U.S. intervention in Syria

[me]

For what it is worth, here is an article written in 2006....

The man who served as the no. 2 official in Saddam Hussein's air force says Iraq moved weapons of mass destruction into Syria before the war by loading the weapons into civilian aircraft in which the passenger seats were removed.
The Iraqi general, Georges Sada, makes the charges in a new book, "Saddam's Secrets," released this week. He detailed the transfers in an interview yesterday with The New York Sun.
"There are weapons of mass destruction gone out from Iraq to Syria, and they must be found and returned to safe hands," Mr. Sada said. "I am confident they were taken over."
Mr. Sada's comments come just more than a month after Israel's top general during Operation Iraqi Freedom, Moshe Yaalon, told the Sun that Saddam "transferred the chemical agents from Iraq to Syria."

http://www.nysun.com/foreign/iraqs-wmd-secreted-in-syria-sada-says/26514/

But HH that can't possibly be true since that would make Bush right and you know that ain't gonna happen. 

[me]

What's the key word in the above post that permeates just about your every post along these lines?

The word "rumor" was used figuratively there.

[Locutus]

For what it is worth, here is an article written in 2006....

The man who served as the no. 2 official in Saddam Hussein's air force says Iraq moved weapons of mass destruction into Syria before the war by loading the weapons into civilian aircraft in which the passenger seats were removed.
The Iraqi general, Georges Sada, makes the charges in a new book, "Saddam's Secrets," released this week. He detailed the transfers in an interview yesterday with The New York Sun.
"There are weapons of mass destruction gone out from Iraq to Syria, and they must be found and returned to safe hands," qMr. Sada said. "I am confident they were taken over."
Mr. Sada's comments come just more than a month after Israel's top general during Operation Iraqi Freedom, Moshe Yaalon, told the Sun that Saddam "transferred the chemical agents from Iraq to Syria."

http://www.nysun.com/foreign/iraqs-wmd-secreted-in-syria-sada-says/26514/

All while there was a no-fly zone in the south, and a no-fly zone in the north, and with the U.S. military watching absolutely every single move Hussein made at that time?  C'mon!  That defies logic. 

[Locutus]

If you're going to imply (and you are ) that they came from Saddam Hussein, I would like for you to explain to me why he would have given chemical weapons to the Syrians, some of which (including Bashar al-Assad) just happen to be minority Shiites, and ergo best buddies with his arch enemy Iran.  Doesn't make any sense.

Either of you are free to address the above.  I'm still waiting. 

[Locutus]

The word "rumor" was used figuratively there.

Right. 

That seems to be all you ever post.   Rumors and innuendo copied from your inbox.

[Exterminator]

For what it is worth, here is an article written in 2006....

The man who served as the no. 2 official in Saddam Hussein's air force says Iraq moved weapons of mass destruction into Syria before the war by loading the weapons into civilian aircraft in which the passenger seats were removed.
The Iraqi general, Georges Sada, makes the charges in a new book, "Saddam's Secrets," released this week. He detailed the transfers in an interview yesterday with The New York Sun.
"There are weapons of mass destruction gone out from Iraq to Syria, and they must be found and returned to safe hands," Mr. Sada said. "I am confident they were taken over."
Mr. Sada's comments come just more than a month after Israel's top general during Operation Iraqi Freedom, Moshe Yaalon, told the Sun that Saddam "transferred the chemical agents from Iraq to Syria."

http://www.nysun.com/foreign/iraqs-wmd-secreted-in-syria-sada-says/26514/

So if Saddam had weapons of mass destruction, did he move them to Syria so that he could save them for something bigger than a full scale invasion of his country by an overwhelming force?  Do you ever stop to actually think about how ridiculous something you're about to post may sound before you post it?

[me]

All while there was a no-fly zone in the south, and a no-fly zone in the north, and with the U.S. military watching absolutely every single move Hussein made at that time?  C'mon!  That defies logic.

Do you not remember the elaborate tunnels that were found and never fully explored?  Do you not remember seeing trucks heading to Syria?  Of course you don't 'cause it doesn't fit your programming.

[Locutus]

Although a rehashing of the Iraq war wasn't the intent of this thread, there are two cogent points that have yet to be addressed.

1.

If you're going to imply (and you are ) that they came from Saddam Hussein, I would like for you to explain to me why he would have given chemical weapons to the Syrians, some of which (including Bashar al-Assad) just happen to be minority Shiites, and ergo best buddies with his arch enemy Iran.  Doesn't make any sense.

2.

So if Saddam had weapons of mass destruction, did he move them to Syria so that he could save them for something bigger than a full scale invasion of his country by an overwhelming force?  Do you ever stop to actually think about how ridiculous something you're about to post may sound before you post it?

So I'm still awaiting an answer.

1. If Hussein had the desire and did dispose of the weapons, why give them to an ally of the Iranians?

2. As Ex pointed out, he was faced with an invasion of his country by an overwhelming force.  Why would he dump something that would be a logical deterrent to that invasion, especially by giving them to an ally of his staunchest enemy?

Please address those points. 

[Locutus]

Do you not remember the elaborate tunnels that were found and never fully explored?  Do you not remember seeing trucks heading to Syria?  Of course you don't 'cause it doesn't fit your programming.

So the U.S. military let trucks containing chemical weapons cross the border into Syria unnoticed?  That doesn't make any sense and defies logic as do the other two points stated above.

[Locutus]

Furthermore, the following is a quote from Jay Carney.

"Allowing the use of chemical weapons on a significant scale to take place without a response would present a significant challenge to, threat to, the United States' national security."

As Palehorse duly noted in the second post on this thread, this sounds amazingly like the drums that were being beaten prior to the Iraq war.

How is the use of those weapons in Syria a challenge to, or a threat to, the national security of this country? 

Do you two Bobbsey Twins see the difference here in how we think as opposed to how you think?  I'm raising almost the exact same questions of the Obama administration in this regard as I asked of the Bush administration prior to Iraq.  There's a difference between critical thinking and posting bullshit that shows up on World Nut Daily or happens to land in your inbox. 

[me]

Furthermore, the following is a quote from Jay Carney.

"Allowing the use of chemical weapons on a significant scale to take place without a response would present a significant challenge to, threat to, the United States' national security."

As Palehorse duly noted in the second post on this thread, this sounds amazingly like the drums that were being beaten prior to the Iraq war.

How is the use of those weapons in Syria a challenge to, or a threat to, the national security of this country? 

Do you two Bobbsey Twins see the difference here in how we think as opposed to how you think?  I'm raising almost the exact same questions of the Obama administration in this regard as I asked of the Bush administration prior to Iraq.  There's a difference between critical thinking and posting bullshit that shows up on World Nut Daily or happens to land in your inbox. 

You're probably right since our borders to the south are so secure and nothing can be sneaked in via that route.  Besides, what do they have against us anyway?  Ya, it's silly to worry about those people. 

[Henry Hawk]

So if Saddam had weapons of mass destruction, did he move them to Syria so that he could save them for something bigger than a full scale invasion of his country by an overwhelming force?  Do you ever stop to actually think about how ridiculous something you're about to post may sound before you post it?

First of all, I am not stating that there IS any proof, just posting what somebody who was in a position TO know stated.  I think it is interesting.

Secondly Saddam was a nutjob, and who knows what his plans were.........so if getting them out of his country was his best option to hide them, then why not?  It is amazing that nearly ALL of our congress including Clinton SAID, without a doubt that Saddam DID have WMD's...there was NO mistake, he HAD them.  If that is true, then where did they go?

[Exterminator]

First of all, I am not stating that there IS any proof, just posting what somebody who was in a position TO know stated.  I think it is interesting.

Secondly Saddam was a nutjob, and who knows what his plans were.........so if getting them out of his country was his best option to hide them, then why not?  It is amazing that nearly ALL of our congress including Clinton SAID, without a doubt that Saddam DID have WMD's...there was NO mistake, he HAD them.  If that is true, then where did they go?

This has all previously been discussed here and all of these questions answered.  The question that hasn't been answered is, "do you ever stop to actually think about how ridiculous something you're about to post may sound before you post it?"

[Henry Hawk]

This has all previously been discussed here and all of these questions answered.  The question that hasn't been answered is, "do you ever stop to actually think about how ridiculous something you're about to post may sound before you post it?"

uh....Bullshit!

[Exterminator]

uh....Bullshit!

Now, isn't just typing the word a lot easier than typing several sentences that amount to nothing more anyway?