Global Warming is Natural

[Henry Hawk]

You didn't even comment on my source. I thought you'd be proud of me, shocked or something. 

I'm sorry, I, of course, am VERY proud of you....I think, there may be a little 'conservative' kickin at the door, beggin to come out...there deep inside of you...

[Henry Hawk]

http://biz.yahoo.com/ap/070425/global_warming_film.html?.v=1

A group of British climate scientists is demanding changes to a skeptical documentary about global warming, saying there are grave errors in the program billed as a response to Al Gore's "An Inconvenient Truth."

"The fact is that it's a very convincing program, and if you're not very aware of the science you wouldn't necessarily see what the errors are," Ward said. "But the errors are huge. ... Without those errors in, he doesn't have a story."

[Sandy Eggo]

But the real scientists say that it's scientifically acurate. 

[Henry Hawk]

the "real" scientist?...

[Sandy Eggo]

the "real" scientist?...

 

I was funning with you, but regardless of the movie. Take Al Gore out of the entire picture. Global Warming is happening at a faster rate than it naturally would. This is largely due to human consumpution, which has steadily increased do to the increase in the population and the need for 1) places to live 2) transportation 3) ignorance about environmental protection measures such as protecting the air and from harsh chemicals 4) Devil-may-care attitude about preserving our Earth leading to deforestation...etc.

[Henry Hawk]

 

I was funning with you, but regardless of the movie. Take Al Gore out of the entire picture. Global Warming is happening at a faster rate than it naturally would. This is largely due to human consumpution, which has steadily increased do to the increase in the population and the need for 1) places to live 2) transportation 3) ignorance about environmental protection measures such as protecting the air and from harsh chemicals 4) Devil-may-care attitude about preserving our Earth leading to deforestation...etc.

How do you know that it is happening at a faster rate than naturally?....I do not buy any of that....most scientist will agree that, humans have very little to do with it.......global warming IS going to happen no matter what...and at some point in time, global cooling will begin.....

Now with that said, I, and most Conservatives are 100% in favor of ornamental protection and preserving the earth...we need to be aware of our negligence...but, we got to be careful and not do the wrong things just to make some whacko environmentalist happy, we need to be wise about all of this...

[awol]

....most scientist will agree that, humans have very little to do with it.......global warming IS going to happen no matter what...

i'd like to see yer figures on this.

[Sandy Eggo]

i'd like to see yer figures on this.

So would I and source also, please.

[Henry Hawk]

http://www.oism.org/pproject/s33p357.htm

Here is a pretty good link...shows about 17,000 scientist that are against the man-made global warming therory...

can you prove me wrong?

[Henry Hawk]

http://www.sitewave.net/news/s49p1366.htm
In the end, the global warming panic will take its place in the history books next to other environmental chimeras, such as the threat of DDT (but not of pandemic malaria), the peril of nuclear power (but not of coal mining), the brain-curdling effect of cellphones (but not of far more potent sun rays), the menace of powerlines (but not of poverty), the poison of alar (though not of rotten apple juice), the danger of asbestos in walls (but not of fire), the carcinogenic impact of PCBs (but not of carrots, peanut butter, coffee and other items that test more toxic in the same way) and the horror of radon and other sources of low-level radiation (despite its beneficial effect on health through a process called hormesis).


Overall, the situation is simple. Politicized scientists with government grants and dubious computer temperature models persuaded the world's politicians to make pompous fools of themselves in Kyoto. Socialist politicians were happy to join an absurd movement to impose government regulations over the world energy supply and thus over the world economy. The scientific claims and computer models have now blown up in their faces. But rather than admit error they persist in their fear-mongering. When this happened with DDT, hundreds of millions of people died of malaria. They continue to die. How many people would die as a result of an energy clamp on global capitalism?

[bevis]

why is mankind's impact on the world "unnatural"?  i've never understood that premise.

wouldn't shock me if henry's last post is right on.  wouldn't shock me if that was some corporate shill group of scientists either.

one thing i do know.  chaos theory says it is essentially impossible to predict the weather more than a few days ahead, even with satellites and all.    so how can there be such confidence in predictions about global climate hundreds of years ahead.

one other i do know.  we need to limit television news to no more than 1/2 hour a night for the whole world.  that would eliminate 90% of the stridency and fear in human society in about a week.  thank you 

[Sandy Eggo]

can you prove me wrong?

Yep, you may want to research some of this stuff a lil' further before standing behind it. Even looking at the link and applying critical reading skills, it just doesn't wash. This explains it better than I can:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oregon_Petition

Even had this source been creditable,  I'm still not sure that you would have proved that "most" scientists have rebuked the theory behind increased global warming due to humans.

[Sandy Eggo]

why is mankind's impact on the world "unnatural"?  i've never understood that premise.

I'd be interested to know how anyone wouldn't consider emissions from sources such as transportation and factories,  "unnatural"?  Or the chemicals released into the environment from chemical test sites and dumps aren't "unnatural"?  What about considering" deforestation" as a result of the overbuilding of strip malls, housing complexes and whatever else they rob our forests for is that "unnatural"?  That's just the tip of the iceberg, and all have been scientifically proven to be a major contributor to global warming. Perhaps you're right. People should watch less TV and read more.

[Henry Hawk]

Yep, you may want to research some of this stuff a lil' further before standing behind it. Even looking at the link and applying critical reading skills, it just doesn't wash. This explains it better than I can:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oregon_Petition

Even had this source been creditable,  I'm still not sure that you would have proved that "most" scientists have rebuked the theory behind increased global warming due to humans.

like wikipedia is a credible source?..

I am 100% convienced....the Global Warming by man is a scam....period......

[awol]

http://www.oism.org/pproject/s33p357.htm

Here is a pretty good link...shows about 17,000 scientist that are against the man-made global warming therory...

can you prove me wrong?

so, you contend that there are fewer than 34,000 scientists in the world?