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Started by Palehorse, February 14, 2017, 09:37:06 PM

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Quote from: Exterminator on March 02, 2017, 01:04:55 PM
Actually, no since there will be so many baby boomers all retiring at about the same time, there will not be enough people paying into the system to cover them all.  Had you been paying attention to the looming crisis over Social Security and Medicare, you would already know these things.

Uh, yeah, they aren't because they aren't eligible but I do applaud you for not only illustrating your ignorance but your racism as well, all within the same sentence!  Bravo!  I think you'll find, if you were at all willing to do any research, that most illegals here use other people's social security numbers so not only can they not collect the imaginary benefits you mention, they're actually paying into accounts that legal residents get credit for.
So you're telling me they aren't getting free medical care, food stamps, and housing at a discounted rate or free?
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Henry Hawk

Quote from: me on March 02, 2017, 01:36:59 PM
So you're telling me they aren't getting free medical care, food stamps, and housing at a discounted rate or free?
Me, I will share with you,.....Illegal immigrants have and do receive grants, loans, disability, public housing, college educations, food stamps, WIC, unemployment benefits, and tax credits from state and federal agencies....this isn't a mystery...some people on here like to pretend they know more than everyone, but this is a fact.  It cannot be disputed.

My whole problem is this.......the term..."Illegal".  Nearly every civilized nation on this earth has laws regarding immigration.  If you do not follow the rules set up by these nations, you are required to leave.  But, liberals seem to think it is okay.  The only logical explanation would be they WANT their vote.  Common knowledge says you don't bite the hands that feed you........so??

While I am on it, the Trump admin, is ONLY targeting "illegals" that have committed felonies.  But, the fake news is telling us that they are sending Nanny's and housekeepers away by the truck loads.

Btw, Obama sent nearly 400,000 in 2013 and you didn't see ONE riot or protest. NOT ONE news agency had much to say...........it is all POLITICAL THEATER!!



"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."
Ecclesiastes 10:2 - It all makes sense to me now...


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Exterminator

Quote from: me on March 02, 2017, 01:36:59 PM
So you're telling me they aren't getting free medical care, food stamps, and housing at a discounted rate or free?

The 1996 Personal Responsibility and Work Opportunity Reconciliation Act, that provides assistance with cash, food, housing and health care bars unauthorized immigrants from drawing benefits.  We do provide schooling for their children but most of them work and pay taxes so that's pretty much a wash.

Are there any subjects about which you aren't completely ignorant?
Arguing with Christians is like playing chess with a pigeon.  No matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock over the pieces, shit on the board and strut around like it's victorious.

The truth is slow, but relentless. Over time it becomes irresistible.

Locutus

So far we have:

1. FICA
2. Immigration
3. Grape Growing in England
4. The Farm Bill
5. Sand Monument to Obama at the DNC in Charlotte.

:rotfl:

..and those are just a few that I can remember. 

One of the gravest dangers to the survival of our republic is an ignorant electorate routinely feeding at the trough of propaganda.   -- Locutus

"We are all connected; To each other, biologically. To the earth, chemically. To the rest of the universe atomically."  -- Dr. Neil deGrasse Tyson

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Quote from: Exterminator on March 02, 2017, 01:55:09 PM
The 1996 Personal Responsibility and Work Opportunity Reconciliation Act, that provides assistance with cash, food, housing and health care bars unauthorized immigrants from drawing benefits.  We do provide schooling for their children but most of them work and pay taxes so that's pretty much a wash.

Are there any subjects about which you aren't completely ignorant?
So how are these thousands of illegals coming now making it if we're not helping them?
Trump 2020

me

Quote from: Locutus on March 02, 2017, 02:26:37 PM
So far we have:

1. FICA
2. Immigration
3. Grape Growing in England
4. The Farm Bill ????
5. Sand Monument to Obama at the DNC in Charlotte. ?????

:rotfl:

..and those are just a few that I can remember.
Trump 2020

Locutus

Quote from: me on March 02, 2017, 02:29:16 PM

So far we have:

1. FICA
2. Immigration
3. Grape Growing in England
4. The Farm Bill ????
5. Sand Monument to Obama at the DNC in Charlotte. ?????

:rotfl:

..and those are just a few that I can remember.


You claimed that the Republicans had passed a Farm Bill when, in fact, they had not. 
One of the gravest dangers to the survival of our republic is an ignorant electorate routinely feeding at the trough of propaganda.   -- Locutus

"We are all connected; To each other, biologically. To the earth, chemically. To the rest of the universe atomically."  -- Dr. Neil deGrasse Tyson

Exterminator

Quote from: me on March 02, 2017, 02:28:00 PM
So how are these thousands of illegals coming now making it if we're not helping them?

They work?
Arguing with Christians is like playing chess with a pigeon.  No matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock over the pieces, shit on the board and strut around like it's victorious.

The truth is slow, but relentless. Over time it becomes irresistible.

me

Quote from: Exterminator on March 03, 2017, 09:10:06 AM
They work?
You're telling me those who cross the border illegally get jobs immediatly even though there may be hundreds at a time? You really need to go buy some property in one of the border towns in Texas and see what that's really all about.
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Exterminator

Quote from: me on March 03, 2017, 10:52:22 AM
You're telling me those who cross the border illegally get jobs immediatly even though there may be hundreds at a time?

That's exactly what I'm telling you.  There are networks of these people and they know which farms have crops that are due to be picked and when.

QuoteYou really need to go buy some property in one of the border towns in Texas and see what that's really all about.

What makes you think most of the people coming across the border end up in Texas?  What's there that they want as opposed to somewhere like California where there's migrant farm work to be had?  And have you ever owned property in one of the border towns in Texas and if not how would you know what it's really all about?
Arguing with Christians is like playing chess with a pigeon.  No matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock over the pieces, shit on the board and strut around like it's victorious.

The truth is slow, but relentless. Over time it becomes irresistible.

Exterminator

Look, it's already been proven to you that there is a federal law on the books that bars illegal immigrants from collecting the benefits you are trying to say they all come here to get.  Why not just admit that you have no idea what you're talking about and STFU already?
Arguing with Christians is like playing chess with a pigeon.  No matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock over the pieces, shit on the board and strut around like it's victorious.

The truth is slow, but relentless. Over time it becomes irresistible.

me

Quote from: Exterminator on March 03, 2017, 11:21:23 AM
That's exactly what I'm telling you.  There are networks of these people and they know which farms have crops that are due to be picked and when.

What makes you think most of the people coming across the border end up in Texas?  What's there that they want as opposed to somewhere like California where there's migrant farm work to be had?  And have you ever owned property in one of the border towns in Texas and if not how would you know what it's really all about?
I say Texas 'cause you'd get a big dose of reality handed to you in one of those smaller border towns or out in the middle of nowhere on one of the ranches.
Trump 2020

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Oh, c'mon!

You're just repeating blather you've gotten from Fux, BiteBat, and Alex Jones.

You're not kidding anybody.   :razz:

:biggrin:
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Law of Logical Argument - Anything is possible if you don't know what you are talking about.  ;)

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In other words: Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups.  ;)

"It is difficult to get a man to understand something when his salary depends upon his not understanding it." -- Upton Sinclair

"Hitler is gone, but if the majority of our fellow citizens are more susceptible to the slogans of fear and race hatred than to those of peaceful accommodation and mutual respect among human beings, our political liberties remain at the mercy of any eloquent and unscrupulous demagogue." -- S. I. Hayakawa

Exterminator

She has probably never even been to Texas...and I've actually crossed the border there...more than once.
Arguing with Christians is like playing chess with a pigeon.  No matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock over the pieces, shit on the board and strut around like it's victorious.

The truth is slow, but relentless. Over time it becomes irresistible.

Y

I'm just aghast that the Repugs are continually against national health care.

What advanced society wouldn't consider that as a necessary, and integral, part of taking care of the citizenry?
©  Whamma-Jamma - all rights reserved

Law of Logical Argument - Anything is possible if you don't know what you are talking about.  ;)

"You've probably noticed that opinion pollsters go out of their way to include as many morons as possible in surveys ... I think it's dangerous to inform morons about what their fellow morons are thinking. It only reinforces their opinions. And the one thing worse than a moron with an opinion is lots of them." -- Scott Adams

In other words: Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups.  ;)

"It is difficult to get a man to understand something when his salary depends upon his not understanding it." -- Upton Sinclair

"Hitler is gone, but if the majority of our fellow citizens are more susceptible to the slogans of fear and race hatred than to those of peaceful accommodation and mutual respect among human beings, our political liberties remain at the mercy of any eloquent and unscrupulous demagogue." -- S. I. Hayakawa