13 Year Old Girls Missing- Found Murdered

[Palehorse]

Part of me doubts that guy is anywhere near that area.

I feel the same. My guess is he was on his way to parts unknown as soon as he was done with the girls. 

But as we have learned recently, there is no accounting for the actions of stupid people; so if this monster is a Hoosier and he is still in the state, eventually the reward should help shine a light on him.

[Henry Hawk]

Pat McAfee, Jim Irsay donate cash to bring Delphi reward to $200,000

[Y]

Here are my opines on this case.

To my eye, there are two scenarios.

1) The girls - or one of them - had prior contact with the murderer, scheduled a meeting, and went to the trail explicitly to meet the murderer.

2) This was a crime of opportunity - a chance meeting.


If it's number one, there should be some evidentiary trail leading towards the murderer.

If it's number two - and especially if the murderer was not from the area and even out of state - the odds are slim for apprehension unless the murderer is a serial killer and screws up another murder.


My main questions are: a) how did the murderer get to the crime area; b) if there was a vehicle, where was it parked; c) where is the murderer's trail down to the crime scene and away from the crime scene; d) why were the girls dropped off alone and why were they there?


My opinion on the investigation is that the local and state LEO's don't have a clue and may have already bungled the investigation and are only making noises until the public scrutiny blows over.  I hope that doesn't turn out to be true.

[Locutus]

As usual Y, those are good observations all the way around. 

[Y]

As usual Y, those are good observations all the way around.

TY, I appreciate the compliment, but unfortunately I think my previous point it true:

My opinion on the investigation is that the local and state LEO's don't have a clue and may have already bungled the investigation and are only making noises until the public scrutiny blows over.  I hope that doesn't turn out to be true.

I'd lay money now that everything I stated is true.  Sad, but true.

[Palehorse]

. . .

My guess is he's a serial killer that just appeared on radar. He has likely done something similar to this before; and he will do it again. Only somewhere else.  .  . Whatever method he used to kill these girls, his supplies are in that fanny pack. (And perhaps even in his left front pocket of his jeans. It appears to be either an oversized cell phone or a pocket holster for a firearm.)

I'm saying he's a serial killer almost for sure. . . And he will eventually be caught through some other murder. . . As Y says, too much time has passed and if someone knew who he was they'd have already coughed up his name and location for the reward. He's just as gone as the lives of those two girls. . .

[Palehorse]

Police spokesman says there is a "similar case" that took place in Iowa, however they cannot connect the two cases at this time. . .

224,000 reward

Libby's Grandfather spoke on behalf of the family. Well spoken gentleman and how he was able to stand there and answer what were in some cases, seriously stupid and repetitive questions, without losing it, is beyond me. I now know where Libby got her ability to think on her feet. (At least in part).

No new information and law enforcement refused to confirm or deny anything. "No definitive answers", "No stone will be left unturned and we are open to anything".  Political cop speak for we don't know anymore than we did day one. . . and if we do we aren't saying. . .

Once again, I am astonished at the emotional reaction from law enforcement in this case. Indiana State Police clearly are having a VERY tough time emotionally with this crime and the circumstances. The ISP spokesman who also spoke, Sergeant Grimes, was responsive and correctly evasive in his answers to reporters questions; eventually wrestling with his emotions at the end of the conference. Clearly ISP cares. . .

[Palehorse]

One fact that did come out is that Libby did indeed record (video) the guy. . . and left the phone on record. . . So (I would assume) they have some pretty gruesome audio, and perhaps video, of what transpired. . .

I could not ever imagine having to watch and listen to that. I hope they don't call me to serve on this idiots jury; not because I'd have an issue with finding him guilty, because that would not be a problem. I'm just not sure how I would handle having to listen/view the recorded material in open court. . . 

[Palehorse]

Here's a link to local coverage of the conference this morning:
http://www.wthr.com/article/please-we-need-your-help-libby-germans-grandfather-speaks

http://www.indystar.com/story/news/crime/2017/03/09/family-slain-delphi-girl-speak-out-today/98943428/

[Palehorse]

Here's a theory on what happened to Abby and Libby, and the possible link between their murders and those of two other girls murdered in Iowa in 2012. . .

https://www.youtube.com/v/q-ApcUeBenA

[Locutus]

Wow!  Very interesting. 

May not be connected at all, but there are certainly some similarities that are interesting. 

[Palehorse]

Wow!  Very interesting. 

May not be connected at all, but there are certainly some similarities that are interesting.

Seems like a bit of a reach to me, but then who really knows the mind of a serial killer? 

[Locutus]

Yeah, there's no way that a serial killer can plan a day when two girls are going to just show up and hike on a trail all alone.  He can lurk in and around trails, obviously, but there's no way of knowing when two young girls would be out alone.

What do you think about the sum of the dates mentioned in the video?

[Palehorse]

http://www.wthr.com/article/police-search-home-property-of-man-where-delphi-teens-were-found

Police searched the home of the man that lives on the property where the girls were found.

He is on probation for something or another. No word on what, if anything, was discovered. . . But early on my wife mentioned she was suspicious of him after he gave an interview to WTHR and escorted them to the area where the girls were found in a segment that aired within days of their discovery. . .

Yeah, there's no way that a serial killer can plan a day when two girls are going to just show up and hike on a trail all alone.  He can lurk in and around trails, obviously, but there's no way of knowing when two young girls would be out alone.

What do you think about the sum of the dates mentioned in the video?

Stranger things have happened, and while I am doubtful of the numbers theory I wouldn't toss it onto the scrap heap just yet. If there is one thing I've learned in life, it is that truth is stranger than fiction a lot of the time. . .

[Locutus]

Anything come of the search yet?