced bills to fix some of this mess such as:
Cut, Cap and Balance (H.R. 2560)
Health Care Takeover Repeal (H.R. 2)
Dodd-Frank Repeal (H.R. 836)
Repealing Obama's Off-Shore Drilling Ban (H.R. 1231)

"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."
Ecclesiastes 10:2 - It all makes sense to me now...


"The future ain't what it used to be."– Yogi Berra

"Square roots are rarely found on any plant." FTW

The Troll

Quote from: me on March 14, 2012, 12:44:46 PM
The Dem control of the Senate.

  I guess Dimbulb, you never heard of the Filibuster or the 6o votes need to pass anything in the Senate.  I also guess you never heard of the Republican Party, the party of "NO".

  Hell you're not even a Dimbulb, you're filament is burned out.   :yes:

damfast

Quote from: Exterminator on March 14, 2012, 12:02:12 PM
If your Republican friends are so great, why haven't they solved the country's problems in the two years during which they've been in control of the House?

because!
they are busy making new ones....so many things to do, so little time.
It's always darkest before the dawn.  So if you're going to steal your neighbor's newspaper, that's the time to do it.

Y

Quote from: Henry Hawk on March 14, 2012, 01:02:59 PM
Well as you well know having only 1/3 of the power to accomplish anything in washington, the best they can do is stop the foolishness from continuing as planned...

They have introduced bills to fix some of this mess such as:
Cut, Cap and Balance (H.R. 2560)
Health Care Takeover Repeal (H.R. 2)
Dodd-Frank Repeal (H.R. 836)
Repealing Obama's Off-Shore Drilling Ban (H.R. 1231)

How would those Bills have 'fixed' the economy?  I suspect you neither understand nor can explain.
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Henry Hawk

Quote from: Y on March 14, 2012, 08:35:10 PM
How would those Bills have 'fixed' the economy?  I suspect you neither understand nor can explain.

by restoring consumer confidence and business investors....THAT is exactly how.

The democrats are spending taxpayers dollars faster than anytime in the coarse of history....

Just look at what the CBO said yesterday...that the Obama HC Bill is going to cost us $2.6 trillion over a ten-year period instead of $900 billion that Obama promised....He lied!  the DEMS lied!!  they knew DAMN well it would cost more, but the LIED!!!!!!!! anything to push this agenda to create a stronghold on the American people.

People with money to invest are afraid...business' are NOT excited about spending when they do not understand what is going on....

It is that simple.

I am tired of the spinning and twisting that is being done....the demonization of anything BIG Business, yet our BIG Government is there to "help".............and those of you who believe that is WHY we are falling deeper and deeper in debt and despair.
"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."
Ecclesiastes 10:2 - It all makes sense to me now...


"The future ain't what it used to be."– Yogi Berra

"Square roots are rarely found on any plant." FTW

The Troll

Quote from: Henry Hawk on March 15, 2012, 08:45:09 AM
by restoring consumer confidence and business investors....THAT is exactly how.

The democrats are spending taxpayers dollars faster than anytime in the coarse of history....

Just look at what the CBO said yesterday...that the Obama HC Bill is going to cost us $2.6 trillion over a ten-year period instead of $900 billion that Obama promised....He lied!  the DEMS lied!!  they knew DAMN well it would cost more, but the LIED!!!!!!!! anything to push this agenda to create a stronghold on the American people.

People with money to invest are afraid...business' are NOT excited about spending when they do not understand what is going on....

It is that simple.

I am tired of the spinning and twisting that is being done....the demonization of anything BIG Business, yet our BIG Government is there to "help".............and those of you who believe that is WHY we are falling deeper and deeper in debt and despair.

  How would you know how big business and super rich corporations work when you work for a half ass small company in a one horse town of Indianapolis.

  The whole premise of the Republican Party is built on lies.  From birth control, abortion, war on the American women and the economy.  Everything that has come out of the 4 Republican candidates for president are built on lies.

  If you believe the salvation of this country would be achieved by the Republican Party, I have have some beautiful water front property within the Moon Colony.  :haha:  :haha:  Ask Newt about it.  :doh:  :haha:  :haha:

Exterminator

Quote from: Henry Hawk on March 15, 2012, 08:45:09 AM
by restoring consumer confidence and business investors....THAT is exactly how.

Those things are happening without any of those bills' passage.  Retail spending (one common indicator of consumer confidence) is up as is the DOW (a common indicator of business investment).

QuotePeople with money to invest are afraid...business' are NOT excited about spending when they do not understand what is going on....

And yet people are investing and businesses are spending money and hiring workers.

Quotered of the spinning and twisting that is being done....

The only one spinning and twisting is you.  Are you ignorant of the facts or simply lying to suit your agenda?
Arguing with Christians is like playing chess with a pigeon.  No matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock over the pieces, shit on the board and strut around like it's victorious.

The truth is slow, but relentless. Over time it becomes irresistible.

Henry Hawk

Quote from: Exterminator on March 15, 2012, 10:12:22 AM
Retail spending (one common indicator of consumer confidence) is up as is the DOW (a common indicator of business investment).

And yet people are investing and businesses are spending money and hiring workers.



and yet Under Obama's supposed recovery, the number of working age Americans not in the labor force rose by 7.14 million....but they PLAY with the numbers in to MAKING people think the actual unemployment numbers are going down....we are being SCAMMED.

He SCAMMED us with his healthcare bill........saying it will cost us only 900 billion over ten years and NOW, the CBO is saying that figure will DOUBLE!
He scammed us with that bill saying that premiums will drop.......and they are going up.

He scammed us saying we will be able to KEEP our current HC if we want....but as we are now finding out, he is going to chase away HC from employers covering their workers and force the single-payer system....all part of his plan, that he denied all along....he is a LIAR.
"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."
Ecclesiastes 10:2 - It all makes sense to me now...


"The future ain't what it used to be."– Yogi Berra

"Square roots are rarely found on any plant." FTW

Exterminator

Arguing with Christians is like playing chess with a pigeon.  No matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock over the pieces, shit on the board and strut around like it's victorious.

The truth is slow, but relentless. Over time it becomes irresistible.

Palehorse

Quote from: Henry Hawk on March 15, 2012, 11:02:59 AM
and yet Under Obama's supposed recovery, the number of working age Americans not in the labor force rose by 7.14 million....but they PLAY with the numbers in to MAKING people think the actual unemployment numbers are going down....we are being SCAMMED.

Same method used by Rappin Ronnie, and every body else to calculate Unemployment, and suddenly its a problem? Conservatives just two years ago were pooh-poohing the very same information when it was being used to validate unemployment extensions.  Typical flip-flopping!  :roll eyes:

And then lets not forget who is responsible for the policies that enabled the flight of manufacturing and the tanking of the auto industry and financial industry; each of which are the root cause for the numbers you present. Blaming it on the sitting POTUS is hyperbole.  We didn't get into this mess in the last 4 years!

Quote from: Henry Hawk on March 15, 2012, 11:02:59 AM
He SCAMMED us with his healthcare bill........saying it will cost us only 900 billion over ten years and NOW, the CBO is saying that figure will DOUBLE!
He scammed us with that bill saying that premiums will drop.......and they are going up.

No, the healthcare insurance companies scammed us, and continue to do so! Taking the teeth out of the HRA took the muzzle and leash off of the mongrels and now we are surprised we are getting bit? Really?!

When the HRA called for increased regulation of HC companies, the conservatives cried and loudly. The result is what we have today; they are pretty much doing whatever the hell they want to and charging what they want to for it.

Quote from: Henry Hawk on March 15, 2012, 11:02:59 AM
He scammed us saying we will be able to KEEP our current HC if we want....but as we are now finding out, he is going to chase away HC from employers covering their workers and force the single-payer system....all part of his plan, that he denied all along....he is a LIAR.

See above.
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Palehorse

How friggin gullible are people in this state?!

Today at a meeting someone was telling everyone how they stood a broom up on end due to the vernal equinox. . . and how they love this time of year because it is the only time that can be done. . .

:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

I calmly pointed out that was an old wives tale, and informed everyone the same thing can be done anytime of year, but no one thinks about doing it until the vernal equinox rolls around. .  I then told them that if they don't believe it, to try it in July. . .
R.I.P. - followsthewolf - You are MISSED! 4/17/2013

That which fails to kill me. . .should run!

Any "point" made by one that lacks credibility, is only as useful as toilet paper; and serves the same purpose. ~ Palehorse 4/22/2017

May you find charity when it is needed, and the ability to extend it when it is not. ~Palehorse 7/4/2012

To the last, I grapple with thee; From Hell's heart, I stab at thee; For hate's sake, I spit my last breath at thee.~Herman Melville