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  Sometimes there are no words ....

I've come to expect no less.   

You can't fix stupid.

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Two of the Corporate Gods you kneel to agreed. They resigned from Trumps committee .

It's 3 now...

[Henry Hawk]

Libby, I too am without words!! I am honestly stunned by the actions of the progressive crowd these days........the kool-aid drinking is at an all-time high.  It comes down to this.


Those who hate Trump...Hate Trump.


Those who supported Trump....Support Trump.


It wouldn't matter if Trump found a cure for cancer.........the "Haters" will find something to find fault with his findings.  THAT I AM 100% CERTAIN OF.


PH, it did not take "days" for him to say what YOU wanted to hear.  It took a DAY.


The words he muttered immediately following the incident were correct.  He, unlike Obama, waited to hear ALL of the FACTS before he spoke.


If you remember correctly, Obama was blowing off after Trayvon, Ferguson, the Cambridge Police Dept incident....in EACH case, he was proven wrong, yet he DID INDEED incite violence by his ability to NOT to get it right.  He even sent the DOJ to Michael Browns funeral......only to later find out that he was a THUG, who attacked a Cop.


Honestly, I have never seen hypocrisy this rampart........EVER!


I will stand my ground with pride, that Trump is by FAR the best pick available in this last election, and given time, will make our economy the best we have ever seen in our lifetime. 

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Those who supported wanted to suck Trump's dick....Supportstill want to suck Trump's dick.

Fixed this for you.

That you seriously can't see the differences in the parallels you attempt to draw is astounding.  Tell us all again how you aren't a bigot...we love that story.   

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If You Voted for Him by John Pavlovitz

If you voted for him, I really need you to hear something right now:

I believe you.

I believe you when you say that you're not a racist.
I believe you when you say that you're not a bigot.
I believe you when you say you're not homophobic.
I believe you when you say you're not a misogynist.
I believe you when you say you're not an Islamophobe.
I believe you when you say you're not an anti-Semite.
I believe you when you say that you don't condone violence and discrimination and bullying.

But I won't keep believing you if you remain silent.

I know you had legitimate reasons for voting for him; things that either real or imagined, genuinely moved you to your decision and that you wrestled with these reasons greatly. But I don't care about those reasons; not because I don't care about you or value you or want to understand you or because I don't respect your road, but because those reasons can't help those who are hurting or threatened right now—only your response can.

You see, regardless of why you voted for him, you did vote for him. Your affirmation of him and your elevation of him to this position, came with what you knew about him:

It came after hearing the horrible, degrading, vile things he said about women.
It came after hearing him encourage his supporters to be violent with protestors.
It came after he advocated for Muslims to be expelled and profiled.
It came after he made fun of a man with physical disability.
It came after he framed the BlackLivesMatter movement as criminal and subversive.
It came after he personally criticized the appearance and weight and sexual activity of women opponents.
It came after he chose a Vice President who believes gay people can pray away their gayness.
It came after the KKK and the neo-Nazis endorsed him.

These were all things you had to weigh to cast your vote, and by whatever method you used, you declared theses things within your morally acceptable parameters. You deemed these part of the "lesser of two evils". In voting your conscience—these things made the cut.

And so the whys of your vote matter less now than the who of your vote. That person is here, and everything happening now is the reality you and I need to deal with together. Both of our intentions have to yield to the moment we stand in together.

And I need you speak now. If the acts of violence toward people of color and the harassment of the Muslim community and the anti-Semitic graffiti and the misogynistic assaults on women make you sick; if they are not your heart, if they are not acceptable, if they are not who you are—say so.

And if the appointment of a chief advisor to the President who has shown blatant, explicit, incendiary hatred for people of color and Jewish people and the Muslim community, is not what you consented to with your vote, you need to say that too.

I want to believe that you do value equality and diversity and in the inherent value of every person as much as I do. I want to believe that people are precious to you, no matter their color or gender or faith tradition or sexual orientation. But if you refuse to speak into the events of these days, if you choose to stay silent, whether out of fear or shame or buyer's remorse or ambivalence—I will have no choice but to believe that you are okay with all of this.

And here's the thing, friend: If you were to say that you are not okay with all of this, if you were to stand up to the bigots and the racists and the misogynists and the homophobes and the anti-Semites and the xenophobes—you will find that I will stand with you. I will live and work and worship alongside you, and you will find me a willing, available, and caring partner in the crafting of the future of this country. I promise you.

I will not hold your vote against you, because I trust that you arrived at that vote as carefully, prayerfully, and seriously as I did mine.

But make no mistake, I will hold your silence now against you.
I will hold your inaction against you.
I will hold your refusal to see the pain of those your vote has at least in some part, initiated against you.
I will hold your lack of compassion for the marginalized against you.


So yes, I believe you are not the horrible things I am seeing from the hateful, vicious, intolerant few from the fringes, but that belief comes with the expectation that I will hear you now; that you will shout to the fringes that this is not what you meant by making America great.
It comes with the expectation that you will tell the President and your elected officials and your pastors, that these things do not have a place in the country you desire.
It comes with the expectation that you speak now to the marginalized, and that you reiterate their worth, hear their grief, validate their fear, and that you come to their defense in both word and in tangible support.

Friend, you may feel like you are being attacked these days, but you're not. You're being challenged to be the person you tell us you are.

If you voted for him I do not believe that automatically makes you the enemy.

Only your silence in the face of this hatred can do that.

Please speak, so I can know you.

[Palehorse]

.  .  .


PH, it did not take "days" for him to say what YOU wanted to hear.  It took a DAY.  .  .

The event transpired on Saturday. . .

He did not make the denouncement until Monday. . .

His own daughter denounced the hate groups within 24 hours. 24 hours.

It took the Raging Cheeto much longer than that. . . And the resignations of members of his manufacturing council. . . Who he is now trying to bully via social media for standing up for what is morally and socially right.

This is a prime example of his self centered narcissistic methodologies.☠️

[Palehorse]

It's 3 now...

Now 4.  .  .

[Henry Hawk]

If you remember correctly, Obama was blowing off after Trayvon, Ferguson, the Cambridge Police Dept incident....in EACH case, he was proven wrong, yet he DID INDEED incite violence by his ability to NOT to get it right.  He even sent the DOJ to Michael Browns funeral......only to later find out that he was a THUG, who attacked a Cop.

i noticed this is being brushed over.....it is the same "type" of crap that you are pissed at Trump at.

Trump, actually WAITED until he got FACTS before he said the driver was a white supremacist....HE DID, make it quite clear that HE condemns in the strongest possible terms this egregious display of hatred, bigotry and violence on many sides....because there was violence from both sides......

When he got EXACTLY what happened.....he denounced the KKK and all of those groups.  Do you honestly believe he has any reason to support them?  Do you think people like myself wouldn't be outraged if he DID? c'mon!

Do you think that group that came to protest against the KKK was there to be peaceful?  Both sides SUCK!  There is NO ROOM for violence, what-so-ever!  No mater how much you disagree with anyone, we have the First Amendment!!

If the protesters would have not went to that BULLSHIT KKK or whoever it was.........none of this would have made the news.  They bought into it, and BAM! It's news.

Trump didn't start this in any, way, shape or form.  If he would have personally SHOT the kid that drove his car in the crowd........the left would have bitched about that!

He cannot ever win with those who voted against him...............your minds are made up.

I still say, if the democrats would not have been so arrogant and put nearly anyone else in there but Hillary, we wouldn't be talking about Trump right now.

To me, it appears as if the bullies lost, and they don't know how to deal with it, so they are going to pout, cry and whine until they can figure out a way to over throw our current government ..... instead of merely going to the polls and voting in a person that do what they want, by the books.

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i noticed this is being brushed over.....it is the same "type" of crap that you are pissed at Trump at.

Obama isn't the president any more but he did speak on each of these issues.  He just didn't say what you wanted to hear.

Trump, actually WAITED until he got FACTS before he said the driver was a white supremacist...

Are you seriously suggesting that the impetuous man-child doesn't routinely spout off about virtually everything before he knows the facts?  Give us a break!  Aside from that, he isn't being criticized for not speaking out against the person driving the car; he's being criticized for not speaking out against white supremacists carrying torches and nazi flags...nazi fucking flags!  When he was asked directly by a reporter if he would denounce these groups, he refused to do so, walking away from the podium instead.

Do you think that group that came to protest against the KKK was there to be peaceful?  Both sides SUCK!  There is NO ROOM for violence, what-so-ever!  No mater how much you disagree with anyone, we have the First Amendment!!

If the protesters would have not went to that BULLSHIT KKK or whoever it was.........none of this would have made the news.  They bought into it, and BAM! It's news.

So it's our fault that over 400,000 of our service members died in WWII because we should have just stayed home and minded our own business?  I guess Major Davis was right in your mind when he said it was police officer Perry Renn's fault he was killed because he should have stayed in his car, huh?

Here's a clue for you: sometimes it is necessary to resort to violence to combat evil.  If you don't stand against people like these, you're one of them, plain and simple.

Trump didn't start this in any, way, shape or form.

Bullshit!

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I heard crickets by Obama about healing when Ferguson riots broke out, rather more of an attitude that spurred it!
Same during Trayvon Martin, the Dallas cop killing, and several other incidents.

If you remember correctly, Obama was blowing off after Trayvon, Ferguson, the Cambridge Police Dept incident....in EACH case, he was proven wrong, yet he DID INDEED incite violence by his ability to NOT to get it right.  He even sent the DOJ to Michael Browns funeral......only to later find out that he was a THUG, who attacked a Cop.

Read the two quotes above and then listen watch this video.  Pay special attention to what the guy says starting at about the 2:40 mark.

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Read the two quotes above and then listen watch this video.  Pay special attention to what the guy says starting at about the 2:40 mark.

He memorized his script well however I can't say the delivery was beliveable if that was supposed to be an interview off the cuff.

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He memorized his script well however I can't say the delivery was beliveable if that was supposed to be an interview off the cuff.

I'm sure he's been spewing the same racist rhetoric for so long it comes to him easily at this point.

If you're suggesting this is a "leftist" plant who was there to make the poor, nazi flag carrying, peaceful protesters look bad, you're an idiot.  They give his name and it took like literally 30 seconds for me to establish that he's exactly who he says he is.

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I'm sure he's been spewing the same racist rhetoric for so long it comes to him easily at this point.

If you're suggesting this is a "leftist" plant who was there to make the poor, nazi flag carrying, peaceful protesters look bad, you're an idiot.  They give his name and it took like literally 30 seconds for me to establish that he's exactly who he says he is.

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What?

It blows me away that you two are essentially defending people who are carrying nazi flags on U.S. soil.

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What?

It blows me away that you two are essentially defending people who are carrying nazi flags on U.S. soil.

It isn't the right who's trying to shut the opposition down and erase/change history, or take down statues.