For The Record:

[Henry Hawk]

And for clarity's sake surrounding my intentions: I have already admitted that the singular purpose of this thread is to establish your expectations of a sitting POTUS, and then should the conservative republicans take the office in the next election, hold them to that very same set of expectations. And just that. Now, how you interpret that as bashing is beyond me. . . It has nothing to do with you, and a lot with teaching a lesson. . .

Okay, here is my take on this.  Bashing is perhaps a wrong word to use.  But saying it has NOTHING to do with me is BS.  It seems to me as if you are making it a personal attack when you decide to use my name as the voice of conservatives.

I would like to point out, YOU were no different when you attacked Bush on several incidents and referred to him as Shrub and was completely disrespectful because you simply did not like him.

I do not like Obama.  I have been VERY clear to explain my EXACT reasons WHY I don't like him.  When I do, I get the same crap that I am a racist.  That is when I quit discussing it. 

Y is one that cannot get past racism for anyone's reason to not liking Obama.  Same with Ex.

I am not the voice of conservatism, the republican party, the tea party or the GOP.

I am the voice of Hank.  I have my own way of thinking what is best for this Nation.  I didn't always agree with Bush, Mitt or Newt or who-ever it may be.......but I agree with several different people who lean to the right.

I have decided, that I will not engage in discussions when it becomes personal.  With the "i can't fix stupid" comments and such.  Being derogatory toward me will end my conversation.  I know I have fallen into the trap of lowering myself down to Ex's level on many occasions, and I don't like myself afterwards.

The deal is, I like the way Locutus described this place as the little bar or coffee shop where friends meet up to fix the worlds problems.   I like most of the people on here, and I do take it personal when you guys make personal statements........Ex knows EXACTLY what I am talking about.

So if in the future you truly want my opinion on something, be respectful to me and I will talk all day long.  That is the way I would want to be treated in a coffee shop and I (in real life) always treat people with the utmost respect. I am STILL going to continue as I do, and leave my thoughts on here, and if whoever wants to respond can do whoever they want. 

I merely asking you (PH) and few others on here to treat me as a friend, because I truly think of you that way.

Btw, I have no problem with you keeping track of what I say.  If YOU think you are teaching me a lesson, then do it.  Maybe you will, but I truly doubt it.

[Exterminator]

It seems to me as if you are making it a personal attack...

Same with Ex....

I know I have fallen into the trap of lowering myself down to Ex's level on many occasions, and I don't like myself afterwards...

Ex knows EXACTLY what I am talking about.

Aw, you feel like you are being personally attacked?  Poor baby.  Do you need a tampon?

[Henry Hawk]

Do you need a tampon?

Nope

[The Troll]

  You say you want to be treated like a friend.    The is no way you could be my friend.      First of all I like my friend to be smart and Bunky you are not smart in anyway.     You are a joke and don't know shit about anything.         What a Buffoon! 

[Palehorse]

Hey HH, I have an idea.  Lets just go along with this BS and agree with everything this administration like good little these good little sheeple just because he's black so we won't be called racist and all of their other "pet" names.  You know people don't dare disagree with this administration since they're perfect and know all the answers.  I mean the general public is really dumb and we all need the government to take care of us so we might as well get on the bandwagon so we can be rich and have all those freebies like they think, oops I mean, they know they're gonna get if this administration could only have it's way.

Now who is attempting to drag this onto the playground? Humm? 

As I said before, I just want to establish what the conservative expectations of a sitting POTUS are. . . In YOUR own words. So apparently you feel slighted because I have not thus far included your words within this topic; but fear not, for they will be included whenever you post something lucid enough. . .

[Henry Hawk]

  You say you want to be treated like a friend.    The is no way you could be my friend.

I clearly said (PH) and few others on here, so don't get your panties all stuck up your crawl.....

[Palehorse]

Okay, here is my take on this.  Bashing is perhaps a wrong word to use.  But saying it has NOTHING to do with me is BS.  It seems to me as if you are making it a personal attack when you decide to use my name as the voice of conservatives.

When you purport to represent the conservative viewpoint, are you not assuming the point of the spear position in the message? When you parrot the propaganda of a particular viewpoint, are you not assuming a position of support of same?

I would like to point out, YOU were no different when you attacked Bush on several incidents and referred to him as Shrub and was completely disrespectful because you simply did not like him.

"Mission Accomplished", and yet here we sit over a decade later and the mission is STILL not accomplished. . . (Enough said).

[Palehorse]

Okay Hank, here's a path we can all live with, that will avoid the stigma you profess will result from my quoting of postings that I feel are representative of your expectations of a sitting POTUS. (IE "The Conservative Expectations").

You and "Me" can both choose to take on an assignment to list those expectations, and beneath each provide specific examples surrounding how the President of the United States of America (current) has not met those expectations.

Post this in one document (complete), one from each, you and me, and I will ask the administration of this place to lock the topic and take out any extemporary notations / postings that may transpire in between.

Make no mistake, I am going to construct a list of expectations in your own words, from all of you, for the aforementioned purpose, one way or another. So. . .the ball is in your court. 

You can do this easily within a word document, offline. Then once it is complete to your satisfaction, you can copy and paste it to a posting in the forum. (I do this all of the time so I know how easy it is).

You have until 1DEC2014 to complete said assignment.

Acceptance can only be signaled via a posting in this topic stating you accept. (My posting of examples will continue unless acceptance is posted by each party).

Failure to meet the deadline of 1DEC2014, after acceptance, will result in inclusion of any/all postings by either of you that exemplify the subject matter of this topic.

[me]

I am not in school and am not your student so can forget what appears to be a losing proposition no matter what is said.  I will not participate in this game but will continue to give  my opinion as I see it on other parts of the forum. 

[Palehorse]

I am not in school and am not your student so can forget what appears to be a losing proposition no matter what is said.  I will not participate in this game but will continue to give  my opinion as I see it on other parts of the forum.

So, that would be a "no" then? (No surprise there!)

[Exterminator]

You and "Me" can both choose to take on an assignment to list those expectations, and beneath each provide specific examples surrounding how the President of the United States of America (current) has not met those expectations.

I expect you'll get as much input from this as we do when we ask them to prove their hatred of the POTUS isn't rooted in racism by providing examples of the "policies" they claim to disagree with and why.

[Exterminator]

I am not in school and am not your student so can forget what appears to be a losing proposition no matter what is said.  I will not participate in this game but will continue to give  my opinion as I see it on other parts of the forum.

Oh, look; I'm clairvoyant!   

[Palehorse]

Oh, look; I'm clairvoyant!   

[Henry Hawk]

This is YOUR experiment.  I'm not wasting anytime whatsoever on this.  Do what you want. I say what I say and I stand behind it.  You can copy and paste or do what ever, I really don't care.   If I say something I regret, big f'ing deal. 

I already stated my rules of engagement.  Its up to you.

[me]

I expect you'll get as much input from this as we do when we ask them to prove their hatred of the POTUS isn't rooted in racism by providing examples of the "policies" they claim to disagree with and why.

The only reason you say that is because you distinguish a difference where I don't making you the racist one IMO.  His being a mixed race has nothing to do with my dislike of his policies anymore than my dislike of Hillary or Pelosi have anything to do with the fact that they are women. Obama would be an elitist even if he were all white and I still wouldn't like him.