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Started by Locutus, May 09, 2007, 09:20:54 PM

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Exterminator

Quote from: me on May 07, 2009, 08:36:42 PM
But I still think Ex should come up with a car since he's the one that offered it.   :yes: :biggrin:

I didn't offer anything; I simply told him what the prize was.  He'll have to deal with our sponsors.
Arguing with Christians is like playing chess with a pigeon.  No matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock over the pieces, shit on the board and strut around like it's victorious.

The truth is slow, but relentless. Over time it becomes irresistible.

Ma and Pa

If you're driving, we'll go wherever you decide, LO; Ma & I will kick in for gas. Better let me read the map, tho; that's not Ma's strong suit.  :wink:

me

I am good at reading a map thank goodness.  Just as long as I don't have to do it while the car is moving....motion sickness...bad thing..... :-\
Trump 2020

LOsborne

Quote from: Exterminator on May 08, 2009, 10:59:47 AM

I didn't offer anything; I simply told him what the prize was.  He'll have to deal with our sponsors.

I didn't offer anything; I simply told her what the prize was.  She'll have to deal with our sponsors.

FIFY

Exterminator

Quote from: LOsborne on May 08, 2009, 11:55:03 AM
Quote from: Exterminator on May 08, 2009, 10:59:47 AM

I didn't offer anything; I simply told him what the prize was.  He'll have to deal with our sponsors.

I didn't offer anything; I simply told her what the prize was.  She'll have to deal with our sponsors.

FIFY

Oops!  Hey, you're pretty smart for a girl!   :biggrin:
Arguing with Christians is like playing chess with a pigeon.  No matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock over the pieces, shit on the board and strut around like it's victorious.

The truth is slow, but relentless. Over time it becomes irresistible.

pariann

Quote from: Ma and Pa on May 08, 2009, 11:17:35 AM
If you're driving, we'll go wherever you decide, LO; Ma & I will kick in for gas. Better let me read the map, tho; that's not Ma's strong suit.  :wink:
hey, if we are going to Jax, I don't need a map, I know the way by heart.  I also know where every Sonny's and Bono's in the city are located. :wink:
Looks like I've come full circle.

mcgonser

Thats my story and I'm sticking to it!

LOsborne

Mac, if you plan to bounce like that in the car, you have to ride in the trunk.

mcgonser

Aw!!!!!!!!! Can I ride on the top or hood??
Thats my story and I'm sticking to it!

Ma and Pa

If the new car has a hitch, we might have to put her in a horse trailer! Wearin' hobbles!

mcgonser

Thats my story and I'm sticking to it!

me

Sorry guy's but I ran across this and since it has kind of turned into a topic of whatever thought what the heck.  You do have to admit it is funny..... :biggrin:

Trump 2020

mcgonser



You crack me up!
Thats my story and I'm sticking to it!

Ghost of Jaco

Quote from: LOsborne on May 07, 2009, 08:35:28 PM
You're no fun, either, me.

I won the bet! If a car is not the prize, G of J should have told me what the real prize is.

G of J is a no-good-dirty-rotten-stick-up-his-butt-poorly-endowed-non-amusing welcher!

Are ya having fun?
Before ya go and hang that well-used red-feather roach-clip on the mirror of your new car, allow me to make a few observations:

Thanks for at least trying to do some research. Your source is an anti-capitalism group who feel that ALL income should belong to the Gov't. That notwithstanding, they might produce a well-reasoned support of Ex's contention.
Unfortunately, (like Ex) they do not.

From your Commie-bastard source:
Half of those on the Forbes 400 list started their economic careers by inheriting businesses or substantial wealth.

So, they seem to have documentation to support a contention that 200 of the wealthiest 400 people on earth in 1997 can be said to have not "worked there way up" from poverty to wealth.
I couldn't find a source for the number of millionaires in 1997, but it doesn't matter.
In 2001, however:
"The almost 3% increase [in the number of millionaire since 2000] takes the number of HNWIs to 7.1 million people around the globe, according to the definitive report.

(HNWIs are people with financial assets of at least US$1million, excluding real estate.)"
source: http://www.us.capgemini.com/news/current_news.asp?ID=240&PRyear=2002

So, 200 compared to 7,100,000. Do the math. Well, you can't do the math. Their own thesis is not supported by this data, and it comes nowhere close to proving Ex's contention ("Actually, the overwhelming majority were born into (wealth)").


You really should read posts before commenting on them, LO.
Here are my sources and citations proving Ex to be either ignorant or a liar.
If you want to rebut, please address them with sources of your own:

Recently, PNC Wealth Management conducted a survey of people with more than $500,000 free to invest as they like, a fair definition of "wealthy," and possibly "millionaire" once you begin including home equity and other assets. Only 6% of those surveyed earned their money from inheritance alone. 69% earned their wealth mostly by trading time and effort for money, or by "working."  http://www.consumerismcommentary.com/2008/04/18/most-wealthy-individuals-earned-not-inherited-their-wealth/#comments

An overwhelming number of
affluent Americans earned their wealth and are more likely to feel secure
during challenging economic times compared to peers who inherited their money,
according to findings by PNC Wealth Management, a member of The PNC Financial
Services Group, Inc. (NYSE: PNC).
  http://www.reuters.com/article/pressRelease/idUS119380+10-Apr-2008+PRN20080410

1. According to a study of Federal Reserve data conducted by NYU professor Edward Wolff, for the nation's richest 1%, inherited wealth accounted for only 9% of their net worth in 2001, down from 23% in 1989. (The 2001 number was the latest available.)

2. According to a study by Prince & Associates, less than 10% of today's multi-millionaires cited "inheritance" as their source of wealth.

3. A study by Spectrem Group found that among today's millionaires, inherited wealth accounted for just 2% of their total sources of wealth.
  http://blogs.wsj.com/wealth/2008/01/14/the-decline-of-inherited-money/?mod=WSJBlog

Report findings show that in North America the largest share (32 percent) of
HNWI wealth is from income versus business ownership (26 percent) and inheritance (16
percent).
  http://www.capgemini.com/resources/news/world_wealth_report_finds_high_net_worth_individuals_increasingly_earn_rather_than_inherit_wealth/



Now, Ex's evidence offered in rebuttal to support his contention:

*crickets*


And this question remains unanswered:
"So tell us Ex, when you made this statement, "Actually, the overwhelming majority were born into (wealth)", were you knowingly lying, or were you just ignorantly assuming what you wanted to believe was true?"


Ex is a poseur. I hoisted him by his own petard and proved it to the forum.

"I contend that we are both religious. I just believe in one more god than you do. When you understand why you believe that a spontaneous "big bang" created all of time, space, and matter out of nothing, you will understand why I believe in a creator." -GoJ

Exterminator

Quote from: Ghost of Jaco on May 11, 2009, 12:20:14 PM
Are ya having fun?
Before ya go and hang that well-used red-feather roach-clip on the mirror of your new car, allow me to make a few observations:

This sounds pretty funny coming from an admitted drug abuser like yourself.

QuoteEx is a poseur. I hoisted him by his own petard and proved it to the forum.

Your picking and choosing which parts of data to use to substantiate your point is full of lots of huge holes but I see no point trying to educate some hillbilly crack-head who thinks he already has all of the answers.

Your using the upper middle class as examples of "rich" only underscores how far out of your depth you are.
Arguing with Christians is like playing chess with a pigeon.  No matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock over the pieces, shit on the board and strut around like it's victorious.

The truth is slow, but relentless. Over time it becomes irresistible.