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U.S. intervention in Syria

Started by Locutus, August 27, 2013, 07:38:01 PM

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Locutus

Quote from: Henry Hawk on August 29, 2013, 08:00:50 AM
First of all, I am not stating that there IS any proof, just posting what somebody who was in a position TO know stated.  I think it is interesting.

Secondly Saddam was a nutjob, and who knows what his plans were.........so if getting them out of his country was his best option to hide them, then why not?  It is amazing that nearly ALL of our congress including Clinton SAID, without a doubt that Saddam DID have WMD's...there was NO mistake, he HAD them.  If that is true, then where did they go?

If you'll see the posts above, even if he had them and was inclined to move them out of the country, there's virtually ZERO percent chance they would have gone to Syria. 

Have you looked at the news this morning?  The Iranians are saying that Israel will go up in flames if the US attacks Syria.  Why pray tell would they say that?  Well, that's because they're Syria's ally.  Now if you'll remember history for a bit, Iraq used mustard gas and nerve gas on the Iranians during the Iran/Iraq war.

Are you and 'me' even remotely suggesting that he would have slipped chemical weapons into Syria, who may have in turn given them to the Iranians, who may in turn have used them on him?  As I said before, that's simply beyond ridiculous.

One of the gravest dangers to the survival of our republic is an ignorant electorate routinely feeding at the trough of propaganda.   -- Locutus

"We are all connected; To each other, biologically. To the earth, chemically. To the rest of the universe atomically."  -- Dr. Neil deGrasse Tyson

Locutus

Now here's an even bigger issue:

WASHINGTON (AP) — The intelligence linking Syrian President Bashar Assad or his inner circle to an alleged chemical weapons attack that killed at least 100 people is no "slam dunk," with questions remaining about who actually controls some of Syria's chemical weapons stores and doubts about whether Assad himself ordered the strike, U.S. intelligence officials say.

...

However, multiple U.S. officials used the phrase "not a slam dunk" to describe the intelligence picture — a reference to then-CIA Director George Tenet's insistence in 2002 that U.S. intelligence showing Iraq had weapons of mass destruction was a "slam dunk" — intelligence that turned out to be wrong.


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One of the gravest dangers to the survival of our republic is an ignorant electorate routinely feeding at the trough of propaganda.   -- Locutus

"We are all connected; To each other, biologically. To the earth, chemically. To the rest of the universe atomically."  -- Dr. Neil deGrasse Tyson

Locutus

^^  If that's indeed the case, this is looking less and less like a good idea.
One of the gravest dangers to the survival of our republic is an ignorant electorate routinely feeding at the trough of propaganda.   -- Locutus

"We are all connected; To each other, biologically. To the earth, chemically. To the rest of the universe atomically."  -- Dr. Neil deGrasse Tyson

Locutus

Quote from: me on August 28, 2013, 06:00:30 PM
You're probably right since our borders to the south are so secure and nothing can be sneaked in via that route.  Besides, what do they have against us anyway?  Ya, it's silly to worry about those people. 

Border security is a completely different story.  In case you're unaware, any American military strikes aren't going to target those chemical weapons anyway for the reasons stated in the article I just posted.  So we're not trying to get rid of them.

So that clearly fails to answer this question which some of the Republicans are beginning to ask, including John Boehner. 

The letter, which was sent Wednesday afternoon, urges Obama to "make the case to the American people and Congress for how potential military action will secure American national security interests, preserve America's credibility, deter the future use of chemical weapons, and, critically, be a part of our broader policy and strategy."

So if he doesn't know, and I don't know, I'm quite certain that you don't have a clue either.

Again, how is the use of those weapons in Syria a challenge to, or a threat to, the national security of this country?
One of the gravest dangers to the survival of our republic is an ignorant electorate routinely feeding at the trough of propaganda.   -- Locutus

"We are all connected; To each other, biologically. To the earth, chemically. To the rest of the universe atomically."  -- Dr. Neil deGrasse Tyson

Exterminator

Quote from: Locutus on August 29, 2013, 11:16:17 AM
Are you and 'me' even remotely suggesting that he would have slipped chemical weapons into Syria, who may have in turn given them to the Iranians, who may in turn have used them on him?  As I said before, that's simply beyond ridiculous.

No fair using logic.
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Palehorse

And, the Brits are fanning the flames of war with their "intelligence"  much as they did with Iraq.

This is awful familiar, and I hope this POTUS doesn't fall into their trap!
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Exterminator

Arguing with Christians is like playing chess with a pigeon.  No matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock over the pieces, shit on the board and strut around like it's victorious.

The truth is slow, but relentless. Over time it becomes irresistible.

Palehorse

And I see Rummy is spewing again.  I expect that the Brits will launch first, Syria will blame the US, and Iran will pound Israel in order to bait us into the mess. . .
R.I.P. - followsthewolf - You are MISSED! 4/17/2013

That which fails to kill me. . .should run!

Any "point" made by one that lacks credibility, is only as useful as toilet paper; and serves the same purpose. ~ Palehorse 4/22/2017

May you find charity when it is needed, and the ability to extend it when it is not. ~Palehorse 7/4/2012

To the last, I grapple with thee; From Hell's heart, I stab at thee; For hate's sake, I spit my last breath at thee.~Herman Melville

Exterminator

Quote from: Palehorse on August 29, 2013, 12:26:59 PM
And I see Rummy is spewing again.  I expect that the Brits will launch first, Syria will blame the US, and Iran will pound Israel in order to bait us into the mess. . .

If Iran makes a move against Israel, Israel will nuke them without blinking an eye.
Arguing with Christians is like playing chess with a pigeon.  No matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock over the pieces, shit on the board and strut around like it's victorious.

The truth is slow, but relentless. Over time it becomes irresistible.

Locutus

One of the gravest dangers to the survival of our republic is an ignorant electorate routinely feeding at the trough of propaganda.   -- Locutus

"We are all connected; To each other, biologically. To the earth, chemically. To the rest of the universe atomically."  -- Dr. Neil deGrasse Tyson

Locutus

Well the British are out.  Parliament says no.
One of the gravest dangers to the survival of our republic is an ignorant electorate routinely feeding at the trough of propaganda.   -- Locutus

"We are all connected; To each other, biologically. To the earth, chemically. To the rest of the universe atomically."  -- Dr. Neil deGrasse Tyson

Palehorse

Quote from: Locutus on August 29, 2013, 06:10:18 PM
Well the British are out.  Parliament says no.

. . .Until the UN inspectors come out of there with "evidence" supporting that Syria and its regime used chemical weapons and then attempted to pin it on the rebel forces. . .

Quote from: Exterminator on August 29, 2013, 12:40:55 PM
If Iran makes a move against Israel, Israel will nuke them without blinking an eye.

Perhaps. . . but given that, the Xtians will begin end of days and the emotional uproar will collapse the world as we know it today. . . Anarchy will rule and the conservative blood will pool. . .
R.I.P. - followsthewolf - You are MISSED! 4/17/2013

That which fails to kill me. . .should run!

Any "point" made by one that lacks credibility, is only as useful as toilet paper; and serves the same purpose. ~ Palehorse 4/22/2017

May you find charity when it is needed, and the ability to extend it when it is not. ~Palehorse 7/4/2012

To the last, I grapple with thee; From Hell's heart, I stab at thee; For hate's sake, I spit my last breath at thee.~Herman Melville

Locutus

One of the gravest dangers to the survival of our republic is an ignorant electorate routinely feeding at the trough of propaganda.   -- Locutus

"We are all connected; To each other, biologically. To the earth, chemically. To the rest of the universe atomically."  -- Dr. Neil deGrasse Tyson

Exterminator

Arguing with Christians is like playing chess with a pigeon.  No matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock over the pieces, shit on the board and strut around like it's victorious.

The truth is slow, but relentless. Over time it becomes irresistible.

libby

Quote from: Exterminator on August 30, 2013, 03:22:21 PM
This is a good read.
That is indeed a good read! Thanks for posting it. I'm way behind in my reading -- have stacks of the Washington Post paper edition yet to read -- 

All of life is a process of testing and initiation, always preparing for a higher level of consciousness -- and illumination. -- John Horn