For The Record:

[Palehorse]

Just so we all have this straight, Hanks views on the powers of the POTUS consist of:

I'm sure they didn't want to create anarchy in Ferguson, but they DID jump the gun, and brought much more national attention on this than what was necessary.

They didn't need to say anything.........at least until ALL OF THE EVIDENCE was in.  More bad leadership.

1. The POTUS has the power and responsibility to act ONLY after all evidence is reviewed and a jury/judge has reached a verdict. S/he should in no way act to ensure the "life, liberty, and pursuit of happiness" guaranteed by the US Constitution at the local level under any circumstances.

2. When congress refuses to act upon an issue that is key to the future of the nation and it's citizens, S/he has the the responsibility to pander to those members of congress opposing the necessary legislation, in order to demonstrate "leadership". S/he should in no way utilize executive power, nor the executive order process under any circumstances.

(Purpose of this thread: To establish exactly just what the expectations are of a sitting POTUS according to Hank. That way, in the unlikely event a conservative republican wins the next presidential election, we can all be sure to hold that POTUS to the very same expectations ol'Hank now holds the current POTUS to).

[Henry Hawk]

That all good, but don't put words in my mouth I never said.

Let's be clear, I am using Ferguson for what it is, not a generality.  He sent our AG to a funeral for a guy that was high, stole cigars from a store, assaulted the owner, then attacked a  police officer.

THAT, is what our POTUS did.

If you want to keep records, lets not make up shit and make things into something I didn't say.

[Henry Hawk]

and where and when did I attack the POTUS for his executive orders?

[Palehorse]

and where and when did I attack the POTUS for his executive orders?

Do you not hold the very same opinion of his latest executive order surrounding immigration, as those whom you parrot endlessly herein? (Or has hell frozen over and he has done something you agree with?)

[Palehorse]

That all good, but don't put words in my mouth I never said.

Let's be clear, I am using Ferguson for what it is, not a generality.  He sent our AG to a funeral for a guy that was high, stole cigars from a store, assaulted the owner, then attacked a  police officer.

THAT, is what our POTUS did.

If you want to keep records, lets not make up shit and make things into something I didn't say.

So then be clear when you answer this; What would you have said had he done nothing to quell the ongoing violence at that time?

[Henry Hawk]

Do you not hold the very same opinion of his latest executive order surrounding immigration, as those whom you parrot endlessly herein? (Or has hell frozen over and he has done something you agree with?)

So you are starting a thread, and specifically using my name as the center of an attacked based upon YOUR speculation of what I MIGHT say?  wtf?

[Henry Hawk]

Do you not hold the very same opinion of his latest executive order surrounding immigration, as those whom you parrot endlessly herein? (Or has hell frozen over and he has done something you agree with?)

I haven't shared my opinion on this issue on here.  Though, I have no problem sharing the fact I don't think this POTUS is a good one, because I think he is a very, very poor leader.  I want to be clear on that.

So, go ahead and bash me.  Make a thread and use my thoughts and opinions so you can use them against me at a later date....I okay with that.  I stand behind my posts with pride.

[Palehorse]

So you are starting a thread, and specifically using my name as the center of an attacked based upon YOUR speculation of what I MIGHT say?  wtf?

My intention is to use your words to document your expectations of a sitting POTUS. YOUR words.

Feel free to clarify or spin whatever you feel I misinterpret along the way; but if you do not then the silence will be assumed acceptance.

Now, back to your current tact- - -

If by sending the attorney general to Ferguson you assume that action to be wrongful, then why exactly is it wrong if you do not expect the POTUS to do nothing in such instances?

And again:

Do you not hold the very same opinion of his latest executive order surrounding immigration, as those whom you parrot endlessly herein? (Or has hell frozen over and he has done something you agree with?)

And again:

So then be clear when you answer this; What would you have said had he done nothing to quell the ongoing violence at that time?

(The questions are piling up and the people demand answers.)

I haven't shared my opinion on this issue on here.  Though, I have no problem sharing the fact I don't think this POTUS is a good one, because I think he is a very, very poor leader.  I want to be clear on that.

So, go ahead and bash me.  Make a thread and use my thoughts and opinions so you can use them against me at a later date....I okay with that.  I stand behind my posts with pride.

I will remind you that the rule is, clarify or spin; silence = acceptance.

And for clarity's sake surrounding my intentions: I have already admitted that the singular purpose of this thread is to establish your expectations of a sitting POTUS, and then should the conservative republicans take the office in the next election, hold them to that very same set of expectations. And just that. Now, how you interpret that as bashing is beyond me. . . It has nothing to do with you, and a lot with teaching a lesson. . .

[Palehorse]

Here's a comment that alludes to exactly what my interpretation of  your opinion of the executive order on immigration is:

No caterwauling here.......it is what it is.  Just waiting for this whole fiasco to end.  No need to argue about.

The above commentary being made due to the fact the conservative republicans now hold a majority in congress, and evidence of an internal expectation that congress will undo whatever this order implements. . . (Being held by Hank)

[Palehorse]

And here's the response to the Killing of OBL :

It was 2 1/2 years into the Obama admin before it was finally done.  To think that all the intelligence that was put into place surrounding al-Qaeda  during the Bush Admin had a great deal of credit for the eventual finding of Osama.........and for Obama to sit back and spike the football over it is exactly what most people would expect out of him.

And a response to the head of the CDC stating that there would have been a vaccine for Ebola had the budget cuts not prevented it:

Here we go!  Troll, this just clearly political bullshit, with the elections coming up, and the democrats are doing their normal scare tactics....it is the most pathetic bullshit.

And the response when it was pointed out the head of the CDC had made that statement:

Well fuck yeah the man said it, he was HIRED by the Obama Administration........of course he is willing to pass the buck.......THAT is what this administration does the best....Pass the buck and point fingers....they couldn't be accountable for their own actions if their life depended upon it....this is another classic example of crooked liberal politics. and their FAILED LEADERSHIP ABILITIES!!!

And before you begin spewing about the executive order on immigration, remember what you said here:
( Funny how the conservatives did nothing about it even when presented with a bill!)

They have had majority control in the House and Senate since 06.  I know you know that.

You also know damn well, without me going into "specifics" that we are NOT better off. 

According to Forbes.....we have had "The Worst Five Years Since the Great Depression"

The Middle East is exploding...
More on Food Stamps...
Immigration is a disaster...

I really don't need to go on, but the facts are in..........we are NOT better off with Democrat Controlled politics.

It really is indeed time for some REAL .... Hope & Change.

[Y]

Good luck, PH!

Don't worry ole' Hank will either ignore it, spin it, or outright fib about it.

I mean how many times have I nailed his hide to the wall here - Take No Prisoners © - Y's Arena - and yet he STILL trots out all those old oft refuted 'opinions' just like clockwork.   

[The Troll]

Good luck, PH!

Don't worry ole' Hank will either ignore it, spin it, or outright fib about it.

I mean how many times have I nailed his hide to the wall here - Take No Prisoners © - Y's Arena - and yet he STILL trots out all those old oft refuted 'opinions' just like clockwork.   

  Old dumbass Hawk must get Republican talking points every morning.     This is the only thing he can say everyday is the Republican talking points.    

  Everything the man says is wrong and I have proved it over and over again.     It goes to show that The Hawk doesn't know shit about anything.   

[me]

Hey HH, I have an idea.  Lets just go along with this BS and agree with everything this administration like good little these good little sheeple just because he's black so we won't be called racist and all of their other "pet" names.  You know people don't dare disagree with this administration since they're perfect and know all the answers.  I mean the general public is really dumb and we all need the government to take care of us so we might as well get on the bandwagon so we can be rich and have all those freebies like they think, oops I mean, they know they're gonna get if this administration could only have it's way. 

[Henry Hawk]

Hey HH, I have an idea.  Lets just go along with this BS and agree with everything this administration like good little these good little sheeple just because he's black so we won't be called racist and all of their other "pet" names.  You know people don't dare disagree with this administration since they're perfect and know all the answers.  I mean the general public is really dumb and we all need the government to take care of us so we might as well get on the bandwagon so we can be rich and have all those freebies like they think, oops I mean, they know they're gonna get if this administration could only have it's way. 

We should but I am simply am not going to waste any time nor will I lower myself down to their level.  I have nothing to defend, rather I will just continue to speak my mind and stand firm on my beliefs.  It is easy to get consumed with all the liberal be on here and since you and I are the only constant voice of reason we just need to keep plugging along a take the high road.

[me]

We should but I am simply am not going to waste any time nor will I lower myself down to their level.  I have nothing to defend, rather I will just continue to speak my mind and stand firm on my beliefs.  It is easy to get consumed with all the liberal be on here and since you and I are the only constant voice of reason we just need to keep plugging along a take the high road.

Ya, you're right.  I am amused at times about how gullible they really are though.  I think all that double speak this administration uses is what confuses them.