San Bernardino mass shooting

[Anne]

Could be, I heard on one of the stations they may have had plans to attack another target due to the amount of explosives they found. Maybe he didn't like his secret Santa gift and decided to shoot up the party, went rogue and didn't follow the plan. We may never know. Neighbors said they noticed strange things going on but didn't report it because they didn't want to be considered racist. Now that, imo, is sad.

[Palehorse]

I think it is clear that these two individuals were planning a mission of some sort; whether it was this one or something else is yet to be seen.

Thousands of rounds of ammunition is not in and of itself an indication of this, however, when you include the improvised explosive devices found at the scene of the shooting, within the vehicle, and his home, it is fairly clear. This was not in all likelihood the intended target.

A US Citizen that married in Saudi Arabia a woman from Pakistan is not in and of itself an indictment. However, his documented association with known radicalized Islamists both in Saudi Arabia and here within the states serves to infer the fact that the whole marriage was intended as an effective form of camouflage surrounding the planned initiative; perhaps even with the intent of her being an active participant even before the marriage. The attempted destruction of all hard drives, and erasure of all e-mails just prior to yesterdays murders shows they were not alone in this. They had handlers.

These sleeper cells are patient, taking a lot of time to gather the necessary supplies, plan out the execution upon the target, and then carefully choosing the right time. There have been a lot of incidents wherein the individuals were caught beforehand, or in the execution of an act of terrorism, simply because they failed to contain their enthusiasm and remain patient; simply going off outside of the plan and in the view of their handlers failing. And it is highly likely this is exactly what transpired in this case.

You have a radicalized Muslim couple, one of which works daily with individuals of all faiths and religions, that simply lost his cool and decided he was going to take out these infidels he has been hiding amongst for 5 years.

The key fact, if this turns out to be the reality of what transpired yesterday, is that rarely do these sleeper cells not share the same objective with one or more additional cells. Redundancy is typical of such planning, and in reality there may be one of more others, unknown to each other, still planning to execute the original objective sometime in the near future.

The two that died had been amassing supplies for some time. They had built multiple bombs and had the components to construct IED's in their home; so clearly their preparations were unfinished. They had a remote detonation device improvised that was similar in construction to that used by the Boston Bombers at the shooting site, and the remote was found in the vehicle. (The bomb in the facility they shot up, and it was hot).

If they got that far along in preparing for this plan, exactly how far along in the planning preparations are any other cells? And what could be the potential target(s) they were planning to hit?

You can bet your ass they are out there. This pretty much proves it in my eyes. 

[me]

Could be, I heard on one of the stations they may have had plans to attack another target due to the amount of explosives they found. Maybe he didn't like his secret Santa gift and decided to shoot up the party, went rogue and didn't follow the plan. We may never know. Neighbors said they noticed strange things going on but didn't report it because they didn't want to be considered racist. Now that, imo, is sad.

Unfortunately that's what happens now with all this politically correct crap going on. What some forget, or don't know, is that a Muslim can make out to be a Christian, or non Muslim, to achieve the end goal if they need to. The people who call those who don't agree with the Muslium ways don't know the difference between a race and a religion either. You are not racist if you disagree with the Muslium ways.

[Palehorse]

Unfortunately that's what happens now with all this politically correct crap going on. What some forget, or don't know, is that a Muslim can make out to be a Christian, or non Muslium, to achieve the end goal if they need to. The people who call those who don't agree with the Muslium ways don't know the difference between a race and a religion either. You are not racist if you disagree with the Muslium ways.

Your post exemplifies the ignorance that is feeding the racism this situation is driving. Exactly, what are "Muslim Ways"? (Can you say religious persecution?)

Are you aware that their religious documents parallel old testament teachings of the christian bible? Moreover, they also believe in Jesus. . .

(Post 40000)

[Purplelady1040]

Unfortunately that's what happens now with all this politically correct crap going on. What some forget, or don't know, is that a Muslim can make out to be a Christian, or non Muslium, to achieve the end goal if they need to. The people who call those who don't agree with the Muslium ways don't know the difference between a race and a religion either. You are not racist if you disagree with the Muslium ways.

Muslim. If you are going to write about them, at least spell the name right.

[Purplelady1040]

Your post exemplifies the ignorance that is feeding the racism this situation is driving. Exactly, what are "Muslim Ways"? (Can you say religious persecution?)

Are you aware that their religious documents parallel old testament teachings of the christian bible? Moreover, they also believe in Jesus. . .

(Post 40000)

Exactly, the Muslim's believe in Jesus and always have!

[me]

Muslim. If you are going to write about them, at least spell the name right.

Typo due to big fingers. I Love the personal attacks when ya'll know I'm right.

[me]

Your post exemplifies the ignorance that is feeding the racism this situation is driving. Exactly, what are "Muslim Ways"? (Can you say religious persecution?)

Are you aware that their religious documents parallel old testament teachings of the christian bible? Moreover, they also believe in Jesus. . .

(Post 40000)

Example. How is my post feeding racism?

[Purplelady1040]

Typo due to big fingers. I Love the personal attacks when ya'll know I'm right.

You aren't right but continue blessing us with your ignorance.

[me]

You aren't right but continue blessing us with your ignorance.

When you're ready to discuss the issues rather than do a character attack I'll be back.

[Purplelady1040]

When you're ready to discuss the issues rather than do a character attack I'll be back.

When you decide to discuss issues instead of showing us how stupid you are, I will be here. You don't ever discuss any issues, that is what makes you the laughingstock around here.

[me]

When you decide to discuss issues instead of showing us how stupid you are, I will be here. You don't ever discuss any issues, that is what makes you the laughingstock around here.

Well you have a good evening. I'm not Troll and I won't get in a pissing match with you and call names back and forth 'cause it's just plain childish.

[Purplelady1040]

Well you have a good evening. I'm not Troll and I won't get in a pissing match with you and call names back and forth 'cause it's just plain childish.

That's because you never have anything of substance to come up with. Even Troll makes his points in discussions more interesting than you ever did or will.

[Bo D]

That's because you never have anything of substance to come up with. Even Troll makes his points in discussions more interesting than you ever did or will.

I don't know ... I think this post is interesting in that it's absolutely insane ...

Are you talking Jewish, the race, or Muslim, the religion? A lot of people think if a person is a jew they are Muslim. Not saying you do but it is sometimes what some people assume. They could possibly be like that woman in the video I posted, former Muslims. There is also a difference there.

[Purplelady1040]

I don't know ... I think this post is interesting in that it's absolutely insane ...

A little.insanity is a good thing at times. Lol.
I find it amazing that people want to bash Muslims. There are several in our area and they are some of the hardest working people I know. Deeply religious to their religion but they aren't what I call fanatics.