God sucks!

[Bo D]

  If other people can talk about their religion, well I should be able to talk about mine, Atheistism.

Of course you can. And I, for one, welcome any thoughtful comments. But you don't represent your beliefs (or lack of them) very well by ridiculing all others.

[Lester Sasquatch]

  Lester, I'm glad you had a miracle.  You are truly blessed, because you the first one that I would believe you thought you had one.  I hope it was a really big one, you probably won't get anymore.

  Once a person find out and declares he's an Atheist and that there is no God and no Devil and no record keeping on the number of sins someone else think you might have.  Well, I agree we do look at people who do believe with jaded eyes.  Most of the sins there are were written by the Pope and holy men trying to keep us in our place.  They were not written by God.  Because there is no God.

  Just to keep peace between you and me, we won't talk about it.  But the other religious right wing nuts, I can't keep my mouth shut.  Because practically every thing they say is bullshit. 

  If other people can talk about their religion, well I should be able to talk about mine, Atheistism.

Yes Bob, God has truly blessed me in many ways throughout my life. Thank you for understanding and I will not talk about the subject with you any more. But just for the record, I have no problem with discussing your choice not to believe in God and can tolerate you ridiculing me or others of my faith, it was just the remarks you make ridiculing God that I have problems with.

[Lester Sasquatch]

Of course you can. And I, for one, welcome any thoughtful comments. But you don't represent your beliefs (or lack of them) very well by ridiculing all others.

Very well put Olias, I wholeheartedly agree.

[Locutus]

Wow!  The Poop knows more about astrophysics than Stephen Hawking!  But then again, they've always known more than scientists.  Case in point, Galileo.   






Pope praises science, but insists God created world

Stephen Hawking is wrong, Pope Benedict XVI said Thursday - God did create the universe.

The pope didn't actually mention the world-famous scientist, who argues in a book published last month that the laws of physics show there is no need for a supreme being to have brought the world into existence.

In fact, Benedict specifically praised - and blessed - science and scientists in an address to the Pontifical Academy of Sciences.

But he also made clear that part of the role of science is to reveal God in the universe.

"Scientists do not create the world; they learn about it and attempt to imitate it," he said.

"The scientist's experience as a human being is therefore that of perceiving a constant, a law ... that he has not created but that he has instead observed," the pope said.

That perception, in turn, "leads us to admit the existence of an all-powerful Reason, which is other than that of man, and which sustains the world," he said.

Hawking says in his book, "The Grand Design," that, given the existence of gravity, "the universe can and will create itself from nothing."

"Spontaneous creation is the reason why there is something rather than nothing, why the universe exists, why we exist," he writes in the introduction.

"It is not necessary to invoke God to light the blue touch paper [fuse] and set the universe going," he writes.

Benedict was enthusiastic about science in his speech Thursday, even as he set the Catholic Church's marker firmly in place on the existence of God.

"The developments of science have been both uplifting, as when the complexity of nature and its phenomena were discovered, exceeding our expectations, and humbling, as when some of the theories we thought might have explained those phenomena once and for all proved only partial," he said.

And he said the conference he was attending was "proof of the church's esteem for ongoing scientific research and of her gratitude for scientific endeavor, which she both encourages and benefits from."

[LOsborne]

Yeah. But then the folks chasing that "god particle" keep hitting one snag after another, too.  First CERN had to shut down the Large Hadron Collider, and now this.

The Tevatron at Fermilab in Batavia, Illinois, is potentially powerful enough to confirm or deny the existence of the Higgs boson, which would help explain the origin of mass in the universe. But the machine needs more time, and its scheduled September 2011 shutdown would almost certainly allow Europe's new, more powerful Large Hadron Collider to get there first.

http://www.wired.com/wiredscience/2010/10/tevatron-higgs-extension/

[The Troll]

Wow!  The Poop knows more about astrophysics than Stephen Hawking!  But then again, they've always known more than scientists.  Case in point, Galileo.   

  Where in hell does this "MAN" get all of his knowledge from.  From his teen years he has lived in an institution of men.  Married the church, vow his celibacy to the church giving up his sexual love of a woman. Which always seemed a little queer to me.

  Where does he get his experience to telling a family how to live and the way they should handle sex, "which he never had.  Telling a woman how to handle her life in when and how to have babies.
Telling the couple that then they had all of the babies they want.  Don't use any birth control, but live like brother and sister.  To me me is total bullshit

  How this human (man) who is not the representative of God on this planet. Because there is no God.  But was elected by a group of celibate men.  Just how in hell does he know how the Universe was created.  Nobody of this earth knows.

  Just think people believe the this man pope can make holy water that with a few sprinkles or gargles will forgive you of all your past sins.  Again I say bullshit, it's all smoke and mirrors.

  If you look at the history of the Catholic church and the decisions of the Pope.  With the handling of Galileo, Inquisition, and many more imprisonment and murders of many innocent people through history.  And some people call him a god on earth.     

[Henry Hawk]

I cannot explain why some people suffer so much Troll. All I can say that at least one of my prayers was answered when I witnessed a miracle in June of 1986. There was no faking Troll, that I know with absolute certainty. But I no longer give the details of my experience as it only leads to skeptics saying either I am lying or try to explain it away by science. Be careful about what scientists tell you Troll, many of them are arrogant know-it-alls that have an answer for everything regardless of whether they can prove it or not. What it boils down to is believing in God is an individual choice and a person can choose his own path. I never try to push my beliefs on others but on the other hand I feel I have the right to defend my belief.

What bothers me is not your belief or lack of, it is that you post things I find offensive that serve no useful purpose in the conversation. I guess some might find them funny but I don't. I think you know what I am talking about, taking God's name in vain for one. I can respect a nonbeliever stating why they don't believe, it is the blasphemous phrases that offend me. Troll, I would much rather you say offensive things about me rather than the God I worship.

We all seem to paint with a broad brush and, if we can find a video or a news clipping where a people representing a group we don't like does or says something stupid, we try to say they are all that way. That would be like saying that since there are Americans in jail for murder, all Americans are murderers. Or that since a man is in jail for drugs, all men use drugs. Yes, there are many preachers who must be in it for the money and power. Yes there are men in the pulpit who should not be there. But there are many Christians who are good people too. Christians who do not go into a full gospel frenzy of disorder, speaking in weird tongues. Just like there are Christians who do not believe in handling venomous snakes.

Lester, I could not agree with you more, and you stated it perfectly.  I have been trying to relay this message to the zoners for years.  I doubt that it will make much difference with most of them.  To me, I find that those who enjoy being "offensive" are ones who don't have much to offer in the first place.  They have a real act of classlessness to them.  They want others to "NOT" believe WITH them for some reason.  So they become crass and crude.  I too, have not much problem with being "trashed" for my beliefs, but find it MORE offensive when they attack the God I have "chose" to worship.  I don't see the point in it, and don't understand WHY, especially on here, they feel they have to continue to do so.

Anyway, just wanted to give you a thumbs up for this post....

[The Troll]

Lester, I could not agree with you more, and you stated it perfectly.  I have been trying to relay this message to the zoners for years.  I doubt that it will make much difference with most of them.  To me, I find that those who enjoy being "offensive" are ones who don't have much to offer in the first place.  They have a real act of classlessness to them.  They want others to "NOT" believe WITH them for some reason.  So they become crass and crude.  I too, have not much problem with being "trashed" for my beliefs, but find it MORE offensive when they attack the God I have "chose" to worship.  I don't see the point in it, and don't understand WHY, especially on here, they feel they have to continue to do so.

Anyway, just wanted to give you a thumbs up for this post....

  So everybody that doesn't believe like you are classless.  Bullshit.  Henry I have read your stupid posts for a long long time.  If people told you the truth they would say you have your head up your ass.  I don't know how or when you put it there, you can't see anything or hear anything because of where head is.

  Tell one reason I should respect your God.  He sure as hell isn't mine.  How can you show respect for something that doesn't exist.  It is not going to be to many years, when all religions are going to be treated the way the Egyptians with their Sun God and the Greeks and many other people's God's, Thor, Zeus, Neptune and so on.  All make believe, smoke, mirrors and religious bullshit.

  But for you to call me classless is just as stupid as your truly uneducated opinion that Atheist are so evil, "BECAUSE WE DON'T BELIEVE IN YOUR GOD."  Have your ever sat down and with your engineers mind and really read and thought what is really written and said in the Bible and you think it true.  Give all of us a break.    Let us Pray:    I probably have read more of your Bible than you have.  I know I have read more about how much of it is a big fairy tale.  I know you haven't.

[Henry Hawk]

  So everybody that doesn't believe like you are classless. 

No, just you...

[The Troll]

No, just you...

  Just like the song, "You don't know me"  But what I read from you, you have your head up your ass, that's for sure. 

[Henry Hawk]

  Just like the song, "You don't know me"  But what I read from you, you have your head up your ass, that's for sure. 

right back at you brother!!.. 

[followsthewolf]

Welcome back, Hank. 

[Anne]

Hi Henry, welcome back.

[LOsborne]

Glad to see you back, Henry. Did you get home in time to wear your new mouse ears trick-r-treating?

[Henry Hawk]

Thanks guys, yeah got back just in time to wear my Mickey ears, and retire them for a while.  That place is a lot of fun, but it was HOT and CROWDED.  But we had a great time, despite.