13 Year Old Girls Missing- Found Murdered

[Locutus]

If any of you remember the little MacKenzie girl who was murdered about 20 years ago, she was killed by a very young person, I think he was 12 or 13. He had molested her then when she threatened to tell he pretty much stomped her to death. They had to have two trials, first one was a hung jury. One of the jurors said he didn't think a child should be convicted of murder even if he did it. My grandson was in the same class at school, Southview. They were in first or second grade. It took awhile for him to get over being afraid of 'the big boys.

Unfortunately, we humans are capable of despicable acts regardless of age or any other factors. 

[Palehorse]

If any of you remember the little MacKenzie girl who was murdered about 20 years ago, she was killed by a very young person, I think he was 12 or 13. He had molested her then when she threatened to tell he pretty much stomped her to death. They had to have two trials, first one was a hung jury. One of the jurors said he didn't think a child should be convicted of murder even if he did it. My grandson was in the same class at school, Southview. They were in first or second grade. It took awhile for him to get over being afraid of 'the big boys.

Chuckie was 15 when he was convicted of criminal rape and premeditated murder. He spent the 1st couple of years in a juvenile facility, but they sentenced him as an adult. That sentencing was subject to appeal, but once the pair of them were charged with a second murder, mutilation, and rape, it was pretty much a foregone conclusion that he was spend the rest of his life in prison. Which he did. But it wasn't a long stretch. . . For either of them.

I remember when my sisters boyfriend was out on bail before the trial. I ran into him as he sat on the stoop of the Polish Deli that Wednesday. I just looked at him and asked him what the hell he was doing out of jail. His parents had put up their two flat to make his bail. (Most stores were closed on Wednesdays back then). He was 18 and was going straight to the big house once they had the trial. He had been in the Cook County Jail, which isn't a picnic either.

I remember telling him he had better get his ass home before someone looking to kill him sees him.  I didn't make it to the end of the block before a group of friends of her brothers spotted him. 2 minutes later the cops were on them, but he was bleeding from a busted lip, head, and nose. They would have killed him had the cops not been tailing him.

Some people just don't have a conscious . . . 

[Palehorse]

Unfortunately, we humans are capable of despicable acts regardless of age or any other factors.

I once had aspirations to become a police officer. But decided very early on that dealing with the very worst of humanity every day, all day, would have turned me into a monster of some kind. It was bad enough what I had seen all through my childhood. I wasn't up for a daily dose of that crap. 

I don't know how the men and women that do that for a living can stay sane. It's no wonder a large percentage of them turn to substance abuse or worse. . .

[Palehorse]

Sorry everyone. I didn't intend to take this topic for a stroll down creepshow lane and my old neighborhood.

The thing that got me thinking about all of this were the words and emotions of the Commander of the Indiana State Police and the other authorities that spoke at the press conference this morning. They were/are visibly and emotionally shaken by what has happened, and if you think about the fact that they deal with the worst of humanity every day, for this to evoke such an obvious emotional response from them says a lot surrounding the nature of what took place with these two girls. It is horrific; and probably far worse than any of us can imagine. . .

[Locutus]

These threads always take on a life of their own.

[Henry Hawk]

WOW!  That story could make a good movie.......unfortunately, it makes for a horrific real life tragedy for a family in Chicago........and that stuff goes on...DAILY!!!

I don't think I will ever remotely understand, HOW it is possible for someone to be that evil!!

I think, because of so many movies, TV shows and video games made after such events, much of our population has become NUMB to tragedies like these.........until it hits home.

[Locutus]

Any new developments over the last 2-3 days?

[Palehorse]

Any new developments over the last 2-3 days?

Nope. 

[Locutus]

That guy is most likely not going to be found.

The only way he may be caught is if:

1. He's originally from, or lives in that area, and someone knows him and turns him in.

2. He's a serial killer who kills again, gets caught as part of some future crime, and then confesses to this one. 

Like you said previously, the chances of them finding him lessens considerably with each passing day. 

[Anne]

I wonder what kind of forensic evidence the police have. If they have some DNA that would help down the road. They really haven't put much information out. I understand why, but it seems odd that there is nothing being said.

[Palehorse]

Because they are conducting a double-homicide investigation as it SHOULD be conducted; outside of the media and the eyes and ears of the general public. They'll never reveal what they know, other than what may be necessary to catch the criminal(s).

When and if they catch him, we'll likely hear a whole lot more than we want to know at the arraignment hearing.

I'm with Locutus on this though. It has been 2 weeks and no suspect identified. There never may be.

[Locutus]

Were the girls sexually assaulted as well, or just murdered?

[Palehorse]

Were the girls sexually assaulted as well, or just murdered?

Unknown. Authorities have been absolutely silent surrounding any details outside of the fact the girls were murdered. They have not even said how they were murdered.

[Palehorse]

http://www.wthr.com/article/pat-mcafee-jim-irsay-raise-delphi-reward-to-200k

Irsay and Pat McAfee have raid the reward to 200k. 

If the perp(s) is a Hoosier, then soon another Hoosier will turn his ass in. We are quickly approaching the kind of money that will make a Hoosier turn in his mother.

[Locutus]

Part of me doubts that guy is anywhere near that area.