Vents: Random Acts of Venting!

[Sandy Eggo]

Of course, if they're repeaters, then the opportunity is there. But I think that message should be out there for everyone. Then instead of turning non-tippers into 10%ers you'd possibly be turning poor tippers into 15 or more, but at least there'd be something for your trouble.

Now, on the other-hand, I've had extremely poor service (judging just service...not items out of the server's control) and I deduct from my normal percentage which is right around 20% for food/beverages and 25% hair/beauty.

I can think of once that I only left a note. I won't go into what it said, but basically a "suggestion" that she hadn't found her calling. It was a comment card, but I also made sure to inform her verbally.

It would have to be really bad to not get a tip from me. Mainly b/c I worked in the service industry.

Interesting about minimum wage. I wonder if health insurance was factored into that amount. I've known countless service industry personnel who work long hours, on their feet...just to get by. None of the companies that I worked for offered an insurance plan. Who could have afforded private insurance on a waitress/bartender paycheck....with tips.

[pariann]

The Anderson Country Club offered insurance. That was one of the places I worked at with above minimum wage pay..plus tips. I couldn't afford the insurance though.  It came to around $300 a month.

[andersonbrent]

 I just wonder if he ran up and watched them pay the bill to see if they added the tip in when they payed it? I mean why not if he is sticking his nose in where it does not belong he should have done that too so he KNOWS they did not leave a tip. That would be my point, no one really knows if they tipped or not. Anyone willing to start going around to every table and make sure everyone knows that you left a tip one way or another? No? Because it is between you and the server and no one else's damn business!

[Palehorse]

I see the troll's point though.

I deeply appreciate the services provided to me by service people engaged in the food and services industries. I was a bartender at one point in my life, and know all too well how some folks can be. I've also been married to waitresses and know first hand how hard they work for their money. I developed a deep appreciation for them early in life, and tip as generously as I can afford, no matter how shoddy the service.

(INcluding leaving the tip on the credit receipt when necessary.)

[The Troll]

The Anderson Country Club offered insurance. That was one of the places I worked at with above minimum wage pay..plus tips. I couldn't afford the insurance though.  It came to around $300 a month.

  Well, Baby Cakes, with Obama and the Democrat's Health Care Plan, even waiters and waitress can have health care, does that make you even a little bit happy.  Now you can turn over on your couch and take a nap after attacking the Troll.

The Troll   

[pariann]

My name is not baby cakes.

[The Troll]

I just wonder if he ran up and watched them pay the bill to see if they added the tip in when they payed it? I mean why not if he is sticking his nose in where it does not belong he should have done that too so he KNOWS they did not leave a tip. That would be my point, no one really knows if they tipped or not. Anyone willing to start going around to every table and make sure everyone knows that you left a tip one way or another? No? Because it is between you and the server and no one else's damn business!

   Mr. Andersonbrent, my what a strong laddie you are, since when did you get decide what was my business.  You seem to like to try to take me on, but you never seem to come back with an answer to any of my questions.  When I see 3 fat old broads, over dressed and must have their hair done ever week, leave a bible verse to a young girl who cleans up after the cheap old bags.  I think it is cheap and greedy.  What you think of me matters little.  Cheep, Cheep, Cheap!  

  I did see them pay for the meals one by one.  I would love for you to have to work as a waiter and get stiffed by everyone who you wait on and give you a cardboard bible verse.  I would to see you try to eat on that stipend, minimum wage and cardboard diet. Don't you love stupid cheap people.

   I am making it my damn business.  Would you care to elaborate of what you would do to me about me minding their business.  Put me in jail.  It sure is none of your business.  Stiffing a young girl trying to make a buck and you say its "between them and their customer" I don't think she had any thing to say on how much tip she was going to get.   I'll bet you're a real big tipper. Aren't you?

   Would please try to sound more intelligent when you speak to the Troll.  Not Cheep, Cheep, Cheap.

The Troll,  I sure wish they had a smiley face for the "finger"!

[Locutus]

 
The Troll,  I sure wish they had a smiley face for the "finger"!

There are a couple of them Troll.  They're on the popup.  LOL!!

  <------- Right there.   

[dan foster]

I'm a jackass?  I've worked for tips since I was 17 years old.  There have been places where I worked for "normal" minimum wage plus tips, above "normal" minimum wage plus tips and server wage plus tips.  Do you know how they tax your tips? They ASSUME how much you make up to the normal minimum wage and tax that. Rarely have I worked in a place where you legitimately report your tips.  In one place it was 8% of your total sales. In most, it's just a rough estimate.  Only one place have I ever worked where they actually tax what you are really tipped and that was where all tips were paid to the place of business on my account and then I received them on my paycheck. 

Shall I sit here and write out a list of all the places I've worked as a tipped employee over the last 32 years?  Starting with the B&K Root Beer stand that is no longer on the corner of 17th and Jackson here in Anderson?

Don't tell me what the purpose of tips are.  I KNOW WHAT THE PURPOSE IS.  As well, I also know that no one is obligated to tip just because they receive service.  If a server doesn't make adequate tips, they might need to evaluate their job performance.  I can make a living wage as a waitress, but it's because I WORK for it.  I don't just clock in and expect the customers to pay my bills.

I stand corrected.  You never had to survive on tips.  There is a difference.  When you make statements like " I can make a living wage as a waitress, but it's because I WORK for it.  I don't just clock in and expect the customers to pay my bills.", it truly reflects that your tips were not the income you were working for, as it IS in most areas of the country, but particularly the south where servers are taxed on sales and their below minimum wage "salary" is just enough to usually cover those taxes.  You treat tips just way too lightly to have had to survive on them.  Having said all that, it is true the old farts may well have left a tip at the counter, but not without first insulting the server with a goofy assed, "get out of tipping" religion card. 

[The Troll]

My name is not baby cakes.

   What would you like to me to call you.  Your Hindness, princess, PA,  give me a hint.  Did you have your nap on your couch.  Which I see you lay on, every time I get on the forum.

   Say there there is a single mother with 7 kids working as a waitress making $10.88 per hour.  I'll bet she got a real nice house and car paid for.  I'll bet she dresses the girls in the best and latest styles clothes.  I'll bet she takes real nice vacations.  But one thing, with Obama and the Democrat's Health Care Bill, she will have health insurance.  If the truly kind Republicans don't get it repealed.

   Surly you don't condone giving cardboard as tips, is the really right thing to do.  I think if you can afford to eat out, you can at least give a dollar tip.  Can you really defend that.  CARDBOARD.

    It really tickles me how you people jump all over me when I defend the poor and down trodden people.  You people really make me sick.   If the people are down and out, kick them.  Right? 

The Troll, oh if we had a sign for the "FINGER"

[The Troll]

There are a couple of them Troll.  They're on the pop up.  LOL!!

  <------- Right there.   

   LOL, please remember, I'm barely computer illiterate and new to this forum, I'm still learning. 

  Just how do I find the fingers, there is sure a lot of people who are on me about cardboard tips and I would like to give them the fingers and fingers and fingers.  They so deserve them.  Pleeease tell me how,

The Troll

[pariann]

I stand corrected.  You never had to survive on tips.  There is a difference.  When you make statements like " I can make a living wage as a waitress, but it's because I WORK for it.  I don't just clock in and expect the customers to pay my bills.", it truly reflects that your tips were not the income you were working for, as it IS in most areas of the country, but particularly the south where servers are taxed on sales and their below minimum wage "salary" is just enough to usually cover those taxes.  You treat tips just way too lightly to have had to survive on them.  Having said all that, it is true the old farts may well have left a tip at the counter, but not without first insulting the server with a goofy assed, "get out of tipping" religion card. 

Let me correct you again.  A living wage is what it takes to live.  I have had to survive on my tips.  But like I said, I WORKED for it.  And just where in the south are you speaking of?  Is Jacksonville FL far enough south for you?  Lived and worked there for 10 years.

And I take a lighter view of it, because I have been a waitress, and I do know how it all works.  You know what you are in for when you take the job.  If you can't make it work for you, then you don't belong in that business.  I've worked along side many guys and gals that just expect the tips to fall in their laps, without really putting the effort in.   

Dan, have you not read me over the last 4 years?  Do you not realize that every day is a struggle for me?   I would give anything to have one of those waitress jobs right now, AND have the opportunity to have 3 white hairs stiff me on a tip.   I can take it all lightly because if I had a waitress job, I'd be making more than $45 every two weeks or so.  People who complain (and those who have no right to complain about it) over the missed $2 or $3 tip while making $30, $40 or $50 for an evenings work, should try to survive on next to nothing, like I do.

[pariann]

   What would you like to me to call you.  Your Hindness, princess, PA,  give me a hint.  Did you have your nap on your couch.  Which I see you lay on, every time I get on the forum.

   Say there there is a single mother with 7 kids working as a waitress making $10.88 per hour.  I'll bet she got a real nice house and car paid for.  I'll bet she dresses the girls in the best and latest styles clothes.  I'll bet she takes real nice vacations.  But one thing, with Obama and the Democrat's Health Care Bill, she will have health insurance.  If the truly kind Republicans don't get it repealed.

   Surly you don't condone giving cardboard as tips, is the really right thing to do.  I think if you can afford to eat out, you can at least give a dollar tip.  Can you really defend that.  CARDBOARD.

    It really tickles me how you people jump all over me when I defend the poor and down trodden people.  You people really make me sick.   If the people are down and out, kick them.  Right? 

The Troll, oh if we had a sign for the "FINGER"

My name is Pari Ann and that is what you may call me.  I'm one of the fucking poor and down trodden people...and I'm not blaming the people who have been my customers, when I have had job, for the position I am in.  I am currently unemployed, I have a house that I plan on giving up, I have a paid for minivan that my father bought me to help me out (so I could work or look for work) which I was unable to pay him back for before he passed away a year and a half ago.  My kids are dressed just fine because I know how to hit the sales racks when I have an extra 10 or 15 to spend on clothing.  I'm most likely one of the poorest people posting on this forum, without health insurance, and that includes medicaid.  I do odd jobs to make money, especially now that my ex-husband has stopped paying child support.  I once again have no utilities in my house, so I'm staying with someone else until I can afford to be in my own house again, or until he kicks me out, whichever comes first.  Every day I have worries and stress, but I'm not going to blow a fuse over a missed few dollars.  There are bigger things in this world to get mad about than one table of non-tippers.

You really ought to get over your judging people based on a picture.  There are some people on here that are amused by your 72 year old blathering....I'm not one of them.  I find you rude and repetitive and just plain obnoxious. 

Yeah, find that finger icon and use it.  It shows just how much you value the opinions of others, on an opinion forum. 

[pariann]

   LOL, please remember, I'm barely computer illiterate and new to this forum, I'm still learning. 

  Just how do I find the fingers, there is sure a lot of people who are on me about cardboard tips and I would like to give them the fingers and fingers and fingers.  They so deserve them.  Pleeease tell me how,

The Troll

Barely computer illiterate.  I suppose that makes you a computer genius then, right?  You are barely literate, is what you are.

[followsthewolf]

Oooooooh.

That left a mark.