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The Troll

#915
December 21, 2016, 02:37:42 PM
Quote from: Locutus on December 21, 2016, 02:21:24 PM
How did a foreign power attempt to intervene in the election in 2008?

  Fuck, he don't know.   :rolleyes:  He's talking out of his ass as usual.   :yes:  If he had a brain, it would be the size of a walnut and just as hard.  :smash:  :haha:  Ole Sphincter Bird Henry.   :flap:

Henry Hawk

#916
December 21, 2016, 02:45:48 PM
Quote from: Locutus on December 21, 2016, 12:55:09 PM
And yes, given Hamilton's own words, this statement still holds:

Quote from: Locutus on December 21, 2016, 12:52:36 PM
That article is myopic Hank.

He's describing one of the purposes of the Electoral College while flat out lying about the other.  The other purpose, as intended by the founders, is exactly what I described to you.  The founders, as Hamilton duly stated, intended the electoral college to be a deliberative body in the manner that I described in my post.  They had a clear fear that a charismatic tyrant could manipulate public opinion and come into power.   Alexander Hamilton described these concerns in the Federalist Papers.

Do you believe the guy who wrote the above, or the words of Alexander Hamilton himself?  :rolleyes:

You should take the time to do some reading outside of your comfort zone.  You may learn something someday.  :wink:





Listen and quit being pompous...I have read plenty and fully understand.  Hamilton WANTED electors in place to assure a quality POTUS was elected.......and that is exactly what happened.  The electors CAST their electoral votes for Trump...with 304 votes...you just didn't get your way so you are dreaming up errors and mishaps and whatever...

Our forefathers did NOT want a majority MOB rule...the electoral college works.......it keeps a mob rule majority like California from deciding who wins the election.....this was smaller states have a voice.....if California was NOT included, Trump wins the popular vote by over a million.

We are the UNITED STATES of AMERICA.......NOT Amerika.
"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."
Ecclesiastes 10:2 - It all makes sense to me now...


"The future ain't what it used to be."– Yogi Berra

"Square roots are rarely found on any plant." FTW

Henry Hawk

#917
December 21, 2016, 02:47:08 PM
Quote from: Locutus on December 21, 2016, 02:21:24 PM
How did a foreign power attempt to intervene in the election in 2008?
How did they attempt to intervene in the election in 2016? They didn't...and there is NO proof that they did.
"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."
Ecclesiastes 10:2 - It all makes sense to me now...


"The future ain't what it used to be."– Yogi Berra

"Square roots are rarely found on any plant." FTW

Locutus

#918
December 21, 2016, 03:36:07 PM
Quote from: Henry Hawk on December 21, 2016, 02:47:08 PM
How did they attempt to intervene in the election in 2016? They didn't...and there is NO proof that they did.

So you, like 'me', know more than the intelligence community?  :rolleyes:
One of the gravest dangers to the survival of our republic is an ignorant electorate routinely feeding at the trough of propaganda.   -- Locutus

"We are all connected; To each other, biologically. To the earth, chemically. To the rest of the universe atomically."  -- Dr. Neil deGrasse Tyson

Locutus

#919
December 21, 2016, 03:39:43 PM
Quote from: Henry Hawk on December 21, 2016, 02:45:48 PM
Listen and quit being pompous...I have read plenty and fully understand.  Hamilton WANTED electors in place to assure a quality POTUS was elected.......and that is exactly what happened.  The electors CAST their electoral votes for Trump...with 304 votes...you just didn't get your way so you are dreaming up errors and mishaps and whatever...

Our forefathers did NOT want a majority MOB rule...the electoral college works.......it keeps a mob rule majority like California from deciding who wins the election.....this was smaller states have a voice.....if California was NOT included, Trump wins the popular vote by over a million.

We are the UNITED STATES of AMERICA.......NOT Amerika.

Do you think the electoral college functions today in the same manner as it was intended by the founders?  That being a deliberative body?  I certainly don't think that it is.

BTW, nothing that I've stated here should be taken as my advocating for the abolishment of the electoral college. 
One of the gravest dangers to the survival of our republic is an ignorant electorate routinely feeding at the trough of propaganda.   -- Locutus

"We are all connected; To each other, biologically. To the earth, chemically. To the rest of the universe atomically."  -- Dr. Neil deGrasse Tyson

me

#920
December 21, 2016, 04:07:15 PM
Trump 2020

Henry Hawk

#921
December 21, 2016, 04:20:22 PM
Quote from: Locutus on December 21, 2016, 03:39:43 PM
Do you think the electoral college functions today in the same manner as it was intended by the founders? 
To some degree, YES!  It still serves to give each state a voice in the presidential election...which was a major function by the founders...
"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."
Ecclesiastes 10:2 - It all makes sense to me now...


"The future ain't what it used to be."– Yogi Berra

"Square roots are rarely found on any plant." FTW

Locutus

#922
December 21, 2016, 04:30:29 PM
Quote from: Henry Hawk on December 21, 2016, 04:20:22 PM
To some degree, YES!  It still serves to give each state a voice in the presidential election...which was a major function by the founders...

How about as a deliberative body, if it were necessary?
One of the gravest dangers to the survival of our republic is an ignorant electorate routinely feeding at the trough of propaganda.   -- Locutus

"We are all connected; To each other, biologically. To the earth, chemically. To the rest of the universe atomically."  -- Dr. Neil deGrasse Tyson

The Troll

#923
December 21, 2016, 06:59:17 PM


  When someone can bet a :pigdance: by Three million votes and lose the race, there is something wrong, big time.   :rant:

Henry Hawk

#924
December 22, 2016, 07:59:54 AM
Quote from: Locutus on December 21, 2016, 04:30:29 PM
How about as a deliberative body, if it were necessary?
Give me an example........I think our forefathers feared any potential of Tyranny...and this IS playing with fire...IMO.
"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."
Ecclesiastes 10:2 - It all makes sense to me now...


"The future ain't what it used to be."– Yogi Berra

"Square roots are rarely found on any plant." FTW

Exterminator

#925
December 22, 2016, 10:21:27 AM
Quote from: me on December 18, 2016, 06:39:37 PM
Oh I'm soooo impressed....NOT!!!!

This from someone who accomplished nothing in life.  :rolleyes:
Arguing with Christians is like playing chess with a pigeon.  No matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock over the pieces, shit on the board and strut around like it's victorious.

The truth is slow, but relentless. Over time it becomes irresistible.

Exterminator

#926
December 22, 2016, 10:28:01 AM
Quote from: me on December 20, 2016, 12:04:23 PM
Why do libs have the idea that only they are well educated and smarter than anyone else?

Using this forum as a microcosm of society in general absolutely illustrates that fact.
Arguing with Christians is like playing chess with a pigeon.  No matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock over the pieces, shit on the board and strut around like it's victorious.

The truth is slow, but relentless. Over time it becomes irresistible.

Exterminator

#927
December 22, 2016, 10:31:52 AM
Quote from: Henry Hawk on December 21, 2016, 02:45:48 PM
I have read plenty and fully understand.

I'm calling bullshit.   :rolleyes:
Arguing with Christians is like playing chess with a pigeon.  No matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock over the pieces, shit on the board and strut around like it's victorious.

The truth is slow, but relentless. Over time it becomes irresistible.

Locutus

#928
December 22, 2016, 11:12:37 AM
Quote from: Henry Hawk on December 22, 2016, 07:59:54 AM
Give me an example........I think our forefathers feared any potential of Tyranny...and this IS playing with fire...IMO.

The founders absolutely did fear a tyrant.  That's stated pretty clearly by Hamilton's own words.  Why would that be playing with fire?
One of the gravest dangers to the survival of our republic is an ignorant electorate routinely feeding at the trough of propaganda.   -- Locutus

"We are all connected; To each other, biologically. To the earth, chemically. To the rest of the universe atomically."  -- Dr. Neil deGrasse Tyson

me

#929
December 22, 2016, 12:00:13 PM
Quote from: Exterminator on December 22, 2016, 10:21:27 AM
This from someone who accomplished nothing in life.  :rolleyes:
You have no clue what I've accomplished. I have no desire for the "high life" and am perfectly content with my low stress comfortable life. Fancy does not impress me in the least nor does money, that is not what life is all about.
Trump 2020
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