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Started by RC, February 21, 2013, 12:15:15 PM

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Exterminator

Quote from: Henry Hawk on March 05, 2013, 04:27:52 PM
I guess that is why I am asking you, what is YOUR resolution to this income disparity?

We've been telling you our multi-faceted approach all along...even taxes on all income, elimination of loopholes for the rich, living minimum wage, etc., etc., etc.
Arguing with Christians is like playing chess with a pigeon.  No matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock over the pieces, shit on the board and strut around like it's victorious.

The truth is slow, but relentless. Over time it becomes irresistible.

Exterminator

Arguing with Christians is like playing chess with a pigeon.  No matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock over the pieces, shit on the board and strut around like it's victorious.

The truth is slow, but relentless. Over time it becomes irresistible.

The Troll

Quote from: Henry Hawk on February 22, 2013, 11:30:40 AM
Rand Paul, for the second year has given money BACK to the US Treasury for unspent money for his operating costs.  Last year he gave back $500,000 and this year he gave back $600,000.  He also said, that if the federal wages was lined up with the private sector, it would save the tax payers $50 billion.
THAT is the type of LEADERSHIP we need in Washington.

  I'll bet that John Boner and Turtle Head McConnell aren't give any money back.  :haha:  :haha: 

  Henry, you say that you caught Obama in a bald face lie.   :confused:  Maybe if you Republicans wouldn't lie and try to scare  people, Obama would stop lying.  :doh:

  Republican stop :stop: lying?   :haha:     :haha:    :haha:     HOW THAT'S BULLSHIT AND SPIN.   :biggrin:

Henry Hawk

Quote from: Locutus on March 05, 2013, 08:19:17 PM

"From everyone who has been given much, much will be demanded; and from the one who has been entrusted with much, much more will be asked."    --- Luke 12:48 (NIV)


This only works if it is from "free-will"...and NOT enforced by Washington.

I'm also not saying something needs to be done........getting our economy back in full force would do wonders about broadening our middle-class.....
We need to "drill, baby drill"...."frack, baby frack"...utilize our resources, create millions of jobs.
"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."
Ecclesiastes 10:2 - It all makes sense to me now...


"The future ain't what it used to be."– Yogi Berra

"Square roots are rarely found on any plant." FTW

Locutus

Quote from: Henry Hawk on March 06, 2013, 07:59:26 AM
This only works if it is from "free-will"...and NOT enforced by Washington.

I'm also not saying something needs to be done........getting our economy back in full force would do wonders about broadening our middle-class.....
We need to "drill, baby drill"...."frack, baby frack"...utilize our resources, create millions of jobs.


Do you think it's working now, or are the top 1-2% influencing lawmakers to pass laws that continue to keep them at an advantage, and so more money flows into their pockets?   Is it fair that those people pay less of a percentage on their annual income taxes than you do?  Warren Buffett doesn't think so.  Do you?

What's wrong with what Exterminator said right here?

Quote from: Exterminator on March 05, 2013, 09:30:50 PM
We've been telling you our multi-faceted approach all along...even taxes on all income, elimination of loopholes for the rich, living minimum wage, etc., etc., etc.
One of the gravest dangers to the survival of our republic is an ignorant electorate routinely feeding at the trough of propaganda.   -- Locutus

"We are all connected; To each other, biologically. To the earth, chemically. To the rest of the universe atomically."  -- Dr. Neil deGrasse Tyson

Palehorse

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Locutus

Thanks for the bump PH.  HH hasn't answered my question yet.  ;D
One of the gravest dangers to the survival of our republic is an ignorant electorate routinely feeding at the trough of propaganda.   -- Locutus

"We are all connected; To each other, biologically. To the earth, chemically. To the rest of the universe atomically."  -- Dr. Neil deGrasse Tyson

Palehorse

Quote from: Locutus on March 07, 2013, 08:33:07 PM
Thanks for the bump PH.  HH hasn't answered my question yet.  ;D

Good luck with that.

In addition 170+ air traffic control towers are closing, and another 90 or so will follow those in 6 months. Moreover, airports are being asked to justify control towers beyond those already slated for closure.

If the company you work for imports parts get ready for massive delays to delivery. Same for exporting.
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That which fails to kill me. . .should run!

Any "point" made by one that lacks credibility, is only as useful as toilet paper; and serves the same purpose. ~ Palehorse 4/22/2017

May you find charity when it is needed, and the ability to extend it when it is not. ~Palehorse 7/4/2012

To the last, I grapple with thee; From Hell's heart, I stab at thee; For hate's sake, I spit my last breath at thee.~Herman Melville

me

And just why is he threatening cuts of that nature rather than non essential cuts like uniforms for airport security, money to send to other countries, WH collegraphers, and those created buddy buddy jobs for the brown nosers and suck ups. He's been caught in so many lies about this sequester he's becoming a laughing stock as well as are those who try to defend him.  Of course you probably aren't seeing any of that on your lame stream media.
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The Troll

Quote from: me on March 07, 2013, 09:31:22 PM


  Of course you probably aren't seeing any of that on your lame stream media.



  I know I won't see that on your news network Fox News.   :razz:

Palehorse

Quote from: Locutus on March 06, 2013, 11:32:51 AM

Do you think it's working now, or are the top 1-2% influencing lawmakers to pass laws that continue to keep them at an advantage, and so more money flows into their pockets?   Is it fair that those people pay less of a percentage on their annual income taxes than you do?  Warren Buffett doesn't think so.  Do you?

What's wrong with what Exterminator said right here?

Bump
R.I.P. - followsthewolf - You are MISSED! 4/17/2013

That which fails to kill me. . .should run!

Any "point" made by one that lacks credibility, is only as useful as toilet paper; and serves the same purpose. ~ Palehorse 4/22/2017

May you find charity when it is needed, and the ability to extend it when it is not. ~Palehorse 7/4/2012

To the last, I grapple with thee; From Hell's heart, I stab at thee; For hate's sake, I spit my last breath at thee.~Herman Melville

Henry Hawk

Quote from: Locutus on March 06, 2013, 11:32:51 AM

Do you think it's working now, or are the top 1-2% influencing lawmakers to pass laws that continue to keep them at an advantage, and so more money flows into their pockets?   Is it fair that those people pay less of a percentage on their annual income taxes than you do?  Warren Buffett doesn't think so.  Do you?

My only response is that the top 25% of the wage earners of this country pay 86% of all the federal income.  They also are the ones who give GENEROUSLY to charities.  They are the ones who supply jobs.  I don't HATE these guys at all...I think we need to encourage them to spend, instead of CONSTANTLY demonizing them and trying to get MORE and MORE from them...they already raised their taxes and a month later, they want MORE....we already have one of the highest corporate tax rates in the world.  Why not lower that rate for those business that are exclusively doing work HERE in the USA? 
"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."
Ecclesiastes 10:2 - It all makes sense to me now...


"The future ain't what it used to be."– Yogi Berra

"Square roots are rarely found on any plant." FTW

me

Quote from: Henry Hawk on March 08, 2013, 09:20:10 AM
My only response is that the top 25% of the wage earners of this country pay 86% of all the federal income.  They also are the ones who give GENEROUSLY to charities.  They are the ones who supply jobs.  I don't HATE these guys at all...I think we need to encourage them to spend, instead of CONSTANTLY demonizing them and trying to get MORE and MORE from them...they already raised their taxes and a month later, they want MORE....we already have one of the highest corporate tax rates in the world.  Why not lower that rate for those business that are exclusively doing work HERE in the USA?
I just wonder if GE's CEO who is buddy buddy with Obama, in fact he's the head of the council on jobs, moved jobs overseas and paid NO taxes this year and FB CEO who is also buddy buddy with Obama and paid NO taxes this year are included in the list of people these guys hate.  Oh, and on a side note GE was the recipent of some of that stimulus money too. 

http://www.celebritynetworth.com/richest-businessmen/ceos/jeffrey-immelt-net-worth/

http://voices.yahoo.com/obamas-pick-jeffrey-immelt-proves-cronyism-and-7678752.html

http://theview.abc.go.com/forum/facebook-makes-billion-dollar-profit-yet-pays-no-taxes

Trump 2020

Palehorse

I would remind everyone here that congress passed the sequester. . .
R.I.P. - followsthewolf - You are MISSED! 4/17/2013

That which fails to kill me. . .should run!

Any "point" made by one that lacks credibility, is only as useful as toilet paper; and serves the same purpose. ~ Palehorse 4/22/2017

May you find charity when it is needed, and the ability to extend it when it is not. ~Palehorse 7/4/2012

To the last, I grapple with thee; From Hell's heart, I stab at thee; For hate's sake, I spit my last breath at thee.~Herman Melville

Palehorse

The same idiots that did this:

A CNN analysis of thousands of pages of Congressional expense reports shows that in the months leading up to the fiscal cliff (and potential, sharp budget cuts), nearly a quarter of the lawmakers in the House of Representatives gave their own office staff bonuses. . .

hat money is itemized as "Other Compensation" in the more than 2000-page report.

Only a handful of members of Congress gave us statements defended the bonuses last quarter. Rep. Mike Thompson, D-CA, wrote, "have a hard working, dedicated team... and I want to pay a salary that reflects their service."

He said he only gives bonuses if there is "money left over" at the end of the year.

Rep. Mario Diaz-Balart, R-FL, responded, "The small compensation reflects an increased workload each person had to take on after our staff was downsized because of budgetary cuts."

Similarly, Rep. Dennis Ross, R-FL insisted that the bonuses allowed him to save money. "I believe performance-based pay is an important incentive in the workplace... Also, in the past year we've reduced our staff... The bonuses are to reward those remaining for taking on additional duties," he said . . .


http://cnnradio.cnn.com/2013/03/08/congressional-bonuses-in-a-time-of-cuts/?hpt=hp_t3

So, while they may have cut staff levels, they increased the salaries of those remaining; in direct conflict with their supposed desire to "cut" the spending mantra. . . And surprisingly (not) in direct conflict with what happens in the business world when such things happen; increased workload, no raises, and longer hours.  :rant:
R.I.P. - followsthewolf - You are MISSED! 4/17/2013

That which fails to kill me. . .should run!

Any "point" made by one that lacks credibility, is only as useful as toilet paper; and serves the same purpose. ~ Palehorse 4/22/2017

May you find charity when it is needed, and the ability to extend it when it is not. ~Palehorse 7/4/2012

To the last, I grapple with thee; From Hell's heart, I stab at thee; For hate's sake, I spit my last breath at thee.~Herman Melville