Global Warming is Natural

[awol]

...and?

he's pointing out a truth that he would like to be able to dispute, but can't.

the rest of the "global warming" thing is speculation.  even on the part of the scientists.  best they got is an educated guess.  but then, they're pretty smart.

so, he goes on to dispute the extent to which global warming will make the planet uninhabitable.  but he offers no evidence of his own.  pure (uneducated) speculation.

[Henry Hawk]

but he offers no evidence of his own.  pure (uneducated) speculation.

Unlike Al Gore, right?....he only claims in his movie that the coastal waters will rise 20 feet by 2100.....whoops, his scientist now say it will more than likely be 23" instead......but, 23 inches is almost 20 feet....that was an educated speculation, right? 

[awol]

so, now you know who this guy is on par with.

feel better?

truth be told, i'm pretty much 'with you' on global warming.  i believe that the earth has its own defence against temperature.

it gets too hot, the ice melts, the oceans get desalinated to a critical point, the north atlantic flow slows - eventually stops, then it gets cold.

no problem.

doesn't mean we shouldn't do something about polution tho, (you only have to go to l.a. and look at the air to see that) which is a seperate issue to me, but the on the agenda of global warming cassandras.

[Henry Hawk]

so, now you know who this guy is on par with.

feel better?

truth be told, i'm pretty much 'with you' on global warming.  i believe that the earth has its own defence against temperature.

it gets too hot, the ice melts, the oceans get desalinated to a critical point, the north atlantic flow slows - eventually stops, then it gets cold.

no problem.

doesn't mean we shouldn't do something about polution tho, (you only have to go to l.a. and look at the air to see that) which is a seperate issue to me, but the on the agenda of global warming cassandras.

Heck yeah, I agree with you, we need to be accountable for our mess here, that is for sure....and, I think Bush HAS put in some policies and idea's that are working towards that.....

[IYT]

(Eric Cartman voice)  I love you guys.

[Henry Hawk]

Whatever happend to the Hole in the Ozone Layer that the "Scientist" a few years ago, claimed that was going to be the ruin of this world?

and whatever happened to the "Acid Rain" that was totally ruining our water systems and destroying our agriculture?

just wondering....haven't heard much about these issues since the Global Warming thing came into play...

[Sandy Eggo]

If you do any reading on global warming (from scientific sources) the hole in the Ozone is still there and getting bigger. Henry, I think it's the total effect of everything that's wearing our home out. You can't point at one single part of the problem and say "oh, that's supposed to be the end of the earth and it didn't happen, so it's not valid". There are several factors which contribute to the entire problem which is a threat to us.

I honestly don't know about acid rain, I know what you're talking about, but haven't encountered it in my reading for a while either.

[Henry Hawk]

http://www.ens-newswire.com/ens/may2006/2006-05-08-05.asp
Earth's Ozone Layer Starting to Heal

The latest measurement of the ozone layer in the Northern Hemisphere, taken May 6, 2006, shows the hole is smaller than in previous years at this time. (Image courtesy NOAA)


MsMojo, again, I'm all for doing the right thing for our planet, but I truly think that way too many scientist and special lobby groups are plugging "the sky is falling" to keep their industry funded, imo.....

anyway, through this forum, I have read up more and more than I ever normaly would have to form my opinion on this whole global warming escapde....

[IYT]

and whatever happened to the "Acid Rain"

The hippies collected it in puddles then tripped away up to the sky and are healing our ozone layer.  Don't ya see?  Besides, whatever happened to Jesus coming back?

[Henry Hawk]

The hippies collected it in puddles then tripped away up to the sky and are healing our ozone layer.  Don't ya see?  Besides, whatever happened to Jesus coming back?

According to Scripture....anytime!!

[IYT]

Perhaps thou hast already come?

[Sandy Eggo]

I imagine it has shrunk some based one efforts to reduce pollution. However, unless we take this seriously and continue our efforts then either it won't completely heal or the process will so slow that all of the other factors involved will get out of control.

It amazes me your mistrust of science. Science exists because of our need to know and understand why things happen. Living on this planet comes with a responsibility to protect and preserve it, if we want our children to be able to live here and their children, etc. It would be fairly selfish of us to go on status quo, considering the evidence that we are destroying the planet with apathy (that covers more than just the environment too, btw) and leave nothing except a huge mess for future generations. We have the knowledge, resources and power to do something about this now. Why not take advantage of them?


Since you're interested, check this out - basic, but kinda interesting:

http://www.nationalgeographic.com/eye/ozone/ozone.html

[IYT]

It amazes me your mistrust of science.

Probably it's because science doesn't pay the bills...or something.

[Henry Hawk]

I imagine it has shrunk some based one efforts to reduce pollution. However, unless we take this seriously and continue our efforts then either it won't completely heal or the process will so slow that all of the other factors involved will get out of control.

It amazes me your mistrust of science. Science exists because of our need to know and understand why things happen. Living on this planet comes with a responsibility to protect and preserve it, if we want our children to be able to live here and their children, etc. It would be fairly selfish of us to go on status quo, considering the evidence that we are destroying the planet with apathy (that covers more than just the environment too, btw) and leave nothing except a huge mess for future generations. We have the knowledge, resources and power to do something about this now. Why not take advantage of them?


Since you're interested, check this out - basic, but kinda interesting:

http://www.nationalgeographic.com/eye/ozone/ozone.html

maybe it is kind of like the saying politics and religion don't mix....I think 'some' scientist and politics don't mix...cause, money is driving many of these scientist....I think the politicians have an agenda, and is using some scientist and there theories as a means to achieve thier agenda....the sky is falling crap can ruin our economy if we are not careful...that is it for me....Like Ronald Reagan said, "Trust but verify"...and that is what I'm trying to do..

[Henry Hawk]

http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/story/0,21985,21269012-661,00.html

Here is an example of 'the sky is falling' ... scare tactics that piss me off...

GLOBAL warming will take a toll on children's health

a 'study' predicts....