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Started by RC, February 21, 2013, 12:15:15 PM

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RC

What happened to all the bad stuff obama said would happen?

me

Quote from: me on March 08, 2013, 09:37:40 AM
I just wonder if GE's CEO who is buddy buddy with Obama, in fact he's the head of the council on jobs, moved jobs overseas and paid NO taxes this year and FB CEO who is also buddy buddy with Obama and paid NO taxes this year are included in the list of people these guys hate.  Oh, and on a side note GE was the recipent of some of that stimulus money too. 

http://www.celebritynetworth.com/richest-businessmen/ceos/jeffrey-immelt-net-worth/

http://voices.yahoo.com/obamas-pick-jeffrey-immelt-proves-cronyism-and-7678752.html

http://theview.abc.go.com/forum/facebook-makes-billion-dollar-profit-yet-pays-no-taxes
Trump 2020

Palehorse

Quote from: Palehorse on March 08, 2013, 12:14:30 PM
I would remind everyone here that congress passed the sequester. . .

Quote from: Palehorse on March 08, 2013, 12:33:00 PM
The same idiots that did this:

A CNN analysis of thousands of pages of Congressional expense reports shows that in the months leading up to the fiscal cliff (and potential, sharp budget cuts), nearly a quarter of the lawmakers in the House of Representatives gave their own office staff bonuses. . .

hat money is itemized as "Other Compensation" in the more than 2000-page report.

Only a handful of members of Congress gave us statements defended the bonuses last quarter. Rep. Mike Thompson, D-CA, wrote, "have a hard working, dedicated team... and I want to pay a salary that reflects their service."

He said he only gives bonuses if there is "money left over" at the end of the year.

Rep. Mario Diaz-Balart, R-FL, responded, "The small compensation reflects an increased workload each person had to take on after our staff was downsized because of budgetary cuts."

Similarly, Rep. Dennis Ross, R-FL insisted that the bonuses allowed him to save money. "I believe performance-based pay is an important incentive in the workplace... Also, in the past year we've reduced our staff... The bonuses are to reward those remaining for taking on additional duties," he said . . .


http://cnnradio.cnn.com/2013/03/08/congressional-bonuses-in-a-time-of-cuts/?hpt=hp_t3

So, while they may have cut staff levels, they increased the salaries of those remaining; in direct conflict with their supposed desire to "cut" the spending mantra. . . And surprisingly (not) in direct conflict with what happens in the business world when such things happen; increased workload, no raises, and longer hours.  :rant:
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Henry Hawk

Trollin, trollin, trollin..........keep them doggies trollin..............
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Bo D

Quote from: Henry Hawk on March 08, 2013, 12:57:30 PM
Trollin, trollin, trollin..........keep them doggies trollin..............

Stating the facts is trolling?
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me

Quote from: me on March 08, 2013, 09:37:40 AM
I just wonder if GE's CEO who is buddy buddy with Obama, in fact he's the head of the council on jobs, moved jobs overseas and paid NO taxes this year and FB CEO who is also buddy buddy with Obama and paid NO taxes this year are included in the list of people these guys hate.  Oh, and on a side note GE was the recipent of some of that stimulus money too. 

http://www.celebritynetworth.com/richest-businessmen/ceos/jeffrey-immelt-net-worth/

http://voices.yahoo.com/obamas-pick-jeffrey-immelt-proves-cronyism-and-7678752.html

http://theview.abc.go.com/forum/facebook-makes-billion-dollar-profit-yet-pays-no-taxes
Trump 2020

The Troll

Quote from: me on March 08, 2013, 01:52:28 PM


  This rich Clown didn't pay any taxes under your Moron George W. Bush either.  So what are you trying too saying Clarabell.   :confused: :wink:

Palehorse

Quote from: Olias on March 08, 2013, 01:02:27 PM
Stating the facts is trolling?

Of course it is. Facts do not nest nicely within their world view.  :rolleyes:
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Any "point" made by one that lacks credibility, is only as useful as toilet paper; and serves the same purpose. ~ Palehorse 4/22/2017

May you find charity when it is needed, and the ability to extend it when it is not. ~Palehorse 7/4/2012

To the last, I grapple with thee; From Hell's heart, I stab at thee; For hate's sake, I spit my last breath at thee.~Herman Melville

Sandy Eggo

Quote from: Palehorse on February 25, 2013, 01:04:20 PM
Yes.

You know, I wish I could buy a gallon of milk for 10 cents, a gallon of gas for 15 cents, and prime cut beef for a nickel a pound, but those days are gone. They have been gone and to expect them to return and to be able to provide sustenance to my family on a budget created 70 years ago is unrealistic. Same goes for government.

Yes it may be historically high, but so are our responsibilities, our population, our infrastructure, and the costs.

You guys are bitching about the price of eggs and killing the chickens.

I just told you that the current sequester will result in 11,000 jobs being eliminated in civilian military support positions in this state alone. Education funding will instantly drop by 13.8 million in this state. And as you are so fond of pointing out, the "trickle down" impact of these losses alone will multiply the job losses exponentially, resulting in even more job losses, foreclosures, and yes, homelessness; and that is just within this state. Multiply that by 50 and see what you get.

Eliminate unemployment compensation beyond 26 weeks and you fast track the homeless aspect of this insidious path the GOP is hell-bent for leather upon forcing us down.


I just want to add (and maybe it was covered in your description of the "trickle down effect)", but they're not considering the negative impact of the ripple effect to the economy as nearly 2 million federal employees plan for furlough. I think I heard a figure of 880,000 federal employees, but I could be wrong. They're not buying. They were told a month ago not to purchase homes, cars, big ticket items. They were told to save as much as they possibly can until the furlough takes effect. Most will not be eligible for unemployment because of the way the furloughs are structured so that they only lose two days a pay period. While it's not as devistating as losing a job, it will cause problems with meeting financial obligations for quite a few. I suspect some may be able to find part time jobs, but w/the large numbers of employees being impacted in concentrated areas...good luck. :no:
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Sandy Eggo

Quote from: RC on March 08, 2013, 12:34:01 PM
What happened to all the bad stuff obama said would happen?

Are you really that stupid? or are you just looking for a reaction? Seriously, if you can't see the impact then you're obviously not paying attention.
Only after the last tree has been cut down. Only after the last river has been poisoned. Only after the last fish has been caught. Only then will you find that money cannot be eaten. - -Cree Indian Prophecy

"Women who strive to be equal to men lack ambitition" -- anonymous

Palehorse

Quote from: Sandy Eggo on March 10, 2013, 09:08:50 PM
I just want to add (and maybe it was covered in your description of the "trickle down effect)", but they're not considering the negative impact of the ripple effect to the economy as nearly 2 million federal employees plan for furlough. I think I heard a figure of 880,000 federal employees, but I could be wrong. They're not buying. They were told a month ago not to purchase homes, cars, big ticket items. They were told to save as much as they possibly can until the furlough takes effect. Most will not be eligible for unemployment because of the way the furloughs are structured so that they only lose two days a pay period. While it's not as devistating as losing a job, it will cause problems with meeting financial obligations for quite a few. I suspect some may be able to find part time jobs, but w/the large numbers of employees being impacted in concentrated areas...good luck. :no:

Yup! Some of the folks around here seem to think its no big deal to get a friggin job these days. They are wrong, of course but then either they've grown fat and sassy in their current role, taking it for granted, or they do not really want/need a job in the first place. Either way they are completely out of touch with the reality that is the job market today. They're going to require Devine intervention when reality comes to backhand them across the chops though.  :yes:

And if they got their way there would be millions more out of work, and homelessness would be 1000 times worse than it is at the moment.  :spooked:
R.I.P. - followsthewolf - You are MISSED! 4/17/2013

That which fails to kill me. . .should run!

Any "point" made by one that lacks credibility, is only as useful as toilet paper; and serves the same purpose. ~ Palehorse 4/22/2017

May you find charity when it is needed, and the ability to extend it when it is not. ~Palehorse 7/4/2012

To the last, I grapple with thee; From Hell's heart, I stab at thee; For hate's sake, I spit my last breath at thee.~Herman Melville

me

Quote from: Sandy Eggo on March 10, 2013, 09:08:50 PM
I just want to add (and maybe it was covered in your description of the "trickle down effect)", but they're not considering the negative impact of the ripple effect to the economy as nearly 2 million federal employees plan for furlough. I think I heard a figure of 880,000 federal employees, but I could be wrong. They're not buying. They were told a month ago not to purchase homes, cars, big ticket items. They were told to save as much as they possibly can until the furlough takes effect. Most will not be eligible for unemployment because of the way the furloughs are structured so that they only lose two days a pay period. While it's not as devistating as losing a job, it will cause problems with meeting financial obligations for quite a few. I suspect some may be able to find part time jobs, but w/the large numbers of employees being impacted in concentrated areas...good luck. :no:
All this over only 2%?  Damn, Obama better give up golf and vacationing then huh?
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Sandy Eggo

Quote from: me on March 10, 2013, 09:58:42 PM
All this over only 2%?  Damn, Obama better give up golf and vacationing then huh?

^ Gets my vote for the most uniformed post of the decade.
Only after the last tree has been cut down. Only after the last river has been poisoned. Only after the last fish has been caught. Only then will you find that money cannot be eaten. - -Cree Indian Prophecy

"Women who strive to be equal to men lack ambitition" -- anonymous

me

Quote from: Sandy Eggo on March 10, 2013, 10:01:16 PM
^ Gets my vote for the most uniformed post of the decade.
First part true second sarcastic.  Now all this will come to pass if they don't come to some sort of agreement when it's that time again in about 2 weeks.  Personally I think, even though it would be a huge mistake and make things a whole lot worse, they should give Obama his way and let him sink with it.
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The Troll

Quote from: me on March 10, 2013, 09:58:42 PM
All this over only 2%?  Damn, Obama better give up golf and vacationing then huh?

  Why should he, George W. Bush the king loser of losers sure didn't did he.   :no:  More sour grapes from England Sweetie Tootie.   :rolleyes: