Hobby Lobby Et AL - Decision

[Sandy Eggo]

There are still 16 methods available to them including birth control pills.

Your point? Maybe those methods aren't right for someone for whatever reason? Medically or personal choice? What gives the company the right to deny the choice of contraception?

If someone claims to be anti-choice when it comes to abortion, then logically they'd be pro contraception.

No one has ever accused the conservative stance on anything to be logical though.

[Sandy Eggo]

Sandy, I think he is wrong. A cancer will never grow and be able to live outside of a host, a fetus will. That, IMO, makes the difference. I have already stated my views on abortion,so I won't get into that again. I think some people are missing the point HL is making. They don't think the four types of "contraception" they objected to are preventing conception, but are in fact abortions which they object to.

He wasn't speaking to "eventually". He was speaking to the viability at the time the procedure is performed.

You don't have to restate your opinion on abortion, because it isn't relevant to anyone except you. As my opinions on abortion are only relevant to me. That's the way it's supposed to be.

[Henry Hawk]

What gives the company the right to deny the choice of contraception?

They are NOT denying anyone, ANYTHING.......that person can STILL do WHATEVER they want, buy WHATEVER they want.........HL, just doesn't believe THEY should have to pay for it.

These people can work for another company that DOES cover those items.  HL pays pretty good wages for the type of work.........they need to take that into factor.

THAT IS THE LOGICAL STANCE...

[Exterminator]

93% of Hobby Lobby's inventory comes from China where there have been 336 million abortions in the past 30 years.

[Henry Hawk]

The last time I checked........we are STILL a free country.  We do not have to agree on issues.....The bottom line is, you don't like Hobby Lobby don't go there and buy from them.

But the SCOTUS got it 100% right...........if a Muslim family wants to do the same thing and employee people with understanding of what they are getting into when they take the job, then good for them.  If I don't like people praying to Allah while I work, I won't work there.

It is all pretty simple, it really is.

[Exterminator]

The last time I checked........we are STILL a free country.  We do not have to agree on issues.....The bottom line is, you don't like Hobby Lobby don't go there and buy from them.

I don't.

But the SCOTUS got it 100% right...

You should preface this with, "in my opinion," since you could fit all of your knowledge of constitutional law in a thimble.

[Henry Hawk]

I don't.

See how easy that works....

[Sandy Eggo]

They are NOT denying anyone, ANYTHING.......that person can STILL do WHATEVER they want, buy WHATEVER they want.........HL, just doesn't believe THEY should have to pay for it.

These people can work for another company that DOES cover those items.  HL pays pretty good wages for the type of work.........they need to take that into factor.

THAT IS THE LOGICAL STANCE...

Do you EVER read what you type or think about it? The survey says...no.

[me]

The company insurance never furnished those particular methods before so what's the big deal now? 

[The Troll]

Do you EVER read what you type or think about it? The survey says...no.

  The narrow minded and brain dead Christians are always crying      about war on the church.    What the hell about the war on women and their rights, Numbnuts.   

[me]

  The narrow minded and brain dead Christians are always crying      about war on the church.    What the hell about the war on women and their rights, Numbnuts.   

No one said they couldn't pay for it themselves so what's yer problem.  Where's the law that say's women have a right to birth control? 

[The Troll]

No one said they couldn't pay for it themselves so what's yer problem.  Where's the law that say's women have a right to birth control?

  Look One Cell Brain.    Since you are beyond, way beyond child bearing age.     What damn business of yours what these women get in insurance benefits.   

  I don't know what damn turnip truck you got off, most companies insurance benefits are pay in lieu of raises in wages.  So One Cell, these women are paying for their insurance.  What don't you understand about that, Ding Dong.    Angry because there are so many nib shits and stupid Republican people in this country. 

[Henry Hawk]

bottom line is this;

You lost;get over it...

Justice wins...

[The Troll]

bottom line is this;

You lost;get over it...

Justice wins...

  Obama won two terms and you assholes haven't got over it.      And every day you assholes try to make things worse in this country because of your hate for Obama.  You stupid assholes.    Your assholes make $175,000 a year and they have done a thing to make thing better. 

[Henry Hawk]

Dems control the Senate and the White House.............a little compromise is all it takes to get whatever a good leader would want.  The problem is he doesn't want to negotiate.

Enough of the Republicans say no BULLSHIT......MAYBE, JUST MAYBE, if they would NOT say no, if the WH was willing to negotiate.

It takes leadership.  We are lacking in leadership.

A good leader could go to the American public and convince them to pressure their reps into doing what they want done.


Clinton did it....
Reagan did it perfectly.

Quit looking for excuses when the obvious answer is RIGHT there in front of your faces.

There is a reason as to why Obama is dropping in the polls.  Lack of leadership.  PERIOD.