Vents: Random Acts of Venting!

[Henry Hawk]

Yeah, why would we want sources? I mean it's not like you'd use skewed information to support your point. </heavy sarcasm>

Without facts (verifiable sources) your opinion, point, comments are baseless.

This is a perfect example. You attempted to paint a picture that only 13,000 jobs have been created. Shame on you!

Is the stimulus working?

[Bo D]

This is a perfect example. You attempted to paint a picture that only 13,000 jobs have been created. Shame on you!

Well said, Sandy. What about it, Henry?

[The Troll]

Is the stimulus working?

  There  you go again.  When we give you a question you can't answer, you give one of your cute and witty questions.   

[Henry Hawk]

Guys, all I am asking is....do you think the stimulus is working?

No shame if yes or no?

All I see is, that unemployment went form 8% to 10% since we spent nearly a trillion dollars....

I admit that the 13,000 was for one month, and I was NOT trying to fool anyone, I know better than that....I should have stated the 13,000 was for one month....but, it STILL doesn't chante the dynamics of what was expected of this stimulus bill....they can say 500,000 jobs has been created, but that doesn't mean squat if unemployment is STILL rising...

again I say with all honesty, I hope and pray that this stimulus STILL works, because too much is at stake as far as I am concerned with peoples lives and the prosperiety of this Nation.....I woud much rather eat crow than not being able to eat at all....

[The Troll]

Is the stimulus working?

  Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes and yes.  But all that money is gone.  Because we had such a vacuum in leader ship for so many years, try 8 years.  We are slipping again..  I hope Obama doesn't pull a Hoover and do nothing and let the country go into a depression.  Henry need his.  If it go any lower Henry might be out on his can.  Can you imangine how bad that would be for him and his family.

  :idea:  We put the Republicans back in and we will all be happy.  NOT!

[Henry Hawk]

  Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes and yes.  But all that money is gone. 

So either Obama and the dems LIED and told us it would work or they didn't know what they was talking about....which is it?...

[The Troll]

So either Obama and the dems LIED and told us it would work or they didn't know what they was talking about....which is it?...

  Talk about brain dead logic.  Obama had pulled on him what Lee Iacocca pulled on him.  Chylser told how the company wasn't that bad off when he took it over to run.  He said, that when me found how bad of shape the company was really in, he went into his back office and shut the door and took no phone call, some he could think of how screwed he was and what he could do to save it.

  That the same thing Obama had happen to him.  But he couldn't go hide.  But George W. really put the screws to him.     

[Henry Hawk]

  Talk about brain dead logic.  Obama had pulled on him what Lee Iacocca pulled on him.  Chylser told how the company wasn't that bad off when he took it over to run.  He said, that when me found how bad of shape the company was really in, he went into his back office and shut the door and took no phone call, some he could think of how screwed he was and what he could do to save it.

  That the same thing Obama had happen to him.  But he couldn't go hide.  But George W. really put the screws to him.     

Not gonna buy that load of doo doo......the dem congress was in controll for two years before he took office...They knew exactly what they was facing......They was the one's who said they CAN and WILL fix everything back in 2006.....here it is 1/2 way through 2010 and ..... well, here we are.

[The Troll]

Not gonna buy that load of doo doo......the dem congress was in controll for two years before he took office...They knew exactly what they was facing......They was the one's who said they CAN and WILL fix everything back in 2006.....here it is 1/2 way through 2010 and ..... well, here we are.

  Dumb Bunny, you can't controll anything, unless  you have 60 votes and not have the veto and you know it.  Nice try again, Henry.  You must feel like a Kamikaze pilot to who was sent out on his final flight and missed the whole damn carrier and blew up in the sea.   

[Henry Hawk]

  Dumb Bunny, you can't controll anything, unless  you have 60 votes and not have the veto and you know it.  Nice try again, Henry.  You must feel like a Kamikaze pilot to who was sent out on his final flight and missed the whole damn carrier and blew up in the sea. 

a well orchestrated congress with proper leadership would have had NO problems getting 60 votes, none what-so-ever....

Hey aren't you the  kamikaze guy who flew 48 successful missions....

[The Troll]

a well orchestrated congress with proper leadership would have had NO problems getting 60 votes, none what-so-ever.... Hey aren't you the kamikaze guy who flew 48 successful missions....

  Not with a John Boner and the rest of the No, No, No, No Republican Party. 

  Actually it was forty three.  I was a good dodger.  Getting a way a from the Corsairs and the Hell Cats.  I died when a P-38 got me.  Aaaaaso.  Or is it Aaaaaasshole.

[LOsborne]

why is it everytime I make a very valid point, you guys get all caught up in "sources"

I don't get caught up in sources -- I get caught up in verifiable fact. You flunked.

....my source are correct

Your source is correct for companies who outsource their payroll thru ADP for the month of June. It is a big honking fat LIE for the number of jobs created thru the stimulus fund, which is what you implied. How can I trust anything you say, when you think this kind of LYING MANIPULATION is okay, because it supported what you now say is the "bigger point?"

can we admit, that the stimulus bill has NOT worked?.....

No. I will no longer admit anything you say is true unless you can show me facts with supporting documentation (that I get to look at too.) I'm disappointed, and I'm pissed. I trusted you, Henry, and you don't even have the balls to say, "Oops, I missed the fine print on that one."

[LOsborne]

Guys, all I am asking is....do you think the stimulus is working?

All I am asking is how long have you had your head up your ass?


As for the stimulus ... my company is seeing an increase in orders. It is slowly translating into more available jobs. And that's great, so long as we ignore your sainted "entrepreneurs" haring off to Mexico with all the manufacturing jobs.

Now I'll ask a question: Do you think we could stop the off-shoring if we held one or more family member of each of the directors of these companies hostage? I think the idea has real promise.

[LOsborne]

I admit that the 13,000 was for one month, and I was NOT trying to fool anyone, I know better than that....I should have stated the 13,000 was for one month.

Still trying to spin it, aren't you, H? The 13,000 was for ONE month among companies that have ADP print their paychecks. They are not the only company handling payroll for multi-state companies, and your blessed small businessmen (entrepreneurs I believe is your chosen term) NEVER use them, because they aren't cost effective unless you have more than 200 employees.

Do we even live on the same planet?

[Henry Hawk]

I don't get caught up in sources -- I get caught up in verifiable fact. You flunked.

Your source is correct for companies who outsource their payroll thru ADP for the month of June. It is a big honking fat LIE for the number of jobs created thru the stimulus fund, which is what you implied. How can I trust anything you say, when you think this kind of LYING MANIPULATION is okay, because it supported what you now say is the "bigger point?"

No. I will no longer admit anything you say is true unless you can show me facts with supporting documentation (that I get to look at too.) I'm disappointed, and I'm pissed. I trusted you, Henry, and you don't even have the balls to say, "Oops, I missed the fine print on that one."

has the m'threr f'ing stimulus WORKED?...........that is ALL I have asked.........and not one of you yahoos will have the integrity to say NO, it is not working.....because it is NOT working.......we spent nearly 900 billion dollars and we STILL have unemployment aroung 10%........we gained 13,000 last month in the private sector, the was hopeing for 100,000.......that is a failure....no mater HOW you slice it.........so, bash me all you want.......make it personal, that is what seems to make everyone giggle........I tell you another thing, the economist are saying we are about to double dip, and take another turn for the worse.....this POTUS policies are failures.....and too many have too big of ego's to admit it.........even TRoll keeps on blaming Bush........it has been 18 months and we are worse now than we have been in 30 years...

Weak economic data suggest recovery is fizzling

http://apnews.myway.com/article/20100701/D9GMF6SG2.html