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Started by Locutus, June 29, 2014, 06:20:04 PM

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Exterminator

Quote from: Anne on July 07, 2014, 03:27:46 PM
To answer that question I would have to know how their investment plan works. If it is handled by a firm and HL doesn't pick the individual companies that their money is invested in then they may not have known which companies their plan owned stock in or what they produced. Our investment plan went into a low/moderate risk fund that had stock in multiple companies that changed frequently.

There are many plans and funds available who base their investment decisions on religious principles and would therefore not include investments in such companies.  That they willingly choose to ignore those options only underscores their hypocrisy.
Arguing with Christians is like playing chess with a pigeon.  No matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock over the pieces, shit on the board and strut around like it's victorious.

The truth is slow, but relentless. Over time it becomes irresistible.

Henry Hawk


Hobby Lobby did what legal experts told them they had the best chance of winning.....they have to chose their battles.

I think this explains it best locutus.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/jeffreybrown/2014/07/02/is-hobby-lobby-hypocritical-or-just-complying-with-u-s-pension-law/
"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."
Ecclesiastes 10:2 - It all makes sense to me now...


"The future ain't what it used to be."– Yogi Berra

"Square roots are rarely found on any plant." FTW

Palehorse

Quote from: Henry Hawk on July 07, 2014, 04:14:32 PM
Hobby Lobby did what legal experts told them they had the best chance of winning.....they have to chose their battles.

I think this explains it best locutus.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/jeffreybrown/2014/07/02/is-hobby-lobby-hypocritical-or-just-complying-with-u-s-pension-law/
They have to choose what is best for their bottom line. THAT is all that matters to them, for they care not for those that toil for their sweat shop wages.
Quote from: Exterminator on July 07, 2014, 10:41:21 AM
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I think you're missing the bigger point about the can of worms this opens up when other religions impose their views on their employees which is now sanctioned by the Supreme Court.

Indeed Ex. Indeed!  :yes:
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That which fails to kill me. . .should run!

Any "point" made by one that lacks credibility, is only as useful as toilet paper; and serves the same purpose. ~ Palehorse 4/22/2017

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Palehorse

What do you call a company that admits to killing 13 people over the span of a year? GM. What do you call a person doing that? An inmate on death row.

If they are both individuals why do they both not reside on death row?
R.I.P. - followsthewolf - You are MISSED! 4/17/2013

That which fails to kill me. . .should run!

Any "point" made by one that lacks credibility, is only as useful as toilet paper; and serves the same purpose. ~ Palehorse 4/22/2017

May you find charity when it is needed, and the ability to extend it when it is not. ~Palehorse 7/4/2012

To the last, I grapple with thee; From Hell's heart, I stab at thee; For hate's sake, I spit my last breath at thee.~Herman Melville

Palehorse

And it begins. . .

Lawyers for Guantanamo Bay detainees have filed motions asking U.S. courts to stop officials from barring the inmates from participating in communal prayers during Ramadan, claiming their rights are protected under the Religious Freedom Restoration Act and citing the recent Supreme Court Hobby Lobby ruling in their defense, reports Al Jazeera America.. . .

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/jul/6/gitmo-detainees-seek-right-celebrate-ramadan-cite-/

How long before a corporation held by an extremist group of Muslims imposes Sharia Law upon its employees?
R.I.P. - followsthewolf - You are MISSED! 4/17/2013

That which fails to kill me. . .should run!

Any "point" made by one that lacks credibility, is only as useful as toilet paper; and serves the same purpose. ~ Palehorse 4/22/2017

May you find charity when it is needed, and the ability to extend it when it is not. ~Palehorse 7/4/2012

To the last, I grapple with thee; From Hell's heart, I stab at thee; For hate's sake, I spit my last breath at thee.~Herman Melville

The Troll

Quote from: Palehorse on July 07, 2014, 07:32:26 PM
And it begins. . .

Lawyers for Guantanamo Bay detainees have filed motions asking U.S. courts to stop officials from barring the inmates from participating in communal prayers during Ramadan, claiming their rights are protected under the Religious Freedom Restoration Act and citing the recent Supreme Court Hobby Lobby ruling in their defense, reports Al Jazeera America.. . .

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/jul/6/gitmo-detainees-seek-right-celebrate-ramadan-cite-/

How long before a corporation held by an extremist group of Muslims imposes Sharia Law upon its employees?

  :haha:  :haha:  I hope it happens.   :yes:  Then we will see what the shit heads of The Supreme Court do about it.   :biggrin:  It really needs to happen.   :wink: :biggrin:

me

Quote from: Palehorse on July 07, 2014, 07:32:26 PM
And it begins. . .

Lawyers for Guantanamo Bay detainees have filed motions asking U.S. courts to stop officials from barring the inmates from participating in communal prayers during Ramadan, claiming their rights are protected under the Religious Freedom Restoration Act and citing the recent Supreme Court Hobby Lobby ruling in their defense, reports Al Jazeera America.. . .

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/jul/6/gitmo-detainees-seek-right-celebrate-ramadan-cite-/

How long before a corporation held by an extremist group of Muslims imposes Sharia Law upon its employees?
How long would it be before they had no employees? 
Trump 2020

Henry Hawk

Quote from: Palehorse on July 07, 2014, 07:32:26 PM
And it begins. . .

Lawyers for Guantanamo Bay detainees have filed motions asking U.S. courts to stop officials from barring the inmates from participating in communal prayers during Ramadan, claiming their rights are protected under the Religious Freedom Restoration Act and citing the recent Supreme Court Hobby Lobby ruling in their defense, reports Al Jazeera America.. . .

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/jul/6/gitmo-detainees-seek-right-celebrate-ramadan-cite-/

How long before a corporation held by an extremist group of Muslims imposes Sharia Law upon its employees?

Are you ACTUALLY trying to make the comparison of Hobby Lobby and International Terrorists?   You actually believe that?  You believe that cold blooded, murdering terrorists should have the same rights as law abiding, tax paying American citizens?

Sorry pal, but they gave up all rights when they became incarcerated..........again, I claim that common sense seems to have missed the democrat platformed fairy boat.

"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."
Ecclesiastes 10:2 - It all makes sense to me now...


"The future ain't what it used to be."– Yogi Berra

"Square roots are rarely found on any plant." FTW

Exterminator

For those that missed the joke earlier, I am providing a link!  Wahhabi Lobby...   :biggrin:
Arguing with Christians is like playing chess with a pigeon.  No matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock over the pieces, shit on the board and strut around like it's victorious.

The truth is slow, but relentless. Over time it becomes irresistible.

Exterminator

Quote from: Henry Hawk on July 08, 2014, 07:54:51 AM
Are you ACTUALLY trying to make the comparison of Hobby Lobby and International Terrorists?   You actually believe that?  You believe that cold blooded, murdering terrorists should have the same rights as law abiding, tax paying American citizens?

First of all, if these people are, as you claim, international terrorists, why haven't they been charged?  Secondly, Christians have killed far more people throughout history than Muslims ever thought about.  Why aren't you considered a terrorist, especially when your beliefs so closely align with theirs?

QuoteSorry pal, but they gave up all rights when they became incarcerated...

Again, no; they lose their rights when they are convicted of a crime.

Quote...again, I claim that common sense seems to have missed the democrat platformed fairy boat.

I'll bet when you look in the mirror, you think you're handsome, too; huh?  :rolleyes:
Arguing with Christians is like playing chess with a pigeon.  No matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock over the pieces, shit on the board and strut around like it's victorious.

The truth is slow, but relentless. Over time it becomes irresistible.

Henry Hawk

Quote from: Exterminator on July 08, 2014, 08:13:17 AM
For those that missed the joke earlier, I am providing a link!  Wahhabi Lobby...   :biggrin:

Nobody missed it........It wasn't THAT funny the first time..........THAT is why nobody responded. :rolleyes:
"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."
Ecclesiastes 10:2 - It all makes sense to me now...


"The future ain't what it used to be."– Yogi Berra

"Square roots are rarely found on any plant." FTW

Exterminator

Quote from: Henry Hawk on July 08, 2014, 08:47:07 AM
Nobody missed it........It wasn't THAT funny the first time..........THAT is why nobody responded. :rolleyes:

Like you had any clue what Wahhabi is...   :rolleyes:
Arguing with Christians is like playing chess with a pigeon.  No matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock over the pieces, shit on the board and strut around like it's victorious.

The truth is slow, but relentless. Over time it becomes irresistible.

Henry Hawk

Quote from: Exterminator on July 08, 2014, 09:35:05 AM
Like you had any clue what Wahhabi is...   :rolleyes:

I learned about that in elementary school in my Salafi 101 class.......duh.
"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."
Ecclesiastes 10:2 - It all makes sense to me now...


"The future ain't what it used to be."– Yogi Berra

"Square roots are rarely found on any plant." FTW

Exterminator

Quote from: Henry Hawk on July 08, 2014, 10:07:45 AM
I learned about that in elementary school in my Salafi 101 class.......duh.

Oops, sorry!  I had completely forgotten the Anderson schools' focus on diversity!   :biggrin:
Arguing with Christians is like playing chess with a pigeon.  No matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock over the pieces, shit on the board and strut around like it's victorious.

The truth is slow, but relentless. Over time it becomes irresistible.

Palehorse

Quote from: me on July 07, 2014, 09:58:15 PM
How long would it be before they had no employees?

You jackwagons won't give people unemployment, have cut public assistance to the bare bones, and refuse to give to the local food pantries; so if they want to eat, they have to work. If they want to work, there are only those kinds of places to work at. . . In many areas, even if you have a 4 year college degree and graduated cum laude, these sweat shops are the only choice out there. Unless you want to walk away from your home and move to another state.
R.I.P. - followsthewolf - You are MISSED! 4/17/2013

That which fails to kill me. . .should run!

Any "point" made by one that lacks credibility, is only as useful as toilet paper; and serves the same purpose. ~ Palehorse 4/22/2017

May you find charity when it is needed, and the ability to extend it when it is not. ~Palehorse 7/4/2012

To the last, I grapple with thee; From Hell's heart, I stab at thee; For hate's sake, I spit my last breath at thee.~Herman Melville