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Anyone Else Had Enough of American Capitalism?

Started by Y, February 17, 2019, 08:54:31 PM

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Exterminator

Quote from: me on March 22, 2019, 11:07:40 AM
Exactly how are we responsible for Venezuela and the Islam countries?

Are you completely ignorant of how the U.S. has meddled in the affairs of sovereign nations for decades?  We have gone so far as to orchestrate coups against democratically elected governments and installed dictators if we thought it would benefit American businesses.

QuoteMuslims want to enforce Sharia law here, Mexicans spit on and burn our flag and so does Venezuela. Muslims also expect us to be tolerant of Islam and they don't tolerate Christianity. Immigrants need to do it the right way at ports of entry and respect our laws and customs not expect us to change to suit them.

Bullshit racist hyperbole in which you ascribe to entire populations the deeds of a few bad actors.  What, exactly, is it about you that makes you think you're better than they are?  Because you're white?

That's a rhetorical question, by the way; no need to actually answer it.
Arguing with Christians is like playing chess with a pigeon.  No matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock over the pieces, shit on the board and strut around like it's victorious.

The truth is slow, but relentless. Over time it becomes irresistible.

me

Quote from: Exterminator on March 22, 2019, 12:53:58 PM
Are you completely ignorant of how the U.S. has meddled in the affairs of sovereign nations for decades?  We have gone so far as to orchestrate coups against democratically elected governments and installed dictators if we thought it would benefit American businesses.

Bullshit racist hyperbole in which you ascribe to entire populations the deeds of a few bad actors.  What, exactly, is it about you that makes you think you're better than they are?  Because you're white?

That's a rhetorical question, by the way; no need to actually answer it.
Why is it the dems always go to the race card when someone disagrees with them about anything? The color of the skin has nothing to do with the immigration problem and you know it. I will not be intimidated into believing mass illegal immigration is an ok thing. You had better hope the conservatives aren't the ones saying "I tried to tell you" in the not too distant future because that would be a very bad thing to have happen.
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Locutus

Quote from: Exterminator on March 22, 2019, 09:23:43 AM


Fight against assimilating how, exactly?  By eating burritos?  :rolleyes:

And speaking Spanish, and generally looking all greasy-like.  :rolleyes:
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Exterminator

Arguing with Christians is like playing chess with a pigeon.  No matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock over the pieces, shit on the board and strut around like it's victorious.

The truth is slow, but relentless. Over time it becomes irresistible.

The Troll

Quote from: me on March 22, 2019, 05:10:21 PM
Why is it the dems always go to the race card when someone disagrees with them about anything? The color of the skin has nothing to do with the immigration problem and you know it. I will not be intimidated into believing mass illegal immigration is an ok thing. You had better hope the conservatives aren't the ones saying "I tried to tell you" in the not too distant future because that would be a very bad thing to have happen.

  Well, I know one thing for sure Old Woman.  You are not going to be around to see all of the bad thing you say are going to happen.  You are going to be pushing up grass, looking at it's roots.  :trustme:  :wink: :smile:

me

Quote from: The Troll on March 30, 2019, 12:57:12 PM
  Well, I know one thing for sure Old Woman.  You are not going to be around to see all of the bad thing you say are going to happen.  You are going to be pushing up grass, looking at it's roots.  :trustme:  :wink: :smile:
Aaaawwww little man you're so full of cheer and sunshine.....
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The Troll

Quote from: me on March 31, 2019, 12:28:52 PM
Aaaawwww little man you're so full of cheer and sunshine.....

  I will say one more thing Old Red Head.  :gorgeous:  You and Henry  are just a like. :bird:  You're just like baby Robins.  Alway got your mouths open and full of shit.   :choo:

Y

Quote from: me on March 21, 2019, 06:10:15 PMIf they're coming here for a better life why do they fight against assimilating?

Oh!  Like the Irish or the Italians or Jews etc. who cling to their old customs, have parades and ethnic holidays, continue to speak their own languages etc..

That's OK though because they're considered 'white', right?

It's not OK for those that are considered 'colored' though.  They're not 'assimilating'.
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Quote from: Y on May 23, 2019, 01:18:15 PMOh!  Like the Irish or the Italians or Jews etc. who cling to their old customs, have parades and ethnic holidays, continue to speak their own languages etc..

That's OK though because they're considered 'white', right?

It's not OK for those that are considered 'colored' though.  They're not 'assimilating'.

Spot on!
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me

Quote from: Y on May 23, 2019, 01:18:15 PMOh!  Like the Irish or the Italians or Jews etc. who cling to their old customs, have parades and ethnic holidays, continue to speak their own languages etc..

That's OK though because they're considered 'white', right?

It's not OK for those that are considered 'colored' though.  They're not 'assimilating'.
They do not expect us to change to suit them and race has nothing to do with it so don't even go there.
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Henry Hawk

Written by a millennial with the perspective a person from the "greatest generation." 
Please read:

Entitlement will be the death of capitalism and our great country if allowed to fester in our young people.

"I'm sitting in a small coffee shop near Nokomis trying to think of what to write about. I scroll through my newsfeed on my phone looking at the latest headlines of Democratic candidates calling for policies to "fix" the so-called injustices of capitalism. I put my phone down and continue to look around. I see people talking freely, working on their MacBook's, ordering food they get in an instant, seeing cars go by outside, and it dawned on me. We live in the most privileged time in the most prosperous nation and we've become completely blind to it. Vehicles, food, technology, freedom to associate with whom we choose. These things are so ingrained in our American way of life we don't give them a second thought. We are so well off here in the United States that our poverty line begins 31 times above the global average. Thirty. One. Times. Virtually no one in the United States is considered poor by global standards. Yet, in a time where we can order a product off Amazon with one click and have it at our doorstep the next day, we are unappreciative, unsatisfied, and ungrateful.

Our unappreciation is evident as the popularity of socialist policies among my generation continues to grow. Democratic Congresswoman Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez recently said to Newsweek talking about the millennial generation, "An entire generation, which is now becoming one of the largest electorates in America, came of age and never saw American prosperity."

Never saw American prosperity. Let that sink in. When I first read that statement, I thought to myself, that was quite literally the most entitled and factually illiterate thing I've ever heard in my 26 years on this earth. Now, I'm not attributing Miss Ocasio-Cortez's words to outright dishonesty. I do think she whole-heartedly believes the words she said to be true. Many young people agree with her, which is entirely misguided. My generation is being indoctrinated by a mainstream narrative to actually believe we have never seen prosperity. I know this first hand, I went to college, let's just say I didn't have the popular opinion, but I digress.

Let me lay down some universal truths really quick. The United States of America has lifted more people out of abject poverty, spread more freedom and democracy, and has created more innovation in technology and medicine than any other nation in human history. Not only that but our citizenry continually breaks world records with charitable donations, the rags to riches story is not only possible in America but not uncommon, we have the strongest purchasing power on earth, and we encompass 25% of the world's GDP. The list goes on. However, these universal truths don't matter. We are told that income inequality is an existential crisis (even though this is not an indicator of prosperity, some of the poorest countries in the world have low-income inequality), we are told that we are oppressed by capitalism (even though it's brought about more freedom and wealth to the most people than any other system in world history), we are told that the only way we will acquire the benefits of true prosperity is through socialism and centralization of federal power (even though history has proven time and again this only brings tyranny and suffering).

Why then, with all of the overwhelming evidence around us, evidence that I can even see sitting at a coffee shop, do we not view this as prosperity? We have people who are dying to get into our country. People around the world destitute and truly impoverished. Yet, we have a young generation convinced they've never seen prosperity, and as a result, elect politicians dead set on taking steps towards abolishing capitalism. Why? The answer is this, my generation has ONLY seen prosperity. We have no contrast. We didn't live in the great depression, or live through two world wars, or see the rise and fall of socialism and communism. We don't know what it's like not to live without the internet, without cars, without smartphones. We don't have a lack of prosperity problem. We have an entitlement problem, an ungratefulness problem, and it's spreading like a plague.

With the current political climate giving rise to the misguided idea of a socialist utopia, will we see the light? Or will we have to lose it all to realize that what we have now is true prosperity? Destroying the free market will undo what millions of people have died to achieve.

My generation is becoming the largest voting bloc in the country. We have an opportunity to continue to propel us forward with the gifts capitalism and democracy has given us. The other option is that we can fall into the trap of entitlement and relapse into restrictive socialist destitution. The choice doesn't seem too hard, does it?" 

Amen and Amen

Alyssa Ahlgren
"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."
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"The future ain't what it used to be."– Yogi Berra

"Square roots are rarely found on any plant." FTW

Exterminator

Arguing with Christians is like playing chess with a pigeon.  No matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock over the pieces, shit on the board and strut around like it's victorious.

The truth is slow, but relentless. Over time it becomes irresistible.

Henry Hawk

"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."
Ecclesiastes 10:2 - It all makes sense to me now...


"The future ain't what it used to be."– Yogi Berra

"Square roots are rarely found on any plant." FTW

The Troll

 
  You wouldn't know the truth if it caused your head to pop out of your ass.  You so god damn despicable.  :kissit:

Henry Hawk

c'mon Troll, let's go have a tenderloin and a beer together!! I'll buy!  ;)
"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."
Ecclesiastes 10:2 - It all makes sense to me now...


"The future ain't what it used to be."– Yogi Berra

"Square roots are rarely found on any plant." FTW