News:

The Unknown Zone ℠ © 2001-2026 D.N.P. All rights reserved on all parts of this Internet Publication which consists of graphic images and text documents.  No part of this Internet Publication may be reproduced or stored in a retrieval system or transmitted in any form or by any means electronic, mechanical, photocopying, recording, or otherwise, without permission.

Main Menu

Why don't politicians actually do something about gun deaths?

Started by DC3Cowboy, July 21, 2016, 09:52:32 AM

Previous topic - Next topic

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

DC3Cowboy

Quote from: Y on July 28, 2016, 08:52:30 PM
And here's something else that shows the inanity of your argument/position.

You give statistics, and make the claim, that under most situations the populace doesn't need to worry about 'gun violence'.

Then you make the claim (unsubstantiated by fact) the 'libs' are 'coming to get everyone's guns' which has at its basis the assumptions that living in America IS dangerous, AND that you NEED your guns for protection in this 'dangerous' America'

You DO see the absurdity of such an argument, don't you?

Yes, which is why I never made such a stupid argument. Those are your words, not mine. Do you really have to be such a typical liberal ass?

Y

Quote from: Henry Hawk on July 22, 2016, 11:16:33 AM
Quote from: DC3Cowboy on July 22, 2016, 10:29:40 AM
Heather Mac Donald is the Thomas W. Smith Fellow at the Manhattan Institute and a contributing editor of City Journal. She is a recipient of the 2005 Bradley Prize:


https://imprimis.hillsdale.edu/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Imprimis_April16.pdf

This is exactly what I have trying to relay on here for quite some time, but since it makes sense and goes against the liberal agenda, I'm a racist.

No, your views are racist not because of some imagined 'liberal agenda' but because they are demeaning, discriminatory, and anti persons of color.

MacDonald is a closeted racist and 'conservative' (read racist) RW apologist.

Her adapted article in Imprimis - which I receive from Hillsdale and read - is simply racist apologetics and attacks and founded on faulty premise.

That the cowgirl would use it - and that you would agree with it - doesn't surprise me at all.

PS: don't either of you cry about the use of 'cowgirl' as it is apropo.  You can't be such a girly to claim America is SO dangerous that you need guns to protect yourself and then claim America doesn't need to worry about gun violence all while presenting yourself as a 'cowboy' without placing yourself firmly in the 'sissy' - hence 'cowgirl' - category.   :biggrin:
©  Whamma-Jamma - all rights reserved

Law of Logical Argument - Anything is possible if you don't know what you are talking about.  ;)

"You've probably noticed that opinion pollsters go out of their way to include as many morons as possible in surveys ... I think it's dangerous to inform morons about what their fellow morons are thinking. It only reinforces their opinions. And the one thing worse than a moron with an opinion is lots of them." -- Scott Adams

In other words: Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups.  ;)

"It is difficult to get a man to understand something when his salary depends upon his not understanding it." -- Upton Sinclair

"Hitler is gone, but if the majority of our fellow citizens are more susceptible to the slogans of fear and race hatred than to those of peaceful accommodation and mutual respect among human beings, our political liberties remain at the mercy of any eloquent and unscrupulous demagogue." -- S. I. Hayakawa

Y

Quote from: DC3Cowboy on July 28, 2016, 09:29:01 PM
Typical progressive liberal response which is to divert, deflect, deny, and dismiss. That means you have absolutely no intention of actually addressing the topic, which is why our political classes (and you) refuse to address the real gun death problem, which is suicides and minority crime.

I see you're not addressing anything, cowgirl.   :biggrin:

You don't appear to have any argument, or skills. 

Anyway, what about that Second Amendment argument?

Since you can't defend your original flawed mish-mash.   :biggrin:
©  Whamma-Jamma - all rights reserved

Law of Logical Argument - Anything is possible if you don't know what you are talking about.  ;)

"You've probably noticed that opinion pollsters go out of their way to include as many morons as possible in surveys ... I think it's dangerous to inform morons about what their fellow morons are thinking. It only reinforces their opinions. And the one thing worse than a moron with an opinion is lots of them." -- Scott Adams

In other words: Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups.  ;)

"It is difficult to get a man to understand something when his salary depends upon his not understanding it." -- Upton Sinclair

"Hitler is gone, but if the majority of our fellow citizens are more susceptible to the slogans of fear and race hatred than to those of peaceful accommodation and mutual respect among human beings, our political liberties remain at the mercy of any eloquent and unscrupulous demagogue." -- S. I. Hayakawa

Y

Quote from: DC3Cowboy on July 28, 2016, 09:31:00 PM
Yes, which is why I never made such a stupid argument. Those are your words, not mine. Do you really have to be such a typical liberal ass?

LOL!

Another typical RW trait, lying.   :wink:

Quote from: DC3Cowboy on July 21, 2016, 09:52:32 AM
The fact is, if you're not suicidal, not a criminal, not a brave police officer, not an inner city gang member, and stay out of those bad neighborhoods, your chance of being shot in the US is near zero! There is no gun crisis in America.

Quote from: DC3Cowboy on July 21, 2016, 09:52:32 AM
Because they want to disarm us and do away with the Second Amendment, so they need those statistics in order to justify it. After all, if they stopped 90+% of all gun deaths, there'd be no issue and no excuse to disarm Americans, would there?

The real question then, is why they want to disarm We, the People? What do they have in mind?

So, oh, but you did.   :wink:

<snicker>
©  Whamma-Jamma - all rights reserved

Law of Logical Argument - Anything is possible if you don't know what you are talking about.  ;)

"You've probably noticed that opinion pollsters go out of their way to include as many morons as possible in surveys ... I think it's dangerous to inform morons about what their fellow morons are thinking. It only reinforces their opinions. And the one thing worse than a moron with an opinion is lots of them." -- Scott Adams

In other words: Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups.  ;)

"It is difficult to get a man to understand something when his salary depends upon his not understanding it." -- Upton Sinclair

"Hitler is gone, but if the majority of our fellow citizens are more susceptible to the slogans of fear and race hatred than to those of peaceful accommodation and mutual respect among human beings, our political liberties remain at the mercy of any eloquent and unscrupulous demagogue." -- S. I. Hayakawa


Locutus

"I'm not here to repeal the 2nd amendment; I'm not here to take away your guns; I just don't want you to be shot by someone who shouldn't have a gun in the first place." -- Hillary Clinton
One of the gravest dangers to the survival of our republic is an ignorant electorate routinely feeding at the trough of propaganda.   -- Locutus

"We are all connected; To each other, biologically. To the earth, chemically. To the rest of the universe atomically."  -- Dr. Neil deGrasse Tyson

AbbyTC

Quote from: DC3Cowboy on July 21, 2016, 09:52:32 AM

The real question then, is why they want to disarm We, the People? What do they have in mind?

Doesn't sound like they want to disarm We, the People. 

Quote from: Locutus on July 28, 2016, 11:22:08 PM
"I'm not here to repeal the 2nd amendment; I'm not here to take your guns; I'm here to make sure you don't get shot by someone who shouldn't have a gun in the first place." -- Hillary Clinton

Seems pretty clear to me.
In three words I can sum up everything I've learned about life: it goes on. Robert Frost

Perhaps the butterfly is proof that you can go through a great deal of darkness yet become something beautiful.

Locutus

Quote from: AbbyTC on July 28, 2016, 11:26:23 PM
Doesn't sound like they want to disarm We, the People. 

Seems pretty clear to me.

It is to sensible people. 
One of the gravest dangers to the survival of our republic is an ignorant electorate routinely feeding at the trough of propaganda.   -- Locutus

"We are all connected; To each other, biologically. To the earth, chemically. To the rest of the universe atomically."  -- Dr. Neil deGrasse Tyson

Y

Well, I guess I'm going to have to wait until the next time I drop in to see if the cowgirl makes himself a useful RW idjit - instead of a useless one.

Hell, maybe ole' Hank can help him...

...NOT!   :razz:

:biggrin:
©  Whamma-Jamma - all rights reserved

Law of Logical Argument - Anything is possible if you don't know what you are talking about.  ;)

"You've probably noticed that opinion pollsters go out of their way to include as many morons as possible in surveys ... I think it's dangerous to inform morons about what their fellow morons are thinking. It only reinforces their opinions. And the one thing worse than a moron with an opinion is lots of them." -- Scott Adams

In other words: Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups.  ;)

"It is difficult to get a man to understand something when his salary depends upon his not understanding it." -- Upton Sinclair

"Hitler is gone, but if the majority of our fellow citizens are more susceptible to the slogans of fear and race hatred than to those of peaceful accommodation and mutual respect among human beings, our political liberties remain at the mercy of any eloquent and unscrupulous demagogue." -- S. I. Hayakawa

AbbyTC

In three words I can sum up everything I've learned about life: it goes on. Robert Frost

Perhaps the butterfly is proof that you can go through a great deal of darkness yet become something beautiful.

Locutus

Quote from: Y on July 28, 2016, 11:28:58 PM
Well, I guess I'm going to have to wait until the next time I drop in to see if the cowgirl makes himself a useful RW idjit - instead of a useless one.

Hell, maybe ole' Hank can help him...

...NOT!   :razz:

:biggrin:

:biggrin:
One of the gravest dangers to the survival of our republic is an ignorant electorate routinely feeding at the trough of propaganda.   -- Locutus

"We are all connected; To each other, biologically. To the earth, chemically. To the rest of the universe atomically."  -- Dr. Neil deGrasse Tyson

DC3Cowboy

It's now obvious that if you're looking for a civil discussion with adults, you won't find it here. Sneers, jeers, juvenile 'cowgirl' nic-twisting, and the obvious progressive-liberal circle-jerk has convinced me, so have a great time and goodbye.

me

Quote from: DC3Cowboy on July 29, 2016, 12:58:49 PM
It's now obvious that if you're looking for a civil discussion with adults, you won't find it here. Sneers, jeers, juvenile 'cowgirl' nic-twisting, and the obvious progressive-liberal circle-jerk has convinced me, so have a great time and goodbye.
It is fun, most of the time, to see them make fools of themselves when they can't come up with a valid argument and see them resort to name calling and childish behaviour.
Trump 2020

Locutus

Quote from: DC3Cowboy on July 29, 2016, 12:58:49 PM
It's now obvious that if you're looking for a civil discussion with adults, you won't find it here. Sneers, jeers, juvenile 'cowgirl' nic-twisting, and the obvious progressive-liberal circle-jerk has convinced me, so have a great time and goodbye.

This isn't a progresive-liberal circle jerk.  There are at least 2 that tip to the conservative side around here.

You came in and made an unsubstantiated claim in your very first post.  It was pointed out to you a couple of times.  Unfortunately, you then met Y who is an absolute expert at holding ones feet to the fire when making unsubstantiated claims.

I invite you to stick around.  You're just going to have to have your facts in order.

One of the gravest dangers to the survival of our republic is an ignorant electorate routinely feeding at the trough of propaganda.   -- Locutus

"We are all connected; To each other, biologically. To the earth, chemically. To the rest of the universe atomically."  -- Dr. Neil deGrasse Tyson

The Troll

Quote from: DC3Cowboy on July 29, 2016, 12:58:49 PM
It's now obvious that if you're looking for a civil discussion with adults, you won't find it here. Sneers, jeers, juvenile 'cowgirl' nic-twisting, and the obvious progressive-liberal circle-jerk has convinced me, so have a great time and goodbye.

  You're just a thin skinned Republican who is just a big cry baby.  :cry:  :cry:  :cry:  :cry:  Bye bye cry baby.  :cry:  :haha:  :haha:  Now go vote for Trump, Dumbass.  :finger2: