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The New Abortion Debate

Started by The Troll, May 18, 2019, 07:28:50 PM

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The Troll

Once again the Far Right Christian Republican Party has proved they are just as bad as the Taliban, ISIS and Muslims when it come to sending us back to the 15th century.  Taking the rights of women to do what they want with their own bodies.  Just where do these cum buckets think that they have the right to stick their nose in a woman's business.
  Surely the women of America will stand up against the religious MFers that cause all of this pain.  I wish a pox on on each and every home of the God loving sons of bitches.  I get so angry when a group of bottom sucking assholes stick their noses in someone else's business.  May they all got to hell and make it quick.  :rant:

Henry Hawk

Religion doesn't necessarily have anything to do with it......but KILLING is KILLING. No matter HOW you slice it.
"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."
Ecclesiastes 10:2 - It all makes sense to me now...


"The future ain't what it used to be."– Yogi Berra

"Square roots are rarely found on any plant." FTW

Exterminator

Quote from: Henry Hawk on May 20, 2019, 08:46:47 AMReligion doesn't necessarily have anything to do with it...

Bullshit.
Arguing with Christians is like playing chess with a pigeon.  No matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock over the pieces, shit on the board and strut around like it's victorious.

The truth is slow, but relentless. Over time it becomes irresistible.

Henry Hawk

I don't believe you HAVE to be religious to understand that KILLING IS KILLING.  I think an Atheist can understand this pretty simply.....Killing a baby is wrong.  Sugar coat it as much as you want....the bottom line IS...Killing a baby.
"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."
Ecclesiastes 10:2 - It all makes sense to me now...


"The future ain't what it used to be."– Yogi Berra

"Square roots are rarely found on any plant." FTW

Locutus

One of the gravest dangers to the survival of our republic is an ignorant electorate routinely feeding at the trough of propaganda.   -- Locutus

"We are all connected; To each other, biologically. To the earth, chemically. To the rest of the universe atomically."  -- Dr. Neil deGrasse Tyson

The Troll

Quote from: Henry Hawk on May 20, 2019, 10:43:29 AMI don't believe you HAVE to be religious to understand that KILLING IS KILLING.  I think an Atheist can understand this pretty simply.....Killing a baby is wrong.  Sugar coat it as much as you want....the bottom line IS...Killing a baby.


You fucking Republicans kill to.  You just wait until they are of legal age and you send them to war and kill them there.  Both Bush's went to war and killed and maim thousands of our young men and women, now Trump wants to do it.  But you god damn Christians don't want young people to even practice birth control or sex education. 

  What don't you god damn Christians don't understand about, if isn't you or your family, what god damn business is yours to stick your nose in someone else's business and use a government law to back it up.  You really can tell when someone is real religious, how?  Because they are morons and idiots and got their heads stuck up their asses.  :trustme:

Henry Hawk

Quote from: Locutus on May 20, 2019, 10:54:05 AMfetus != baby
Baby = Child = Adult... 

We can argue until the cows come home and neither of us will change our minds.......I will respect the law, but I don't have to agree with it.  It's fuggars like the Troll, who make it impossible to carry a logical debate about it.
"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."
Ecclesiastes 10:2 - It all makes sense to me now...


"The future ain't what it used to be."– Yogi Berra

"Square roots are rarely found on any plant." FTW

Exterminator

Quote from: Henry Hawk on May 20, 2019, 10:43:29 AMI don't believe you HAVE to be religious to understand that KILLING IS KILLING.  I think an Atheist can understand this pretty simply.....Killing a baby is wrong.  Sugar coat it as much as you want....the bottom line IS...Killing a baby.

A zygote is not a baby.
Arguing with Christians is like playing chess with a pigeon.  No matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock over the pieces, shit on the board and strut around like it's victorious.

The truth is slow, but relentless. Over time it becomes irresistible.

Henry Hawk

A zygote IS a baby.....just at its earliest stage.......just as a baby and then a toddler....

Call it what you will, but it IS LIFE.....

Not going to argue.....but I will state my FACTS and BELIEFS... and stand by them.

Like I have stated...the law is the law......but it isn't always right....

"A lie doesn't become truth, wrong doesn't become right, and evil doesn't become good, just because it's accepted by a majority." Booker T Washington
"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."
Ecclesiastes 10:2 - It all makes sense to me now...


"The future ain't what it used to be."– Yogi Berra

"Square roots are rarely found on any plant." FTW

Exterminator

Quote from: Henry Hawk on May 20, 2019, 01:43:12 PMA zygote IS a baby.....just at its earliest stage.......just as a baby and then a toddler....

With no intervention whatsoever, less than a third of fertilized eggs result in live births.

QuoteCall it what you will, but it IS LIFE.....

So is cancer, should we pass laws to prevent people from killing it?

The truth behind the anti-abortion crusade.
Arguing with Christians is like playing chess with a pigeon.  No matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock over the pieces, shit on the board and strut around like it's victorious.

The truth is slow, but relentless. Over time it becomes irresistible.

The Troll

Quote from: Henry Hawk on May 20, 2019, 12:47:16 PMBaby = Child = Adult...

We can argue until the cows come home and neither of us will change our minds.......I will respect the law, but I don't have to agree with it.  It's fuggars like the Troll, who make it impossible to carry a logical debate about it.
There is no logical debate with you.  Your brain is a lump of coal.  There is no law against abortion. But you god damn stupid Christians want a government law against.  That the rub, you want a law to force your fucking religion down our women's throats.  You want a law to make it a crime.  You fucking Christians want a woman to carry a baby to term and when the kid hits the ground you don't want to pay one dime to feed it, house it, educate it.  You want to be in the judgement seat calling all the rules, but you cheap bastards don't want to put in one dime to take care of the problem.  Fuck you son's of bitches.  Believe me when I say this. :trustme:

The Troll

Quote from: Henry Hawk on May 20, 2019, 12:47:16 PMBaby = Child = Adult...

We can argue until the cows come home and neither of us will change our minds.......I will respect the law, but I don't have to agree with it.  It's fuggars like the Troll, who make it impossible to carry a logical debate about it.
There is no logical debate with you.  Your brain is a lump of coal.  There is no law against abortion. But you god damn stupid Christians want a government law against.  That the rub, you want a law to force your fucking religion down our women's throats.  You want a law to make it a crime.  You fucking Christians want a woman to carry a baby to term and when the kid hits the ground you don't want to pay one dime to feed it, house it, educate it.  You want to be in the judgement seat calling all the rules, but you cheap bastards don't want to put in one dime to take care of the problem.  Fuck you son's of bitches.  Believe me when I say this. :trustme:

The Troll

  Henry Hawk has the brain power of a maggot and when it (brain) grows up it will be one big Blow Fly.  Looking for something dead to feed upon.   :sarcasm:

AbbyTC

Quote from: Henry Hawk on May 20, 2019, 01:43:12 PMA zygote IS a baby.....just at its earliest stage.......just as a baby and then a toddler....

Call it what you will, but it IS LIFE.....

Not going to argue.....but I will state my FACTS and BELIEFS... and stand by them.

Like I have stated...the law is the law......but it isn't always right....

"A lie doesn't become truth, wrong doesn't become right, and evil doesn't become good, just because it's accepted by a majority." Booker T Washington

Where is your outrage at all of the embryos that have been trashed by fertility clinics?  I never hear the pro-life crowd mention them.  Life is life you said. 

If you're so against abortion, then why don't you start a campaign for men to get vasectomies until they are ready to be fathers and impregnate a woman?  Vasectomies are reversible and have a success rate of up to 90%.  If all men would step up and do that, we could end abortion very quickly!

In three words I can sum up everything I've learned about life: it goes on. Robert Frost

Perhaps the butterfly is proof that you can go through a great deal of darkness yet become something beautiful.

AbbyTC

This is one thing that pisses me off about the abortion debate.  Responsibility is always pushed on the woman.  "If she didn't want to get pregnant she shouldn't have had sex". I've seen this one often. It takes two to make a baby. Why aren't we telling men this? Oh, that's right, they shoot the sperm then walk away if they want to.  "Why didn't she use birth control?"  Why didn't he wear a condom?  "If she didn't want raped, she shouldn't have dressed that way."  How many lesbians have you heard of raping a woman because of how's she's dressed?  Why is it so hard for men to control themselves?  These strict abortion laws are bullshit and just a way to control a woman. 

I know of no woman that has said, "gee, I want an abortion! I'm going to get pregnant just to have one!"  But I have read the stories women have told on why they have had abortions.  None had taken the decision lightly and knew they made the best choice.
In three words I can sum up everything I've learned about life: it goes on. Robert Frost

Perhaps the butterfly is proof that you can go through a great deal of darkness yet become something beautiful.