Healthcare Gone Wild

[me]

So what, specifically, is your problem with Obamacare?  This ties in to the question on the other thread as to how you've been wronged and adversely affected by the policies of the last 8 years.

I'd really like to know. 

Is it subsidies?

Just posted there.

[Palehorse]

Indiana changed the medicare program rather than participate in the ACA. . .

[me]

Indiana changed the medicare program rather than participate in the ACA. . .

Hum, wonder if that's why our friend in Ky is having to pay more.

[Locutus]

Might look good to you from this end but it sure isn't all it's cracked up to be, universal health care that is.

This statement continues to astound me.  How can someone like you, who is on Medicaid with subsidies, make such a statement?

How exactly are you negatively impacted by this legislation?

[me]

This statement continues to astound me.  How can someone like you, who is on Medicaid with subsidies, make such a statement?

How exactly are you negatively impacted by this legislation?

Both me and hubby have had things come up that required immediate care which we would have had to be put on a waiting list for there.

[Palehorse]

Hum, wonder if that's why our friend in Ky is having to pay more.

My sister in KY, (a disabled healthcare professional herself), has been in their system for years. Indiana used to be when you went onto disability you automatically were covered by medicaid, etc. immediately. Not anymore here. Now you have to endure 24 months without any healthcare coverage what so ever, before you can obtain medicaid. (Which my sister in KY had to endure several years ago herself, because KY has had that for a long time).

Moreover, states that chose NOT to participate in the ACA had their federal funding for medicaid reduced or eliminated. And before you get onto that spotted high horse of yours and start spewing more half cocked "wisdom", remember that your Clown In Chief, the Raging Cheeto, and his clown car filled with liars are getting ready to impose even deeper cuts to medicare/medicaid, and a whole to of other philanthropic programs from which millions of Americans have benefitted over the past 40+ years. (And once he starts this next world war, this nation is going to need the tribal knowledge and experience of many of those he is crapping on in order to crank up manufacturing to fill the supply lines of the war machine back up; if they are still alive).

So if you think you're safe, think again. The ship is leaking badly, but you just don't see it yet. Soon your socks are going to be soggy and when they are it will be far too late to do anything about it. . . And shortly thereafter you will be out of luck . . . 

(And that billion dollar surplus Indiana was crowing about? Yeah, that's about gone now, so look out. . . )

[me]

My sister in KY, (a disabled healthcare professional herself), has been in their system for years. Indiana used to be when you went onto disability you automatically were covered by medicaid, etc. immediately. Not anymore here. Now you have to endure 24 months without any healthcare coverage what so ever, before you can obtain medicaid. (Which my sister in KY had to endure several years ago herself, because KY has had that for a long time).

Moreover, states that chose NOT to participate in the ACA had their federal funding for medicaid reduced or eliminated. And before you get onto that spotted high horse of yours and start spewing more half cocked "wisdom", remember that your Clown In Chief, the Raging Cheeto, and his clown car filled with liars are getting ready to impose even deeper cuts to medicare/medicaid, and a whole to of other philanthropic programs from which millions of Americans have benefitted over the past 40+ years. (And once he starts this next world war, this nation is going to need the tribal knowledge and experience of many of those he is crapping on in order to crank up manufacturing to fill the supply lines of the war machine back up; if they are still alive).

So if you think you're safe, think again. The ship is leaking badly, but you just don't see it yet. Soon your socks are going to be soggy and when they are it will be far too late to do anything about it. . . And shortly thereafter you will be out of luck . . . 

(And that billion dollar surplus Indiana was crowing about? Yeah, that's about gone now, so look out. . . )

I was talking about Medicare not Medicaid.

[Exterminator]

This statement continues to astound me.  How can someone like you, who is on Medicaid with subsidies, make such a statement?

It boggles the mind, doesn't it?  She's actually telling us that the system that works for her won't work for others.  WTF?

[Exterminator]

I covered that when they were trying to pass Obama care and Ex gave me shit for it so I won't go there again but, believe me, it isn't all it's cracked up to be. I'm related to some people who lived in Canada for several years and experienced that health care and who now live in the states with their Canadian spouses.

Googling "what do Canadians think of their health care system" exposes your lies.

[me]

Googling "what do Canadians think of their health care system" exposes your lies.

So me having relatives who actually lived there and are married to Canadians doesn't count? Sure some of them may like it because that's all they know but there are those who prefer our system.

[me]

This statement continues to astound me.  How can someone like you, who is on Medicaid with subsidies, make such a statement?

How exactly are you negatively impacted by this legislation?

Medicare with a supplement.

I pay for the extra coverage for scrips, eye, and dental.

[Exterminator]

So me having relatives who actually lived there and are married to Canadians doesn't count? Sure some of them may like it because that's all they know but there are those who prefer our system.

My guess is that your relatives are as stupid and misled as you are.  The fact is that, despite the myths you tried to feed us the last time this came up, more than 80% of Canadians approve of their health care system.

[me]

My guess is that your relatives are as stupid and misled as you are.  The fact is that, despite the myths you tried to feed us the last time this came up, more than 80% of Canadians approve of their health care system.

Did you talk to them yourself or just read that? My relatives are speaking from actually experiencing the health care and being citizens of Canada and living there for a number of years.

[Locutus]

And here I thought purple lady was the queen of anecdotal evidence. 

[Exterminator]

Did you talk to them yourself or just read that?

There are plenty of surveys available that back this up.  Do you ever actually look anything up before you start running your jib?

My relatives are speaking from actually experiencing the health care and being citizens of Canada and living there for a number of years.

Their experience is not commensurate with an overwhelming majority of the population.  Maybe the problem was with them rather than with the system?