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San Bernardino mass shooting

Started by Locutus, December 02, 2015, 05:13:27 PM

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Purplelady1040

According to the news today, this couple had left a digital footprint so to speak and had been in touch with some questionable organizations. I would think if Big Brother is watching everyone like so many think that they could have done something sooner. Both families of this couple are surprised at what happened, especially since they left behind a 6 month old baby girl. I think like PH posted, these cells are patient and they are here.

Exterminator

Quote from: Bo D on December 04, 2015, 09:11:34 AM
I don't know ... I think this post is interesting in that it's absolutely insane ...

While I'll agree that most Jews are probably Hebrew (Israelites), I'd like to hear her explain black Jews or Japanese Jews if Jew is a race (while she foolishly admonishes everyone else for not being able to distinguish between a religion and a race).
Arguing with Christians is like playing chess with a pigeon.  No matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock over the pieces, shit on the board and strut around like it's victorious.

The truth is slow, but relentless. Over time it becomes irresistible.

Purplelady1040

Quote from: Exterminator on December 04, 2015, 10:29:06 AM
While I'll agree that most Jews are probably Hebrew (Israelites), I'd like to hear her explain black Jews or Japanese Jews if Jew is a race (while she foolishly admonishes everyone else for not being able to distinguish between a religion and a race).
That will be interesting for her to try and explain.

me

Quote from: Exterminator on December 04, 2015, 10:29:06 AM
While I'll agree that most Jews are probably Hebrew (Israelites), I'd like to hear her explain black Jews or Japanese Jews if Jew is a race (while she foolishly admonishes everyone else for not being able to distinguish between a religion and a race).
Exactly my point. You see the difference there? No one gets called racist for putting down a Jewish person because they, like you, know that's a religion. Muslims are also of different races so what's the deal with calling people racist for being against them? Jews aren't trying to kill us but Muslims are so why not be leery of anyone who is a Muslim? Those Muslims who did the shooting in Ca were nice people, or so everyone thought, but the neighbors were afraid to report the strange things going on at their house for fear of being accused of racial profiling.
Quote from: Purplelady1040 on December 04, 2015, 09:34:07 AM
A little.insanity is a good thing at times. Lol.
I find it amazing that people want to bash Muslims. There are several in our area and they are some of the hardest working people I know. Deeply religious to their religion but they aren't what I call fanatics.
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Exterminator

Quote from: me on December 04, 2015, 12:20:54 PM
Jews aren't trying to kill us but Muslims are so why not be leery of anyone who is a Muslim?

This is probably going to shock you but I agree.  Consider the analogy of the purple shirts: let's say you're walking through a crowd of people and someone wearing a purple shirt kicks you.  You continue through the crowd and are kicked again, also by someone wearing a purple shirt.  As you move further, you are kicked several more times, each one of them by someone wearing a purple shirt.  Now, there are lots of people wearing purple shirts who are not kicking you but everyone who has was wearing a purple shirt.  Wouldn't you start avoiding people with purple shirts at some point?
Arguing with Christians is like playing chess with a pigeon.  No matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock over the pieces, shit on the board and strut around like it's victorious.

The truth is slow, but relentless. Over time it becomes irresistible.

Purplelady1040

Quote from: me on December 04, 2015, 12:20:54 PM
Exactly my point. You see the difference there? No one gets called racist for putting down a Jewish person because they, like you, know that's a religion. Muslims are also of different races so what's the deal with calling people racist for being against them? Jews aren't trying to kill us but Muslims are so why not be leery of anyone who is a Muslim? Those Muslims who did the shooting in Ca were nice people, or so everyone thought, but the neighbors were afraid to report the strange things going on at their house for fear of being accused of racial profiling.
Muslim is a religion not a race

Henry Hawk

The FBI just declared it "terrorism"...Not workplace violence.
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Exterminator

Quote from: Henry Hawk on December 04, 2015, 02:47:38 PM
The FBI just declared it "terrorism"...Not workplace violence.

Of course they did and they're correct.  That notwithstanding, it's a pretty weak show of terrorism.  I would be ashamed if I went into a place with an assault rifle and a bunch of ammo and the best kill rate I could achieve is seven people.  That's pathetic!  One of the wounded co-workers was even a Muslim that prayed at the same Mosque as Farook!
Arguing with Christians is like playing chess with a pigeon.  No matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock over the pieces, shit on the board and strut around like it's victorious.

The truth is slow, but relentless. Over time it becomes irresistible.

Palehorse

R.I.P. - followsthewolf - You are MISSED! 4/17/2013

That which fails to kill me. . .should run!

Any "point" made by one that lacks credibility, is only as useful as toilet paper; and serves the same purpose. ~ Palehorse 4/22/2017

May you find charity when it is needed, and the ability to extend it when it is not. ~Palehorse 7/4/2012

To the last, I grapple with thee; From Hell's heart, I stab at thee; For hate's sake, I spit my last breath at thee.~Herman Melville

Palehorse

Quote from: Palehorse on December 03, 2015, 07:37:56 PM
Your post exemplifies the ignorance that is feeding the racism this situation is driving. Exactly, what are "Muslim Ways"? (Can you say religious persecution?)
. . .


In case you forgot what that question was, I have quoted it above- - -^ (In bold)
R.I.P. - followsthewolf - You are MISSED! 4/17/2013

That which fails to kill me. . .should run!

Any "point" made by one that lacks credibility, is only as useful as toilet paper; and serves the same purpose. ~ Palehorse 4/22/2017

May you find charity when it is needed, and the ability to extend it when it is not. ~Palehorse 7/4/2012

To the last, I grapple with thee; From Hell's heart, I stab at thee; For hate's sake, I spit my last breath at thee.~Herman Melville

Palehorse

Quote from: me on December 04, 2015, 12:20:54 PM
Exactly my point. You see the difference there? No one gets called racist for putting down a Jewish person . . .

Anti-Semite?
R.I.P. - followsthewolf - You are MISSED! 4/17/2013

That which fails to kill me. . .should run!

Any "point" made by one that lacks credibility, is only as useful as toilet paper; and serves the same purpose. ~ Palehorse 4/22/2017

May you find charity when it is needed, and the ability to extend it when it is not. ~Palehorse 7/4/2012

To the last, I grapple with thee; From Hell's heart, I stab at thee; For hate's sake, I spit my last breath at thee.~Herman Melville

me

Quote from: Palehorse on December 03, 2015, 07:37:56 PM
Your post exemplifies the ignorance that is feeding the racism this situation is driving. Exactly, what are "Muslim Ways"? (Can you say religious persecution?)

Are you aware that their religious documents parallel old testament teachings of the christian bible? Moreover, they also believe in Jesus. . .

(Post 40000)
In the here and now you are allowed to be something other than a Christian without the fear of being blown up, having your head chopped off, or, if you're talking about what I think, being stoned. Now answer my question.
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Palehorse

Quote from: me on December 04, 2015, 05:53:00 PM
In the here and now you are allowed to be something other than a Christian without the fear of being blown up, having your head chopped off, or, if you're talking about what I think, being stoned. Now answer my question.

Before I can answer your question your answer to mine requires further clarification.

Is your answer (above) intended to imply that it is the "Muslim Way" to blow up, behead, or be stoned?
R.I.P. - followsthewolf - You are MISSED! 4/17/2013

That which fails to kill me. . .should run!

Any "point" made by one that lacks credibility, is only as useful as toilet paper; and serves the same purpose. ~ Palehorse 4/22/2017

May you find charity when it is needed, and the ability to extend it when it is not. ~Palehorse 7/4/2012

To the last, I grapple with thee; From Hell's heart, I stab at thee; For hate's sake, I spit my last breath at thee.~Herman Melville

Palehorse

Quote from: me on December 04, 2015, 05:53:00 PM
In the here and now you are allowed to be something other than a Christian without the fear of being blown up, having your head chopped off, or, if you're talking about what I think, being stoned. Now answer my question.

In the interest of saving our members time as we await your slothful response and evasiveness, for the purposes of my explanation I will assume that you are indeed implying that the above actions are implied when you state "Muslim Ways".

1. Your assumptions are false and ignorant in factuality, and serve no good cause other than to further the nefarious intentions of those who would have all human beings of the Muslim Faith segregated from society or killed on sight. Whether your perspective is based upon willful knowledge or ignorance matters not, for you are indeed spreading falsehoods intended to incite the peoples of the world toward genocide based upon religious persecution.

2. The hypocrisy of your actions/words also serves the very same purposes.

ISIS/ISIL consists of a group of individuals that have chosen to interpret the words within their own religious tome(s) literally; and to impose said interpretations and the prescribed remedies for same upon the world. This doesn't make it right, and this does not mean that in any way, shape, or form, I support what these religious zealots are doing. Let me make it perfectly clear to you; I DO NOT SUPPORT ISIS/ISIL AT ALL!

As I, (and others), have stated herein numerous times, ALL of you religious whack nuts are a clear and present danger to this planet. No exceptions. You have each bastardized the teachings of your multitude of faiths to serve your innate desire for wealth and power and have done so since the beginning of time.

What ISIS/ISIL is doing today is just another case of history repeating itself. As an example of this I submit the following:

Christianity's Old Testament Prescribed Punishments

The following transgressions are to be punished by death:

Having homosexual intercourse between men (Leviticus 18:22, Leviticus 20:13).

Committing adultery between a man and a woman (Leviticus 20:10-12, Deuteronomy 22:22).

Lying about virginity (Deuteronomy 22:20-21).

Being one of the majority of women that don't bleed when losing your virginity (Deuteronomy 22:20-21).

Being the daughter of a priest and practicing prostitution (Leviticus 21:9).

Being male and practicing bestiality (Leviticus 20:15).

Being female and practicing bestiality (Leviticus 20:16)

Having sex with your father's wife (Leviticus 20:20)

Having sex with your daughter-in-law (Leviticus 20:30)

Having incestual sex (Leviticus 20:17).

Having sex with a woman who is menstruating (Leviticus 20:18).

The following transgressions are to be punished by death via burning rather than stoning:

Consuming blood (Genesis 9:4, Leviticus 17:10).

Eating a cheeseburger or anything that mixes meat and dairy (Exodus 23:19).

Sacrificing anything with yeast or honey (Leviticus 2:11).

Eating fat (Leviticus 3:17).

Eating pork (Leviticus 11:7-8).

Waiting too long before consuming sacrifices (Leviticus 19:5-8).

Eating aquatic creatures lacking fins or scales (Deuteronomy 14:9-10).

Eating any meat not killed according to the Kosher practice (Deuteronomy 12:21).

Trying to convert people to another religion (Deuteronomy 13:1-11, Deuteronomy 18:20).

Practicing magic (Exodus 22:18).

Blaspheming (Leviticus 24:14-16, 23)

Consulting a psychic or spiritualist (Leviticus 19:31).

Being a psychic, medium or spiritualist (Leviticus 20:27)

Being a town that believes in another, non-YHWH god (Deuteronomy 13:12-15).

Being a false prophet (Deuteronomy 13:5, Deuteronomy 18:20, Zechariah 13:2-3)

Going to the temple in an unclean state (Numbers 19:13)

Performing any work on the Sabbath (Exodus 20:10)

Murdering a slave (Exodus 21:26-27)

Striking your parents (Exodus 21:15)

Cursing your parents (Exodus 21:17, Leviticus 20:9)

Being a stubborn, rebellious, profligate, and drunkard son (Deuteronomy 21:18-21)

Planting more than one kind of seed in a field (Leviticus 19:19)

Touching the dead carcass of a pig (Deuteronomy 14:8).

Speaking in church (1 Corinthians 14:34-35) – Women only.

Homosexual intercourse between women (Romans 1:27).

And there is a whole lot more than this, but I believe the above to be more than sufficient to support my position here.

Christianity is just as bad as Muslim Islamic religions, which are as bad as all others. You are each just as guilty of inflicting the very same murderous rampages upon humanity as ISIS/ISIL is today; all in the name of "God".

Your parables are plagiarized from the religious texts of one another, and interpretations of said religious tomes are subjective, based upon the desires of those in power at any given time.

And your willful, or ignorant, parroting of the propaganda supports the twin scourges of racism and religious persecution; both battles this nation has fought over, and the world, for centuries and longer.

The facts are, ISIS/ISIL do NOT represent the "Muslim Way" of the world's average individual ascribing to the Islamic - Muslim faiths of the world. In fact, they are looked upon by the average Muslim as the very same murdering zealots the rest of the world sees them as. They do NOT represent the "Muslim Way" in any way shape or form. At least not any more than the above posted Old Testament prescribed punishments / laws represent the worlds average Christian today.

Religion; killing in the name of God since the beginning of time itself.
R.I.P. - followsthewolf - You are MISSED! 4/17/2013

That which fails to kill me. . .should run!

Any "point" made by one that lacks credibility, is only as useful as toilet paper; and serves the same purpose. ~ Palehorse 4/22/2017

May you find charity when it is needed, and the ability to extend it when it is not. ~Palehorse 7/4/2012

To the last, I grapple with thee; From Hell's heart, I stab at thee; For hate's sake, I spit my last breath at thee.~Herman Melville